2021-22 Around the NBA Thread

[Hoop Head]

I wonder if Bronny will skip college and go the G-League route. He's a G-League level player at best from what I've read. His shortcomings might be easier to hide in the G-League as well.

Apparently the only NBA skill he has is his passing, which isn't even at that level yet, and may never get there, but that could also improve with better teammates and a system built to display it.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the NBA gets rid of the "one and done" rule for draft eligibility he could go straight out of high school. But while he is a solid college recruit he isn't anywhere near the level of the guys that used to jump straight into the pros... and the majority of those guys crashed and burned anyway. I think it is likely he goes to college for a year or 2.

Regardless, if LeBron is serious about forcing his way onto Bronny's team then Bronny would have to be really really awful drop out of the first round.

That would be a tricky situation though, LeBron would not be happy if Bronny wasn't getting any playing time, even if he clearly wasn't ready for it.

Remember when the Suns signed Dragic's brother, then Dragic became unhappy because his brother wasn't getting any playing time... even though we only signed his worthless brother to make Dragic happy...

Whoever drafts Bronny needs to realize that Lebron and his son will want to play together so I don't see Lebron forcing himself on any team.

When Lebron's contract expires after the 2022-23 season he can sign for any amount he wants. I doubt will be looking for a contract anywhere close to what he makes now. If a team doesn't feel they can't deal with the situation they shouldn't draft him. Actually I can see teams looking at it as a package deal.

If Bronny comes out a year early maybe the Lakers draft him if they have a pick or can find one.

I don't recall Goran Dragic being overly upset with his brother, Zoran, not getting a lot of playing time. It's been a ways back though.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That will be a deal with the devil. A son who likely does not have NBA talent and a father who is an NBA legend, on the clear downside of his career, and a power broker in the NBA through Klutch.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Lebron is a lot of things but he's not stupid so if Bronny isn't NBA material, he probably knows that. And yeah, he's been wrong on college players before and he's looking at his son through a father's eyes but I still doubt he's this delusional. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just his way of trying to dress up the next "I want out of here" phase of his career.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lebron is a lot of things but he's not stupid so if Bronny isn't NBA material, he probably knows that. And yeah, he's been wrong on college players before and he's looking at his son through a father's eyes but I still doubt he's this delusional. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just his way of trying to dress up the next "I want out of here" phase of his career.

It's probably both. I wouldn't blame him for wanting out of LA even if some of the problems are part of his own creation.

 

[SirStefan32]

A week ago I would have been all about signing him.

I am still all about signing him. It's a playoff rental with very little cost. He can't be worse than Shamet.

 

[Hoop Head]

I am still all about signing him. It's a playoff rental with very little cost. He can't be worse than Shamet.

Shamet may not be what we hoped offensively but he plays within the system on offense and defense. He's actually a good defender as well, which Dragic is not. Dragic needs the ball in his hands on offense and doesn't really try on defense so I'd say Shamet is the better option.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I am still all about signing him. It's a playoff rental with very little cost. He can't be worse than Shamet.

Milwaukee, manipulatively through Woj, has already recruited him with the promise of a significant role - with the injury to Connaughton and the trade of Donte we really can't match that promise.

 

[Mainstreet]

Milwaukee, manipulatively through Woj, has already recruited him with the promise of a significant role - with the injury to Connaughton and the trade of Donte we really can't match that promise.

I don't think the Suns would chance going after Dragic and risk messing with chemistry unless he asked to come here.

Also the Suns would have to waive a player to clear a roster spot so I doubt that's happening unless another player is considered out for the season.

 

[1tinsoldier]

with Warriors, Bucks, and Lakers pursuing Dragic, the play for us to get him is also to block of our playoff competition getting him
-- besides being of significant value to us in replacing playoff time for Payton (who can't shoot -- even free-throws) and Holiday (when you're 6 feet in the NBA you'd better have some crazy good shooting or passing skills, which he doesn't)

his value is doubled
and his chance at a ring is best right here

get er done

 

[AzStevenCal]

with Warriors, Bucks, and Lakers pursuing Dragic, the play for us to get him is also to block of our playoff competition getting him
-- besides being of significant value to us in replacing playoff time for Payton (who can't shoot -- even free-throws) and Holiday (when you're 6 feet in the NBA you'd better have some crazy good shooting or passing skills, which he doesn't)

his value is doubled
and his chance at a ring is best right here

get er done

If it happens I will nominate it for most shocking signing of all time. Considering our chemistry, our record, our depth and the fact that Milwaukee can offer him a larger role and other places can offer him the big city glamor his wife supposedly wanted and the fact he's already orchestrated his way out of Phoenix twice, I just can't see it happening.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Lebron is a lot of things but he's not stupid so if Bronny isn't NBA material, he probably knows that. And yeah, he's been wrong on college players before and he's looking at his son through a father's eyes but I still doubt he's this delusional. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just his way of trying to dress up the next "I want out of here" phase of his career.

I would not put it past LeBron to force a team into taking his son even though he knows his son is not NBA material just to give his son the experience and be able to be the only father-son teammates in NBA history. Do not underestimate LeBron's ego.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I am still all about signing him. It's a playoff rental with very little cost. He can't be worse than Shamet.

Sure he can.

I do not know if he is, but he certainly can be worse. This team has an identity. Players must fit within that identity to play here. I do not know what Goran is like as a person and in the locker room right now, but I am absolutely confident that the players and JJ know. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[JCSunsfan]

BTW. Supposedly it was CP3 that wanted Torrey Craig back. I am sure JJ did too.

So, what is CP3's role after his playing days are over?

Coach, GM, or both.

 

[Mainstreet]

I would not put it past LeBron to force a team into taking his son even though he knows his son is not NBA material just to give his son the experience and be able to be the only father-son teammates in NBA history. Do not underestimate LeBron's ego.

Worse case scenario it would only take a second round pick to draft Bronny. Some team will do it.

 

[Ronin]

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[Dback Jon]

It's probably both. I wouldn't blame him for wanting out of LA even if some of the problems are part of his own creation.

Most of the problems are his creation

 

[Mainstreet]

Caleb Martin is signing for the rest of the season with the Heat to a regular roster spot.

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[AzStevenCal]

I would not put it past LeBron to force a team into taking his son even though he knows his son is not NBA material just to give his son the experience and be able to be the only father-son teammates in NBA history. Do not underestimate LeBron's ego.

I certainly think his ego is big enough to do this and if his son was coming out this year he might even be able to make it happen But I believe his power within NBA circles is already waning and it will decline even faster if this Lakers team does nothing in the postseason.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I certainly think his ego is big enough to do this and if his son was coming out this year he might even be able to make it happen But I believe his power within NBA circles is already waning and it will decline even faster if this Lakers team does nothing in the postseason.

I am hoping this is true.

 

[Phrazbit]

If it happens I will nominate it for most shocking signing of all time. Considering our chemistry, our record, our depth and the fact that Milwaukee can offer him a larger role and other places can offer him the big city glamor his wife supposedly wanted and the fact he's already orchestrated his way out of Phoenix twice, I just can't see it happening.

Agreed. It was pretty telling that even before getting Holiday the Suns were not listed on the teams rumored to pursue Dragic.

That bridge is burnt from both ends.

 

[95pro]

Didn't Dragic flip us off as he left the floor?

 

[Phrazbit]

Didn't Dragic flip us off as he left the floor?

Jason Kidd did... I don't recall Dragic doing that.

 

[GatorAZ]

Celtics rolling right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Stix had 11 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists tonight in Pacers loss to the Bucks.