2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

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Watch to see if Isiah Todd gets cut, or Toumani's contract is two-way.

I think Toumani Camara will be a two-way contract player. Possibly Saban Lee as well if he qualifies.

Isaiah Todd is a mystery player. I'm not sure how the Suns view him.
 

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I think Toumani Camara will be a two-way contract player. Possibly Saban Lee as well if he qualifies.

Isaiah Todd is a mystery player. I'm not sure how the Suns view him.
I was pretty sure we signed Saban as the two way. He wasn't suited up for playoffs. It came down to Ish and Saben as who would get a regular contract. Ish got it.
 

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Something to know. A team cannot convert a standard contract to a two-way contract unless the player is waived.


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This was list of #Suns players before Eric Gordon agreed to two-year deal with player option on 2nd year.Seeing chatter on two-way deals. Teams can now have three.Quick FYI, teams can't convert standard deal to two-way, but if a player is waived, he can sign a two-way deal. pic.twitter.com/q5yUFMTBZT
 

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Something to know. A team cannot convert a standard contract to a two-way contract unless the player is waived.


Duane Rankin @DuaneRankin

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This was list of #Suns players before Eric Gordon agreed to two-year deal with player option on 2nd year.Seeing chatter on two-way deals. Teams can now have three.Quick FYI, teams can't convert standard deal to two-way, but if a player is waived, he can sign a two-way deal. pic.twitter.com/q5yUFMTBZT
I haven't seen anything on Camara's contract details. I am wondering if he is two way.
 

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I haven't seen anything on Camara's contract details. I am wondering if he is two way.

I couldn't find any details. Maybe he hasn't signed yet? If so, he could be placed on a two-way contract.
 

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I couldn't find any details. Maybe he hasn't signed yet? If so, he could be placed on a two-way contract.
It's weird to have a press conference for your draft pick, and not announce contract details! I am thinking it HAS to be a two-way just the way JJ is pursuing guys. Like he still has ammo in his gun left.
 

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It's weird to have a press conference for your draft pick, and not announce contract details! I am thinking it HAS to be a two-way just the way JJ is pursuing guys. Like he still has ammo in his gun left.

I bet Mat Ishbia is telling James Jones not to stop, keep swinging away.
 

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I bet Mat Ishbia is telling James Jones not to stop, keep swinging away.
OK! Just been thinking about this. Under Sarver, JJ never had an off season like this. Now, he's like a GM wizard under Ishbia. Only difference is the owners. Is Ishbia being a basketball guy, a bigger difference than we realize? This whole thing has been very strategic under Ishbia. Wether it works or not is debatable, but it definitely seems like planned moves. What's so cool about it, is the Suns targeting who they want. KD, go for it. Beal, go for it. Now all these moves Friday, and now today. They all have the feeling of us targeting people AND getting who we are targeting. Is it JJ or Ishbia? Is it the combo of both?
 

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This team is gonna run and shoot 3s. IF they can get enough time during a season that I’m sure will have injuries to KD/Beal to develop chemistry and go into the playoffs healthy, they will be dynamite.

EVERYONE on this team has something major to prove… from KD winning without Stef to Book winning his first title to Beal proving he’s a winner… young guys that they belong… a coach who wants to prove he’s more than a Bron-Bubble-Chip.

And Ayton.
 

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This team is gonna run and shoot 3s. IF they can get enough time during a season that I’m sure will have injuries to KD/Beal to develop chemistry and go into the playoffs healthy, they will be dynamite.

EVERYONE on this team has something major to prove… from KD winning without Stef to Book winning his first title to Beal proving he’s a winner… young guys that they belong… a coach who wants to prove he’s more than a Bron-Bubble-Chip.

And Ayton.
You want hungry dogs, not old retreads with nothing to prove. Even our old guys have something to prove. This is a team of ballers, dogs, whatever you want to call it. Totally agree, @cheesebeef :thumbup:
 

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OK! Just been thinking about this. Under Sarver, JJ never had an off season like this. Now, he's like a GM wizard under Ishbia. Only difference is the owners. Is Ishbia being a basketball guy, a bigger difference than we realize? This whole thing has been very strategic under Ishbia. Wether it works or not is debatable, but it definitely seems like planned moves. What's so cool about it, is the Suns targeting who they want. KD, go for it. Beal, go for it. Now all these moves Friday, and now today. They all have the feeling of us targeting people AND getting who we are targeting. Is it JJ or Ishbia? Is it the combo of both?

It's hard to separate moves because Booker and Durant had a huge impact on the Suns additions this off season.

I think the pendulum swung the Suns way when they were able to trade Paul and Shamet for Bradley Beal. This likely doesn't happen without the addition of Durant.

Then the dam broke. Momentum s a real thing.

Keeping Deandre Ayton is huge because either he works out or the Suns use him in trade for future assets.

To answer your question, I think James Jones planned to trade for Kevin Durant all last season but it was Mat Ishbia that pulled the trigger. The answer is both.
 

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It's hard to separate moves because Booker and Durant had a huge impact on the Suns additions this off season.

I think the pendulum swung the Suns way when they were able to trade Paul and Shamet for Bradley Beal. This likely doesn't happen without the addition of Durant.

Then the dam broke. Momentum s a real thing.

Keeping Deandre Ayton is huge because either he works out or the Suns use him in trade for future assets.

To answer your question, I think James Jones planned to trade for Kevin Durant all last season but it was Mat Ishbia that pulled the trigger. The answer is both.
And they both KNEW the gravity of a Book/KD pairing would draw more talent to them. Something that seemed so obvious to me which was why I was so dumbfounded at all the sky is falling/has fallen discourse running rampant from so many on here.

Now health is still a LEGITIMATE concern, but the ability for this team to add talent to it shouldn’t be anymore.
 

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Curious how this offseason compares to previous ones. And it's only July 2nd.

This appears to be one of the greatest offseasons in Suns history. Couple that with the trade deadline trade, and we are looking at the best set of moves in franchise history. If we get a title, then it's not even arguable.
 

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This all is a throwback to the glory days of the mid 90s under Jerry C. when the Suns were seemingly THE destination franchise that everyone wanted to play for. Hopefully the outcome will be even better this time.
 

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And they both KNEW the gravity of a Book/KD pairing would draw more talent to them. Something that seemed so obvious to me which was why I was so dumbfounded at all the sky is falling/has fallen discourse running rampant from so many on here.

Now health is still a LEGITIMATE concern, but the ability for this team to add talent to it shouldn’t be anymore.
Obviously you can't have a guy at the top go down for the playoffs. CP3 is proof of that. But I feel better we have the depth (debt) to carry the team more in the regular season so we shouldn't have to burden those top guys too much.
 
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The KD superteam allegations will not go away. This is a superteam and if he wins the allegations that KD needs an superteam to win are true, if he loses then he can’t win with a superteam. KD needs to fire up those burners to push another narrative to his favor
 
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Curious how this offseason compares to previous ones. And it's only July 2nd.

This appears to be one of the greatest offseasons in Suns history. Couple that with the trade deadline trade, and we are looking at the best set of moves in franchise history. If we get a title, then it's not even arguable.
@Chaplin This is the best WEEKEND in free agency I can ever remember.
 

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Obviously you can't have a guy at the top go down for the playoffs. CP3 is proof of that. But I feel better we have the debt to carry the team more in the regular season so we shouldn't have to burden those top guys too
You’re killing me Smalls.
 

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This all is a throwback to the glory days of the mid 90s under Jerry C. when the Suns were seemingly THE destination franchise that everyone wanted to play for. Hopefully the outcome will be even better this time.
Yup yup.

Chap asked if this was the best off-season ever? It’s not but it’s certainly close to those mid 90’s years where in consecutive offseasons we traded for Barkley/Signed Ainge (best off-season), then the next year signed AC Green who was the best FA and then the following season signed Danny Manning who was not just the best FA but a legit All-Star in the prime of his career.

I’d put it right next to the Barkley/Ainge off-season. Traded for a legit All-Star, signed a Ainge-ish FA and rounded out the roster with young, athletic shooters.

That doesn’t happen with Sarver. That’s a Colangelo-esque off-season. Hopefully the first of many more to come.
 

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And they both KNEW the gravity of a Book/KD pairing would draw more talent to them. Something that seemed so obvious to me which was why I was so dumbfounded at all the sky is falling/has fallen discourse running rampant from so many on here.

Now health is still a LEGITIMATE concern, but the ability for this team to add talent to it shouldn’t be anymore.

I don't think too many people were doubting that the Suns could add talent this year. Ring-chasing is a well-documented phenomenon, and the Suns looked like a contender on paper even before the Beal trade. Jones has done well to talk up the Suns' chances.

Whether guys are going to be falling over themselves to join the Suns on minimum contracts once Durant is gone remains to be seen. The current crop are all signed for only a year or two, and a core of Booker/Beal/Ayton (or whatever Ayton fetches in a trade) screams 50-and-fade at best.
 

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This team is gonna run and shoot 3s. IF they can get enough time during a season that I’m sure will have injuries to KD/Beal to develop chemistry and go into the playoffs healthy, they will be dynamite.

EVERYONE on this team has something major to prove… from KD winning without Stef to Book winning his first title to Beal proving he’s a winner… young guys that they belong… a coach who wants to prove he’s more than a Bron-Bubble-Chip.

And Ayton.

The suns have 8 guys who shoot over 36% from three and then Devin Booker just under that.
 

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Yup yup.

Chap asked if this was the best off-season ever? It’s not but it’s certainly close to those mid 90’s years where in consecutive offseasons we traded for Barkley/Signed Ainge (best off-season), then the next year signed AC Green who was the best FA and then the following season signed Danny Manning who was not just the best FA but a legit All-Star in the prime of his career.

I’d put it right next to the Barkley/Ainge off-season. Traded for a legit All-Star, signed a Ainge-ish FA and rounded out the roster with young, athletic shooters.

That doesn’t happen with Sarver. That’s a Colangelo-esque off-season. Hopefully the first of many more to come.
I say it's arguably the best weekend in Suns history! LOL!
 

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