2019 Draft Prospects...

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

IMO Bamba is a total projection and still is. No way in hell did he deserve to be a "96".

I think Zion, Barrett, and Ja Morant would still be easily top ten picks

1. Williamson
2. Ayton (still think he belongs here)
3. Doncic
4. Young
5. Bagley
6. Jackson
7. Barrett
8. Ja Morant
9. Carter
10....I won't even list Bamba because I don't think he belongs in a top ten of anything....

I think I’m down with that order.

 

[JCSunsfan]

IMO Bamba is a total projection and still is. No way in hell did he deserve to be a "96".

I think Zion, Barrett, and Ja Morant would still be easily top ten picks

1. Williamson
2. Ayton (still think he belongs here)
3. Doncic
4. Young
5. Bagley
6. Jackson
7. Barrett
8. Ja Morant
9. Carter
10....I won't even list Bamba because I don't think he belongs in a top ten of anything....

1. Williamson
2. Doncic
3. Ayton
4. Young
5. Jackson
6. Morant
7. Bagley
8. Barrett
9. Carter

Its tough though. A lot of those players are close.
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[Krangodnzr]

1. Williamson
2. Doncic
3. Ayton
4. Young
5. Jackson
6. Morant
7. Bagley
8. Barrett
9. Carter

Its tough though. A lot of those players are close.
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I still put Ayton ahead of Doncic, because five years from now he will be better IMO.

Ayton is a heavily flawed player, who is averaging figures that Hall of Famers did as rookies. Its scary how good he can be.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I still put Ayton ahead of Doncic, because five years from now he will be better IMO.

Ayton is a heavily flawed player, who is averaging figures that Hall of Famers did as rookies. Its scary how good he can be.

Agreed. I still prefer Ayton, even with his warts. But Doncic will likely forever make this a great debate.

 

[BC867]

Agreed. I still prefer Ayton, even with his warts. But Doncic will likely forever make this a great debate.

Granted, the Suns made a choice. And an obvious one at that in choosing the Center.

But can you ever compare a Center to a Point Guard?

It is like comparing a starting Pitcher to a Center Fielder.

 

[Sunburn]

Granted, the Suns made a choice. And an obvious one at that in choosing the Center.

But can you ever compare a Center to a Point Guard?

It is like comparing a starting Pitcher to a Center Fielder.

I think so. I think you can say one player is more impactful than another, even if they play different positions.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Granted, the Suns made a choice. And an obvious one at that in choosing the Center.

But can you ever compare a Center to a Point Guard?

It is like comparing a starting Pitcher to a Center Fielder.

Of course you can. They both impact a game. Who impacts it more? Pretty sure I can easily say that magic was better than laimbeer even though they were a pg and center, respectively. Even taking a better center, Magic was better than Ewing.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think so. I think you can say one player is more impactful than another, even if they play different positions.

Haha. Beat me to it.

 

[slinslin]

I think Darius Bazley is an interesting prospect for our #32 pick.

Top highschool prospect that did not play college ball, potentially a modern PF. Just have to make sure you dont need him in the rotation and can develop him in the dleague.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I think Darius Bazley is an interesting prospect for our #32 pick.

Top highschool prospect that did not play college ball, potentially a modern PF. Just have to make sure you dont need him in the rotation and can develop him in the dleague.

This is where we need to be from here on. Outside of drafting Zion this year we shouldn't expect our rookies to be huge contributors in year 1 for the foreseeable future. If we end up with Garland, Morant, Bol Bol, etc. we should draft them with the intent of having a solid veteran in front of them until they are ready to be a major factor.

 

[taz02]

This is where we need to be from here on. Outside of drafting Zion this year we shouldn't expect our rookies to be huge contributors in year 1 for the foreseeable future. If we end up with Garland, Morant, Bol Bol, etc. we should draft them with the intent of having a solid veteran in front of them until they are ready to be a major factor.

This is the problem. When you win 20 games a season you need immediate help. If our draft options require a year our two to develop we should trade the pick.

 

[slinslin]

This is the problem. When you win 20 games a season you need immediate help. If our draft options require a year our two to develop we should trade the pick.

no it should not be that easy

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

This is the problem. When you win 20 games a season you need immediate help. If our draft options require a year our two to develop we should trade the pick.

We can use trades and free agency to fill holes for the short term/next few year and use the draft to get players for the long term. For instance if we draft Morant than we can trade JJ or Warren or both plus the MIL pick for a solid veteran PG or PF and sign the best of the other position that you can. Then let Morant spend his rookie year developing off the bench and if he flourishes early than he can earn the starting spot. That allows us to focus on increasing our win total and still develop some youth for the future at the same time.

With a high pick this year we should have more than enough young talent to build a core for the future and the next year or two should just be about adding helpful veterans to help the team win and develop a winning culture. From there our future picks (hopefully in the 20s every year) we can focus on adding guys with potential and letting then develop from the bench (Siakam is a prime example of this sort of thing).

 

[JCSunsfan]

This is the problem. When you win 20 games a season you need immediate help. If our draft options require a year our two to develop we should trade the pick.

Trading away a potential superstar for short term vet help is not a good idea. You trade picks when you are contending and need a final piece or there is a deal available you just cannot refuse. This is especially true with top three picks.

 

[Hoop Head]

I like how the idea is to trade JJ so we can acquire a veteran to allow our new pick to develop. Why not trade the pick and let JJ develop? I mean, he's probably got more upside than anyone we'd select would.

I can see the point in drafting for the future but how long will that last? At what point will people get mad our rookie isn't seeing playing time or they decide he's a bust and needs to be sent packing already. Our last few projects that were drafted have all been deemed busts at this point, JJ, Bender, Chriss, Goodwin, Len, Ulis, the list could go on but those are picks from the McD era. Why the change? Why not develop the one guy we have left instead of jettisoning him for a vet so we can sit a different rookie and let him learn?

 

[Chaplin]

Morant's been pretty impressive so far against Marquette.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Morant's been pretty impressive so far against Marquette.

kid has totally controlled the game. Incredibly impressive passing throughout.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I like how the idea is to trade JJ so we can acquire a veteran to allow our new pick to develop. Why not trade the pick and let JJ develop? I mean, he's probably got more upside than anyone we'd select would.

I can see the point in drafting for the future but how long will that last? At what point will people get mad our rookie isn't seeing playing time or they decide he's a bust and needs to be sent packing already. Our last few projects that were drafted have all been deemed busts at this point, JJ, Bender, Chriss, Goodwin, Len, Ulis, the list could go on but those are picks from the McD era. Why the change? Why not develop the one guy we have left instead of jettisoning him for a vet so we can sit a different rookie and let him learn?

One of the reasons I liked Tatum A LOT more than Jackson was that Tatum was viewed as less athletic but a lot more skilled. I think too much is made of potential in basketball. Sure it's a sport with a lot of great athletes, but the skill aspects of the sport are so important. JJ just isn't all that good at the skill aspects of the sport.

I think it's a bad idea to draft a project high in the first round. Take guys that are skilled AND good athletes. Use non-lottery picks on the JJs of the world or let stupid teams do that.

 

[Proximo]

I like how the idea is to trade JJ so we can acquire a veteran to allow our new pick to develop. Why not trade the pick and let JJ develop? I mean, he's probably got more upside than anyone we'd select would.

I can see the point in drafting for the future but how long will that last? At what point will people get mad our rookie isn't seeing playing time or they decide he's a bust and needs to be sent packing already. Our last few projects that were drafted have all been deemed busts at this point, JJ, Bender, Chriss, Goodwin, Len, Ulis, the list could go on but those are picks from the McD era. Why the change? Why not develop the one guy we have left instead of jettisoning him for a vet so we can sit a different rookie and let him learn?

The reason is statistically Josh Jackson is basically the worst second year player getting significant minutes ever. If you go by history the odds of him becoming a good player are very slim at this point.

With that said I am of two minds on this - part of me thinks he may be the exception. But that thought is most likely wrong. Exceptions are well - Exceptions. He is really an infuriating player because he makes great plays, and horrific ones regularly. But he is more bad than good.

But - his value is low enough I would like to wait to see if he develops over the Summer even if it is unlikely. Problem is we may very well need his cap space before than.

 

[Mainstreet]

This is a player to keep an eye on in the draft if he declares.

Mfiondu Kabengele of Florida state is the nephew of Mutumbo.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065660/mfiondu-kabengele

 

[Mainstreet]

Brandon Clarke (PF) of Gonzaga is wowing tonight against Baylor. He has 32 points thus far.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Brandon Clarke (PF) of Gonzaga is wowing tonight against Baylor. He has 32 points thus far.

When I watch Clarke I am just not impressed. He is highly aggressive. He gets fed the ball well and often by teammates. He can finish when he is spoon fed. He is an aggressive rebounder.

But he looks like he has very short arms and stiff in the upper body. He does not seem to be skilled with the ball in his hands. He looks nothing like Tatum did when I watched him in college.

I am just not sure his game will translate well to the pros outside being maybe an effective bench player.

 

[GatorAZ]

Brandon Clarke (PF) of Gonzaga is wowing tonight against Baylor. He has 32 points thus far.

Went to Desert Vista

#ValleyBoyz

 

[overseascardfan]

Add Dedric Lawson as potential second round pick. KU lost but he was a beast for them in the second half and is an all around talent who can shoot, rebound, pass and play defense. If PHX gets Morant, he would be a solid pick up in Round 2 who at worst would be a nice bench player.

 

[Mainstreet]

When I watch Clarke I am just not impressed. He is highly aggressive. He gets fed the ball well and often by teammates. He can finish when he is spoon fed. He is an aggressive rebounder.

But he looks like he has very short arms and stiff in the upper body. He does not seem to be skilled with the ball in his hands. He looks nothing like Tatum did when I watched him in college.

I am just not sure his game will translate well to the pros outside being maybe an effective bench player.

Clarke is certainly not flashy but he gets the job done.

He reminds me a bit of Gordon Hayward or Kevin Knox in last year's draft.