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Suns are my Kryptonite!
Tell that to the Eastern Conference!totally disagree. the west isn't stacked... it's as mediocre as it's ever been. It's a bunch of middling teams, all extremely flawed.
Tell that to the Eastern Conference!totally disagree. the west isn't stacked... it's as mediocre as it's ever been. It's a bunch of middling teams, all extremely flawed.
Tell that to the Eastern Conference!
Let them play Golden state for 7 games and get back with me. Hell LA would beat them all in seven.The Eastern Conference has three legit good teams in it,
It's not stacked in the sense that it is full of great teams, but in the sense that it only has one bad team. It is pretty unheard of for a conference to potentially have 14 teams all around .500 or better win percentages.totally disagree. the west isn't stacked... it's as mediocre as it's ever been. It's a bunch of middling teams, all extremely flawed.
Was wanting to see this move.
ArizonaSports.com: Phoenix Suns sign guard Jawun Evans to two-way contract - https://bit.ly/2Uq2oS7
It's not stacked in the sense that it is full of great teams, but in the sense that it only has one bad team. It is pretty unheard of for a conference to potentially have 14 teams all around .500 or better win percentages.
It's not stacked in the sense that it is full of great teams, but in the sense that it only has one bad team. It is pretty unheard of for a conference to potentially have 14 teams all around .500 or better win percentages.
i have a bad feeling about the comments coming out of Jones' mouth about shifting away from the draft and winning with veterans
winning what? another few games this season?
i'm up for moving Ariza and the Milwaukee pick after the 15th
for a stabilizing point guard
or even for the Fultz experiment
but we sucked too hard to give up all that suckage that has earned us another top pick
i don't support giving up that asset for the kind of veteran that would be available right now
--under this organization as it is now constituted
i don't trust the current leadership to make any big move right now
How is he on defense?With the NAZ Suns Evans averaged 18.5 points, 4.6 assists with 3.3 TOV.
https://gleague.nba.com/player/jawun-evans/
How is he on defense?
Here is the thing though, and why I more or less agree with the strategy. Tanking is really no longer rewarded. Teams with the worst record have a much higher chance of getting the 5th pick vs the 1st now. The fifth pick in many drafts turns out to be worthless.
Not to mention the suns have plenty of project players already. Now don't get me wrong if they get the first or second pick and trade it away I am going to be pissed, especially if it is the first and getting Zion.
I actually think if we get the fourth pick or lower, trading it for veterans makes sense. This team more than anything right now needs more NBA caliber players that are ready to play immediately.
Teams have gotten lucky but I don't think tanking has really been rewarded in quite some time. It's why Hinkie's approach was so revolutionary. He didn't tank, he cleared the cupboards so they'd be the bottom dweller and got the ownership group to agree with losing big until they got their stars, no matter how long it took. Tanking has always been a huge gamble but it's like a family trip to Vegas, if your wife lets you double down plus on red until it finally hits, anyone can be a winner at tanking roulette.
But I agree with most of what you say. I'm all for trading the pick but only at the right time and only for the right player. For as long as Zion looks the future of the league and as long as we look like we probably have that 14% chance or greater to get him, I'd keep the pick. It would take a pretty special veteran for me to willingly part with that pick while it still looks primed to hit the top.
Good point. on the other hand the opportunity to have a 14% chance at getting Zion likely has alot of value. That has to be considered.
If you had the number one pick it would be hard to trade but trading the 14% chance for the right player might be worth it?
Absolutely and I should be more clear. I'm just against treating it like your average high pick in your average draft. I think Zion is special, very special and we should treasure even a 14% chance at him. If someone offers us a prime aged star for that pick, it would be tough to turn it down. But I'd lose my lunch (breakfast and dinner too) if we traded it away for an average veteran.
Out of curiosity, who would you say fits those molds, prime aged star and average veteran?
I would think Lillard and Kemba might be the prime aged stars with someone like Jeff Teague or Darren Collison as more of an average veteran. They don't need to be PG's but I think that's what we would be looking for. Outside of Kevin Love I can't think of any PF's on the trade market who would come close to be worth a lottery pick and his play may be close to prime aged star his contract lowers that closer to average veteran.
Here is the thing though, and why I more or less agree with the strategy. Tanking is really no longer rewarded. Teams with the worst record have a much higher chance of getting the 5th pick vs the 1st now. The fifth pick in many drafts turns out to be worthless.
Not to mention the suns have plenty of project players already. Now don't get me wrong if they get the first or second pick and trade it away I am going to be pissed, especially if it is the first and getting Zion.
I actually think if we get the fourth pick or lower, trading it for veterans makes sense. This team more than anything right now needs more NBA caliber players that are ready to play immediately.
Been watching Wall's previous games this season. He looks pretty damn good to me.
Absolutely and I should be more clear. I'm just against treating it like your average high pick in your average draft. I think Zion is special, very special and we should treasure even a 14% chance at him. If someone offers us a prime aged star for that pick, it would be tough to turn it down. But I'd lose my lunch (breakfast and dinner too) if we traded it away for an average veteran.
Been watching Wall's previous games this season. He looks pretty damn good to me.