but it is an opinion, which does not make it wrong.
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The NHL has actually come a long way. There's about 30 or so black players currently in the NHL.
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Well, you can have an opinion that is wrong.
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The issue with Bowles is that his first year the Jets went 10-6 then couldn't win more than 5 games the next 3. Yes he had a clown car of QB's but his first year, he had Fitzmagic then didn't keep him. But the fact of the matter is, coaches get fired. Even Bellichick was fired in his career.
Ah yes, let’s all gather around and argue about nothing, like good ol’ Americans do in 2019.
If the best man is hired for the job, who the hell cares about what race/nationality/religion he is? As far as I know, that’s how NFL teams operate. When the competition is as high as it is in the NFL for open jobs, you earn the job based on your skill set, not what color your skin is. So there’s less black head coaches in the NFL? Is that really an NFL problem? This is why the Rooney rule is outdated
If the best man is hired for the job, who the hell cares about what race/nationality/religion he is? As far as I know, that’s how NFL teams operate. When the competition is as high as it is in the NFL for open jobs, you earn the job based on your skill set, not what color your skin is. So there’s less black head coaches in the NFL? Is that really an NFL problem? This is why the Rooney rule is outdated
I never said whether it was right or wrong. Just idiotic.
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Whole issue of race in professional football whether coaches or players is ridiculous. Teams hire or sign the best people for the job regardless of race. People can debate why it is that there are far more black wide receivers or running backs in the NFL than whites but no one can dispute that those players are better than whites who play the same position . On the management side do you really think owners give a hoot whether the head coach, GM,or coordinators are white or black. Of course not . All they care about ,and all they should care about is can they help the team win.
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forever red, not trying to start anything brother, but then using your same logic, would you consider those whites who are hired as head coaches,GM's and coordinators better than blacks who man the same job? It's a little bit different of a dynamic IMO. I find some unfairness there, but I'm not going to go into a tangent about it. I just want to see fairness, and all judged by the same measuring stick.
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We are on the same page. Just stating facts. All owners care about is winning . Whether players or management are black or white makes no difference as long as they put ownership in the best position to win. The reality is that, at least statistically ,there are more black WRs and running backs in the NFL than whites . Ownership doesn't care . Similarly if a black general manager or black coach, ie Ozzie Newsome or Mike Tomlin performs better than their white counterparts their position will be secure . Only point is at least IMO race plays no role in the decisions made by ownership at least not as long as the almighty dollar remains king.
We are on the same page. Just stating facts. All owners care about is winning . Whether players or management are black or white makes no difference as long as they put ownership in the best position to win. The reality is that, at least statistically ,there are more black WRs and running backs in the NFL than whites . Ownership doesn't care . Similarly if a black general manager or black coach, ie Ozzie Newsome or Mike Tomlin performs better than their white counterparts their position will be secure . Only point is at least IMO race plays no role in the decisions made by ownership at least not as long as the almighty dollar remains king.
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I don’t want to get into a political discussion on the firing and hiring of black coaches. IMO there are more HC coaches being fired every year than qualified candidates available to take their place regardless of color. Head Coaches are being hired that really are not qualified as they lack experience. The trend today is to get the hot OC rather than the DC. That is the Sean McVay conundrum. Additionally, it's all about winning and the present owners have no patience on going through a rebuilding process.
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<sigh> No.
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The entire premise is ridiculous...If anything, firing a black coach after one year shows that they are being held to the same level of accountability as their white counterparts...
What are these people implying...set the scene...wealthy NFL owner wakes up after two weeks of partying with hookers and cocaine, when his assistant comes into his penthouse (strewn with said hookers and nose candy), "Sir, you will be late to press conference to introduce your new head coach"...wealthy owner pushes passed out hooker off of him, gets dressed and heads to the presser.
Slowly the haze of drugs wears off and in the middle of the presser he makes a startling discovery..."BAW GAWD I HIRED A COLORED FELLA" (extra points if you read that in Jim Ross' voice)...as the new HC begins answering questions from the press, the owner shoots a sideways glance of disgust at the GM, who in a glance replies, "I know, I know, but we did a lot of cocaine...and you thought it would be funny to hire him"...
Are their racists in the NFL? ABSOLUTELY...There are racists of every race, color, religion, and creed. That's life.
There is an old term, "the soft racism of low expectations"...if we truly want equality, then there needs to be one standard.
Would an owner, regardless of personal prejudices let his feelings have an impact on his bottom line? Highly unlikely.
Where was the outrage for Rob Chudzinski? How about Chip Kelly? Jim Mora Jr. (1 year with the Seahawks), Jim Tomsula? These guys did NOT get it done on the field and the owner moved on...Neither did Wilks, Joseph, and Jackson.
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What are these people implying...set the scene...wealthy NFL owner wakes up after two weeks of partying with hookers and cocaine, when his assistant comes into his penthouse (strewn with said hookers and nose candy), "Sir, you will be late to press conference to introduce your new head coach"...wealthy owner pushes passed out hooker off of him, gets dressed and heads to the presser.
Slowly the haze of drugs wears off and in the middle of the presser he makes a startling discovery..."BAW GAWD I HIRED A COLORED FELLA" (extra points if you read that in Jim Ross' voice)...as the new HC begins answering questions from the press, the owner shoots a sideways glance of disgust at the GM, who in a glance replies, "I know, I know, but we did a lot of cocaine...and you thought it would be funny to hire him"...
Are their racists in the NFL? ABSOLUTELY...There are racists of every race, color, religion, and creed. That's life.
There is an old term, "the soft racism of low expectations"...if we truly want equality, then there needs to be one standard.
Would an owner, regardless of personal prejudices let his feelings have an impact on his bottom line? Highly unlikely.
Where was the outrage for Rob Chudzinski? How about Chip Kelly? Jim Mora Jr. (1 year with the Seahawks), Jim Tomsula? These guys did NOT get it done on the field and the owner moved on...Neither did Wilks, Joseph, and Jackson.
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Krangodnzr
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Opinions can be wrong if uninformed.
Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance. - Plato
so the solution is...don't hire black coaches? Or let black coaches remain employed regardless of performance?
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Michael Bidwill will receive the Fritz Pollard award during the super Bowl. Has this been reported on here, yet?
https://www.azcardinals.com/news/michael-bidwill-to-receive-fritz-pollard-award
https://www.azcardinals.com/news/michael-bidwill-to-receive-fritz-pollard-award
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This is going to ruffle a few feathers at BSPN.
Never heard of it.
