2017-2018 Draft Prospects watch.

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Chriss is showing signs he wants to be a part of the Suns core as well. If he steps forward, the Suns timetable moves up.

If he steps up next year it is one less position we have a hole at. Then between a rookie and a vet we would have to fill starting PG and center. Makes the outlook on next season a lot brighter.

 

[SirStefan32]

Doncic seems to have a Dragic like demeanor. He's got a drive to win and is competitive but he's able to manage it well. He reminds me of a bigger and better version of Goran in what I've seen from him so far. We could do worse than drafting Doncic but I still don't see him as a long term NBA PG. I suspect we'd have a year or two before needing to choose which 2 we want to keep, between Doncic, Booker, and Jackson, and with how good Jackson has looked toward the end of this season I think it's best if we avoid that altogether by selecting a big instead of Doncic. Either a big or Trae Young. Booker and Jackson are our core going forward, Young would compliment their games and Ayton would fit with them, so would Bagley and Bamba, but Porter and Doncic may struggle to fit with those 2. I don't see Porter being a PF, not as a rookie, at least.

Oh he is a point guard, but even if he were not, you don't have to make that choice. Play JJ as a Draymond Green-type 4, Doncic as a 3, Booker as a 2, and add a point guard. That gives you three players who can run the point, and another one who can pass and generate some offense. If Bender were to pull his head out of his behind and get some confidence, you could end up with four and a half point guards in one lineup.

 

[Mainstreet]

If he steps up next year it is one less position we have a hole at. Then between a rookie and a vet we would have to fill starting PG and center. Makes the outlook on next season a lot brighter.

It would be a huge development. The Suns needs will become easier to fill.

 

[pokerface]

Oh he is a point guard, but even if he were not, you don't have to make that choice. Play JJ as a Draymond Green-type 4, Doncic as a 3, Booker as a 2, and add a point guard. That gives you three players who can run the point, and another one who can pass and generate some offense. If Bender were to pull his head out of his behind and get some confidence, you could end up with four and a half point guards in one lineup.

The good thing about Doncic is his size and skill set. You can plug him in anywhere in the backcourt with a certain degree of confidence. It's great he's a scorer with a creative passing component to his game.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Oh he is a point guard, but even if he were not, you don't have to make that choice. Play JJ as a Draymond Green-type 4, Doncic as a 3, Booker as a 2, and add a point guard. That gives you three players who can run the point, and another one who can pass and generate some offense. If Bender were to pull his head out of his behind and get some confidence, you could end up with four and a half point guards in one lineup.

I’m not sure JJ has Draymond 4 in him... he’d have to get a lot better hitting the 3 in O as the stretch and his body type doesn’t lend to the bang Draymond can give bigger bigs.

Not to mention that you can’t just add any PG to hope to approximate the Warriors. And I.T can’t just be a good PG. Curry is the straw that stirs that drink... unless you’ve got a Durant... who none of our guys are or would be with Donicic.

 

[Praxis]

Yeah, let's play JJ out of position at PF and plug in a 19 year old Euro wing to play PG. What could go wrong?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Yeah, let's play JJ out of position at PF and plug in a 19 year old Euro wing point guard to play PG.

FTFY

 

[Praxis]

FTFY

No, you're just a fool.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

No, you're just a fool.

The almighty Praxis has spoken so it must be so...

 

[SirStefan32]

No, you're just a fool.

Well, that's a well thought-out argument.

 

[Praxis]

Well, that's a well thought-out argument.

I've outlined my argument before. He's close to his ceiling right now. He's a wing with limited athleticism, average handles, and poor defense. He plays off the ball in EuroLeague and his 3P% is way down this year. Not sure why people are in love with this guy.

 

[pokerface]

I've outlined my argument before. He's close to his ceiling right now. He's a wing with limited athleticism, average handles, and poor defense. He plays off the ball in EuroLeague and his 3P% is way down this year. Not sure why people are in love with this guy.

Sounds like Nash to me.

 

[Praxis]

Sounds like Nash to me.

Wow, too many morons on this board. I won't be back.

 

[Hoop Head]

No 18 year old pro is close to their ceiling as a player.

 

[pokerface]

Wow, too many morons on this board. I won't be back.

Doncic seems like Nash....a shooter/passer...relies on his smarts....unathletic...poor defense.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I've outlined my argument before. He's close to his ceiling right now. He's a wing with limited athleticism, average handles, and poor defense. He plays off the ball in EuroLeague and his 3P% is way down this year. Not sure why people are in love with this guy.

Don't ask me. I agree with you.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I've outlined my argument before. He's close to his ceiling right now. He's a wing with limited athleticism, average handles, and poor defense. He plays off the ball in EuroLeague and his 3P% is way down this year. Not sure why people are in love with this guy.

None of us know if he is close to his ceiling or not until we see how much he continues to develop. He is a point guard and not a wing and even guards plenty of smaller guards as well. His athleticism certainly isn't a strength, but it also isn't a weakness either as he is a decent athlete. He actually has very good handles and is a very solid defender in Euroleague. He won't necessarily lock guys up one on one, but he holds his own and plays very good team defense. His 3p% is down and that should be a bit of a concern, but he has a strong work ethic and a good stroke and thus I am not too worried about his shooting.

The reason why some of us love him so much is for the reasons I just listed, but for a few other reasons as well. He is very competitive, is absolutely in love with the game of basketball and is an incredibly hard worker off the court. His BBIQ is also extremely high and will not make many mistakes on either end of the court. And he has all of that at just 19 years old. Clearly you disagree with a lot of what I just said, but that is what I see and why I like him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Wow, too many morons on this board. I won't be back.

Cmon. There are several of us who are not fans of Doncic. Its funny, we have these weird situations where we agree on some things and disagree on others. Cheese hate McD, I still kind of like the guy. But we both agree that Doncic is over rated, especially because of his poor shooting.

But we don't call people who disagree with us Morons. Although Cheese has been known to accuse them of smoking stuff.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

No 18 year old pro is close to their ceiling as a player.

I tend to agree with this. They always have more to learn and things to improve on. The only reasons they won't get better from there is injuries or poor work ethic.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Doncic seems like Nash....a shooter/passer...relies on his smarts....unathletic...poor defense.

and Nash was the exception to the rule... which is why he was drafted at 16. Drafting the next exception to the rule with a top 3 pick doesn't seem smart to me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Cmon. There are several of us who are not fans of Doncic. Its funny, we have these weird situations where we agree on some things and disagree on others. Cheese hate McD, I still kind of like the guy. But we both agree that Doncic is over rated, especially because of his poor shooting.

But we don't call people who disagree with us Morons. Although Cheese has been known to accuse them of smoking stuff.

ehem! my go to is usually "drinking drano"...

 

[pokerface]

None of us know if he is close to his ceiling or not until we see how much he continues to develop. He is a point guard and not a wing and even guards plenty of smaller guards as well. His athleticism certainly isn't a strength, but it also isn't a weakness either as he is a decent athlete. He actually has very good handles and is a very solid defender in Euroleague. He won't necessarily lock guys up one on one, but he holds his own and plays very good team defense. His 3p% is down and that should be a bit of a concern, but he has a strong work ethic and a good stroke and thus I am not too worried about his shooting.

The reason why some of us love him so much is for the reasons I just listed, but for a few other reasons as well. He is very competitive, is absolutely in love with the game of basketball and is an incredibly hard worker off the court. His BBIQ is also extremely high and will not make many mistakes on either end of the court. And he has all of that at just 19 years old. Clearly you disagree with a lot of what I just said, but that is what I see and why I like him.

Plus he's more proven playing in the euro league. Not a one and done fella.

 

[pokerface]

and Nash was the exception to the rule... which is why he was drafted at 16. Drafting the next exception to the rule with a top 3 pick doesn't seem smart to me.

If Nash was being drafted in this next draft I suspect most would take Doncic. Nash wasn't even Nash when he first started.

 

[Cheesebeef]

If Nash was being drafted in this next draft I suspect most would take Doncic. Nash wasn't even Nash when he first started.

you completely missed the point.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

you completely missed the point.

I think you may have missed the point. Doncic is a better prospect than Nash was. That is why Doncic is in the discussion for the first pick and Nash was a mid first rounder. They have some similar qualities, but that does not mean that they have to be graded out in the same tier.