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[BleedRed]

Just wanted to remind everyone last year we were 8-8... with possibly our best player (David Johnson) missing almost the entire season, starting 3 different QBs, and several other key injuries. A few solid moves this off-season and we could easily find ourselves back in the playoffs. Don't visit the board much these days with all the negativity. Optimist we will get Cousins, Foles, or Bridgewater and find ourselves back in the mix next year. Make it happen SK! Let's go Cards!

 

[AZCrazy]

We have talent all over the roster. Need our QB and some O Line help. We'll be alright.

 

[Finito]

Just wanted to remind everyone last year we were 8-8... with possibly our best player (David Johnson) missing almost the entire season, starting 3 different QBs, and several other key injuries. A few solid moves this off-season and we could easily find ourselves back in the playoffs. Don't visit the board much these days with all the negativity. Optimist we will get Cousins, Foles, or Bridgewater and find ourselves back in the mix next year. Make it happen SK! Let's go Cards!

Been saying that. If you just read this board you would think we were 0-16

 

[NJCardFan]

Been saying that. If you just read this board you would think we were 0-16

Because we were 8-8 and completely unimpressive. We struggled to beat SF twice, got spanked twice by the Rams, the Eagles used us for a chew toy, we had to struggle to beat a team who we were beating 31-0 and they were on their backup QB, we lost to the Texans while making probably the worst starter in the NFL look like Joe Montana, we struggled to beat a horrible Colts team, and our biggest win came against a team who mailed it in several weeks before. Nothing I've said here is untrue. This was one of the most unimpressive 8-8 seasons in history and all it did was worsen our draft position.

 

[Finito]

Because we were 8-8 and completely unimpressive. We struggled to beat SF twice, got spanked twice by the Rams, the Eagles used us for a chew toy, we had to struggle to beat a team who we were beating 31-0 and they were on their backup QB, we lost to the Texans while making probably the worst starter in the NFL look like Joe Montana, we struggled to beat a horrible Colts team, and our biggest win came against a team who mailed it in several weeks before. Nothing I've said here is untrue. This was one of the most unimpressive 8-8 seasons in history and all it did was worsen our draft position.

Smh

Again with our offense in shambles due to injury, but you don't see that. You see what you want a glass half empty type.

 

[NJCardFan]

Smh

Again with our offense in shambles due to injury, but you don't see that. You see what you want a glass half empty type.

No, I see reality. The way last season was going, it would have been better to tank instead of winning meaningless games because if we did what was right, we wouldn't be talking about mortgaging our future to move up in this draft.

 

[Solar7]

I agree that we're closer to winning than some, but I am concerned that the team was just enormously well coached, and we don't know that our current coaching staff is going to be as good.

There's a lot for this team to pick up on schematically, a need for them to buy in, and time for Wilks to get "his guys" onto the team. I think a lot of it hinges on our QB situation - I could see us limping out of the gate and struggling this year.

With a Bradford/Bridgewater/Keenum/McCarron/Rookie as the starter, I see us underperforming to last year. I have the most faith in Bradford of that group to prevent a backslide, I just don't know that he'll remain healthy.

That's what has me wary about trading up with a lot of capital for a QB this year, if we go all-in on a rookie, I expect us to finish more like 5-11/6-10, and giving up a top ten draft pick.

 

[NJCardFan]

I agree that we're closer to winning than some, but I am concerned that the team was just enormously well coached, and we don't know that our current coaching staff is going to be as good.

There's a lot for this team to pick up on schematically, a need for them to buy in, and time for Wilks to get "his guys" onto the team. I think a lot of it hinges on our QB situation - I could see us limping out of the gate and struggling this year.

With a Bradford/Bridgewater/Keenum/McCarron/Rookie as the starter, I see us underperforming to last year. I have the most faith in Bradford of that group to prevent a backslide, I just don't know that he'll remain healthy.

That's what has me wary about trading up with a lot of capital for a QB this year, if we go all-in on a rookie, I expect us to finish more like 5-11/6-10, and giving up a top ten draft pick.

We're closer to being a playoff contender, not a championship contender. We're nowhere near Philly, Dallas, GB(with a healthy Rogers), Minnesota(especially if they get Cousins) or even the Rams. We're in the Titans/Jags/Bill category. This team has lots of holes and looking at our upcoming schedule, especially on the road, we're in for a tough time. We go to GB, Minnesota, Atlanta, KC, & LAC. If we win 2 of those games we'd be lucky. And the Rams will be good again and the 49ers will be better. We could be better but then again we could be worse. Remember, new coaching staff so there's that.

 

[Solar7]

We're closer to being a playoff contender, not a championship contender. We're nowhere near Philly, Dallas, GB(with a healthy Rogers), Minnesota(especially if they get Cousins) or even the Rams. We're in the Titans/Jags/Bill category. This team has lots of holes and looking at our upcoming schedule, especially on the road, we're in for a tough time. We go to GB, Minnesota, Atlanta, KC, & LAC. If we win 2 of those games we'd be lucky. And the Rams will be good again and the 49ers will be better. We could be better but then again we could be worse. Remember, new coaching staff so there's that.

I agree with most of this post but I wouldn’t call Dallas unequivocally better than us. And I’m uncertain about Green Bay.

That doesn’t change the fact that I see us finishing second or third in our division without Cousins or an unexpectedly transcendent performance from our other options in free agency and the draft.

 

[BleedRed]

We're closer to being a playoff contender, not a championship contender. We're nowhere near Philly, Dallas, GB(with a healthy Rogers), Minnesota(especially if they get Cousins) or even the Rams. We're in the Titans/Jags/Bill category. This team has lots of holes and looking at our upcoming schedule, especially on the road, we're in for a tough time. We go to GB, Minnesota, Atlanta, KC, & LAC. If we win 2 of those games we'd be lucky. And the Rams will be good again and the 49ers will be better. We could be better but then again we could be worse. Remember, new coaching staff so there's that.

The funny thing is I have a buddy who is a die hard rams fan, and prior to last season he felt pretty much hopeless and like they were several years away from relevance, almost all experts agreed. You really never know when a team will take off.

 

[NJCardFan]

I agree with most of this post but I wouldn’t call Dallas unequivocally better than us. And I’m uncertain about Green Bay.

That doesn’t change the fact that I see us finishing second or third in our division without Cousins or an unexpectedly transcendent performance from our other options in free agency and the draft.

Not to fast in our division. The 49ers are an unknown right now but with the way JG lifted that team late last season, which would be a fluke, makes one take pause. Right now, we might be the 4th best team in our own division. That's not to say we're the worst team because IMO the NFC West is looking to be one of the tougher divisions it's just that sitting right now we're looking up at everyone. That could change, of course but at this moment(especially with no QB) we're at the bottom.

 

[NJCardFan]

The funny thing is I have a buddy who is a die hard rams fan, and prior to last season he felt pretty much hopeless and like they were several years away from relevance, almost all experts agreed. You really never know when a team will take off.

Different situation. Rams had more of an upside than we do right now. Their defense is far and away better than ours and they were even in 2016(they did beat us, at home, after all). They have a top tier QB, a really good RB, and a good offensive line. They just needed a different coach. Right now, we have a beat up line that isn't getting any younger, no QB, not much of a receiving corp, and our defense presents concerns. The Rams, outside of needing a receiving threat, had none of those concerns going into last year.

 

[BleedRed]

Not to fast in our division. The 49ers are an unknown right now but with the way JG lifted that team late last season, which would be a fluke, makes one take pause. Right now, we might be the 4th best team in our own division. That's not to say we're the worst team because IMO the NFC West is looking to be one of the tougher divisions it's just that sitting right now we're looking up at everyone. That could change, of course but at this moment(especially with no QB) we're at the bottom.

Talent wise were second behind the rams, with the offseason to go. The Seahawks are being gutted as we speak and San Fran doesn't has much talent to speak of besides Jimmy G (just goes to show you how far good QB play will take you). I'm confident we will find a short term solution via trade or free agency and a long term solution in the draft this year.

 

[BleedRed]

Different situation. Rams had more of an upside than we do right now. Their defense is far and away better than ours and they were even in 2016(they did beat us, at home, after all). They have a top tier QB, a really good RB, and a good offensive line. They just needed a different coach. Right now, we have a beat up line that isn't getting any younger, no QB, not much of a receiving corp, and our defense presents concerns. The Rams, outside of needing a receiving threat, had none of those concerns going into last year.

We were a top 10 defense last year, the rams were not. ... I take a healthy DJ over Gurley any day of the week. Their o line is the only glaring strength they have on us besides QB at the moment.

 

[Solar7]

Not to fast in our division. The 49ers are an unknown right now but with the way JG lifted that team late last season, which would be a fluke, makes one take pause. Right now, we might be the 4th best team in our own division. That's not to say we're the worst team because IMO the NFC West is looking to be one of the tougher divisions it's just that sitting right now we're looking up at everyone. That could change, of course but at this moment(especially with no QB) we're at the bottom.

I could see the Rams self destructing with such a young coach, two wild CBs that were cast off for personality reasons, and their two offensive stars being very young. The moment that things go wrong, does McVay have the clout to keep the ship moving?

Same with the 49ers... Garoppolo will likely come down to earth.

But I’d still argue that the Rams and 9ers are trending upwards, we’re stagnant for now, and the Seahawks are trending down.

 

[BleedRed]

Different situation. Rams had more of an upside than we do right now. Their defense is far and away better than ours and they were even in 2016(they did beat us, at home, after all). They have a top tier QB, a really good RB, and a good offensive line. They just needed a different coach. Right now, we have a beat up line that isn't getting any younger, no QB, not much of a receiving corp, and our defense presents concerns. The Rams, outside of needing a receiving threat, had none of those concerns going into last year.

Furthermore they solidified their oline in the offseason last year, and Goff was considered a few years away from being able to lead that team to the playoffs, the coaching philosophies made a big difference there but besides that your other comments are just blind negativity.

 

[NJCardFan]

Talent wise were second behind the rams, with the offseason to go. The Seahawks are being gutted as we speak and San Fran doesn't has much talent to speak of besides Jimmy G (just goes to show you how far good QB play will take you). I'm confident we will find a short term solution via trade or free agency and a long term solution in the draft this year.

Sorry but we're not. We have DJ, CJ and PP and that's pretty much it. Fitz is Fitz but he's no spring chicken. Smoke seems to be the shell of what we thought he might be. JB#2 showed improvement last year but it still an unknown. JJ Nelson, while he has speed, can turn into stone hands at times. We have no TE to speak of. OL-wise, Iupati and Veldheer are coming off injury plagues seasons, Humphries is still a wild card. Believe me, this team has more holes than Augusta.

 

[PACardsFan]

We were 8-8 because we won 3 meaningless games down the stretch. We were a painfully awful offensive team, pretty much unwatchable. Until they start winning games that count, we are a pretty poor team. We also need to start winning in dominating fashion. We haven’t pummeled anyone in a long time.

 

[AZfaninMN]

We're closer to being a playoff contender, not a championship contender. We're nowhere near Philly, Dallas, GB(with a healthy Rogers), Minnesota(especially if they get Cousins) or even the Rams. We're in the Titans/Jags/Bill category. This team has lots of holes and looking at our upcoming schedule, especially on the road, we're in for a tough time. We go to GB, Minnesota, Atlanta, KC, & LAC. If we win 2 of those games we'd be lucky. And the Rams will be good again and the 49ers will be better. We could be better but then again we could be worse. Remember, new coaching staff so there's that.

Philly(7-9), Minnesota(8-8), NO(7-9) and LA(4-12). Those were their 2016 records. The nfl is a revolving door. No one considered these teams playoff teams let alone championship contenders. Some key FA signings and good draft picks turned that around. Who’s saying we can’t do that and pair them with playmakers like DJ? Anything is possible in today’s NFL

 

[Jetstream Green]

We were 8-8 because we won 3 meaningless games down the stretch. We were a painfully awful offensive team, pretty much unwatchable. Until they start winning games that count, we are a pretty poor team. We also need to start winning in dominating fashion. We haven’t pummeled anyone in a long time.

The Giants thank you for ignoring their trip to the woodshed courtesy of the Cardinals

 

[sdscard4]

Because we were 8-8 and completely unimpressive. We struggled to beat SF twice, got spanked twice by the Rams, the Eagles used us for a chew toy, we had to struggle to beat a team who we were beating 31-0 and they were on their backup QB, we lost to the Texans while making probably the worst starter in the NFL look like Joe Montana, we struggled to beat a horrible Colts team, and our biggest win came against a team who mailed it in several weeks before. Nothing I've said here is untrue. This was one of the most unimpressive 8-8 seasons in history and all it did was worsen our draft position.

And exactly the point of the thread....we battled our asses off when our team was gutted. 8-8 is what it is. Don't try and devalue a season where we battled every week.

 

[sdscard4]

No, I see reality. The way last season was going, it would have been better to tank instead of winning meaningless games because if we did what was right, we wouldn't be talking about mortgaging our future to move up in this draft.

Unbelievable tank? All credibility lost. Go root for your Eagles

 

[NJCardFan]

Philly(7-9), Minnesota(8-8), NO(7-9) and LA(4-12). Those were their 2016 records. The nfl is a revolving door. No one considered these teams playoff teams let alone championship contenders. Some key FA signings and good draft picks turned that around. Who’s saying we can’t do that and pair them with playmakers like DJ? Anything is possible in today’s NFL

I don't disagree with you in general it's just that this team has some glaring holes to fill with QB being at the top of the list. The Eagles aren't much of a surprise as contenders neither are the Saints as they're always competitive but the Rams and Vikings were surprises.

 

[NJCardFan]

And exactly the point of the thread....we battled our asses off when our team was gutted. 8-8 is what it is. Don't try and devalue a season where we battled every week.

We didn't battle every week. We didn't show up in Detroit, barely showed up in Indy, didn't show up in London, barely beat a very bad 49er team, almost blew a 31 point lead, looked real poor in Houston. I mean Tom Savage had his best game as a pro against us. I mean, he was 106 last year as a starter and his one win was against us. If you're truly honest and look at each game you'd see that we didn't put forth near the effort as you'd think.

 

[Wellthatsjustfine]

Been saying that. If you just read this board you would think we were 0-16

Agreed, although I wish we were 0-16. Darnold would look great in red.