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Yes, and he is way overpaid and I just don't see the IQ required to mature.

There are other centers to be had, but if Stewart gets his act together, no one is going to be kicking sand in the Suns faces.

I'm a bit tired of the Suns soft image. The Suns could have done a lot worse than keeping Ayton.
 

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Pelicans lose Murray for the year with an achillies tear.

Them getting Aaron Nelson to run their training has not yielded strong results, they've gotta be the most injured team in basketball over the last few seasons.
 

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There are other centers to be had, but if Stewart gets his act together, no one is going to be kicking sand in the Suns faces.

I'm a bit tired of the Suns soft image. The Suns could have done a lot worse than keeping Ayton.
Ayton is better than Nurkic is and better than Nurkic was, not even that close. But I still think we'd burned all our bridges with him (and vice versa) so moving on was the right decision IMO, just should have found a better deal.
 

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Ayton is better than Nurkic is and better than Nurkic was, not even that close. But I still think we'd burned all our bridges with him (and vice versa) so moving on was the right decision IMO, just should have found a better deal.

Ayton deserves every amount of criticism this board hurls at him, however, I wish we'd given him a chance with Vogel, or more precisely, I wish we'd given Vogel a chance with him. Vogel without any interior defense was a doomed proposition.

I also think we really settled for a garbage trade. Allen is, thankfully, turning his season around, but Nurkic, at his best, was a sub standard starter on a bad contract who got hurt all the time. Throwing in Camara was just another glimps of the Suns caving in just about every aspect imaginable in trade situations the last few years.
 

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If we end up not trading all our picks, James Jones has at least shown a knack for picking decent players like Cam Johnson, Camara, and Dunn with lower picks. Maybe the optimal route is to do the minimum or nothing by the trade deadline
 

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If we end up not trading all our picks, James Jones has at least shown a knack for picking decent players like Cam Johnson, Camara, and Dunn with lower picks. Maybe the optimal route is to do the minimum or nothing by the trade deadline

The verdict is still out for me if James Jones should get credit for all those draft picks.

I know a couple that he missed or traded, including a 2 X NBA All-Star.
 

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Dejounte Murray is reported out for the season with the Pelicans.

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The verdict is still out for me if James Jones should get credit for all those draft picks.

I know a couple that he missed or traded, including a 2 X NBA All-Star.

Credit could be given to me. I take responsibility for Bender, Chriss and Josh Jackson also..
 

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Credit could be given to me. I take responsibility for Bender, Chriss and Josh Jackson also..

This can't be true. I know we had a discussion about drafting De'Aaron Fox.

You did relay my messages to draft Fox didn't you?

Also trade for Shai and draft Haliburton?
 

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Ayton is better than Nurkic is and better than Nurkic was, not even that close. But I still think we'd burned all our bridges with him (and vice versa) so moving on was the right decision IMO, just should have found a better deal.
Or at the very least, not given up Camara in the deal.
 

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I'm desperate enough to trade for Isaiah Stewart. At least no one would be sticking fingers in his face.

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He pushed him in the chest and the guy flopped over like warm tortilla. I imagine both guys had been going back and forth all game long, and the recipient knew it was coming because he got into a taking a charge stance.

I always think of NBA old school players saying they would not necessarily retaliate that game the refs are watching, but would wait until the teams played again, maybe even a couple games later. I remember watching as a kid, some guy would get a hard foul seemingly for no reason. Occasionally the announcer would say something like this goes back a few games.
 
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