A Rams' Fan's View

[HeavyB3]

Fair warning: The Cards are not running away with the NFCW unchallenged.

You're right. But Seattle is the team we have to worry about.

 

[RamzFanz]

Another mistake. I will argue the most prolific offense would be the team that has scored the most points this season....that would be us.

Next time I will qualify it as including last season. I can't just go off a team for three games against weak defenses and neither should you.

 

[RamzFanz]

The Rams took out Palmer and Stanton last year, costing Arians a playoff run. Don't count out a 50-burger being lit on your grill this weekend. This one is going to be personal.

Protect your QBs. Stop blaming others for the O line failures. We lost Bradford to a tap on the leg in the preseason and I have no idea what team or player did it.

 

[RamzFanz]

What a stupid and disrespectful thing to say. You must really be a 49ers fan.

I ignored him. Thanks for standing up. I would never treat a person that way at Rams On Demand where we welcome opposing fans to educate us on their team. If I did, even as a member in standing, they would not let it pass.

 

[Cheesebeef]

My reality right now is opposing fans making good points where I can say nothing except, just watch, you'll see. Just as I watched the Cards last season knowing the Rams crushed their hopes because you can't win a SB with no QB.

The Rams didn't "crush" our hopes. Carson Palmer's NON-CONTACT ACL tear did.

It sucked. I know. So did my reality when Bradford went down yet again. I doubt you see this, but Cards and Rams would have led the NFCW last season with QBs.

Um... I doubt you realize the Cardinals were leading the NFCW last season... even without QBs until to second to last game of the season. And if your reality was that Bradford was any way shape or form a factor in anything in football, that speaks volumes about where your head's at. Even with Bradford, you were a below average team because Bradford is a below average QB. Foles is a step up to mediocre. The rest of the talent on your offense is either unproven or mediocre.

Everything you just said is an amazing exaggeration of the Rams mistakes in a new system missing key players. That's OK, I get it, the most you know is from the media. I've seen **** in open and closed training camps and practices that will blow your mind when they roll them out.

I wait with baited breath to see the Rams blow anyone's mind on offense. As for "missing key players"... the Cardinals started the season without TWO of their offensive line starters and had their number 1 running back go down in the first game. And what have the Cardinals done with those problems? Scored more points then any team in the first three games in the last 50 years. You can have your mistakes/missing key players excuses... but that's what bad teams do. Make excuses. Good teams overcome those, just as we have this year AND last year.

Fair warning: The Cards are not running away with the NFCW unchallenged.

I agree with your last sentence, but thinking it's the RAMS who are going to be the challenge is again, laughable.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Next time I will qualify it as including last season. I can't just go off a team for three games against weak defenses and neither should you.

okay... let's broaden the scope then from 3 games to the last 18 games Palmer's been healthy. You know what that record is? 16-2. Average point differential is above 10. How's that for reason to "go off" for the Cardinals?

Hell... let's broaden it even further to when Arians took over. This team won 10 games two years ago and won 11 last year (with Palmer only playing 6 games) and are a flavor of the month. This Cardinals team has been building and getting exponentially better every year for THREE years. You guys are basically stuck in the same place you always are... lotta hype... very little to show for it and by the time you DO have something to show for it, they'll probably be playing in Inglewood.

That's reality dude.

 

[RamzFanz]

are you just consciously ignoring that your D plays much better at home than it does on the road? You do realize this is a road game, right?

I'd actually get being as confident as you are if this game was being played in St. Louis. Your squad plays much better ball there, but it's not.

The Rams, last season with almost all the same players, gave up just over 21 points per game average on the road.

That's a misleading statistic though because the D struggled in a new scheme for the first half of the season just as the O is now in a new scheme and missing so many key players. They had 1 sack in the first 5 games.

The second half of the season they gave up just 17 PPG on the road and a 3 point difference, 14 at home. Either number is fine with me.



Did Washington step up and attack the D of the Rams? They sure did. Good on them for figuring it out and committing everything they had. It happens.

Do the Cards have the same 3 TE blockers and plans? I honestly don't know.

I'm not just homering. I couldn't see a win in Pittsburgh and the Rams owned that game if they didn't self destruct. I don't see a win this early against GB in GB. But we have a history and a TON of tape on the Cards and the Cards could very well be over confident.

 

[Dude]

Somebody call Arians! We're in trouble!

C'mon Rams Fan. I appreciate your grades for your teams but to say your offense is 'dangerous" is a bit much. You scored 6 damn points Sunday. By the way that's the same amount your team scored against us last year. We won that game WITHOUT a QB in YOUR house.

I will be surprised a bit myself if we score more than 24 points. But I will be SHOCKED if the Rams score more than 13.

So the Rams are mad because they lost last week? We're mad too. You know why? Because this team felt they left yards and points on the field and have not played up to their capabilities yet. Imagine that?

Foles is going to see defensive formations and coverage's he has never seen before. Welcome to the "No Fly Zone".

In closing I will say this. Could the Rams win this game? Absolutely. For that to happen the Rams will have to play a perfect game and we will have had to lay an egg. If both teams plays to 100% of their ability, there is no doubt the Cardinals win this game.

That is all.

+1

They have the any given day. But that's it.

 

[RamzFanz]

I must admit that the Cards in the Red Zone is not perfect. Although we've scored every time but had to settle for a FG...once.

Yes, but not against a top defense. Amazing at it is, and it is, don't expect to be red zone TDing it all game. Not gonna happen. TONS of yards, several trips to the red zone, almost all field goals. Bend but don't break is what the Rams are 100% set on doing every game.

I THINK the Rams were tied for first in red zone defense last season. Don't quote me. Maybe 2nd?

Based on recent history with the same 1st round pick, DROY, and pro bowl players with a top DC, you're more likely to turn the ball over than score a TD against the Rams in the red zone. Just sayin'.

 

[Brak]

Here's my difference maker: Cards have arguably the best coaching staff in the league. At the very least, top 5 HC & staff.

Rams have Fisher - one of the most overrated coaches in the history of the NFL. Rams won't amount to anything until he's moved on. History tells us so.

May the best team win on Sunday!

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Dude you keep writing so many "ifs". Thr Rams will be lucky to finish 6-10 in this division this year. IF Foles is the answer, the line gets fuxed, and the Rams can afford to pay that Dline, then i will take a look at the Rams again in two years. Oh yeah, and the receivers are hot trash.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Rams, last season with almost all the same players, gave up just over 21 points per game average on the road.

That's a misleading statistic though because the D struggled in a new scheme for the first half of the season just as the O is now in a new scheme and missing so many key players. They had 1 sack in the first 5 games.

The second half of the season they gave up just 17 PPG on the road and a 3 point difference, 14 at home. Either number is fine with me.



Did Washington step up and attack the D of the Rams? They sure did. Good on them for figuring it out and committing everything they had. It happens.

Do the Cards have the same 3 TE blockers and plans? I honestly don't know.

I'm not just homering. I couldn't see a win in Pittsburgh and the Rams owned that game if they didn't self destruct. I don't see a win this early against GB in GB. But we have a history and a TON of tape on the Cards and the Cards could very well be over confident.

I don't see any reason this team is going to be over-confident. They know what the pass-rush the Rams have. They know it's a division game (something Arians has emphasized they must win to take the title) and they know they face 6 of their next 8 on the road. They also have one of the best coaches in football who regularly knocks them down a peg or two.

As for your "history" and ton of tape... that tape says we're 3-1 against you since Arians took over, 3-0 in the last three games to the tune of an average score of 22-8, with your one lone victory coming when the Cards blew a ten point second half lead in your house in Arians first game.

 

[RINGLESS]

My main concern is Aaron Donald more than anybody on that roster. I was reading a PFF article where in the first two weeks he graded a +18. Higher than JJ Watt ever did in his career so far. In fact Aaron Donald at this pace is on pace to be the most dominant interior DL ever according to them.

I do feel that our offense, doesnt match up well with the strength of the Rams defense. We have slower developing route trees and are more of a big play offense. I think this week we will have to focus on the run. Screens, and quick passes like the one we hit John Brown in on the quick inside slant route last week to offset the strength of the Defense. We have a very strong offense and over the course of the game we will get the points necessary.

The offense really isn't that intimating at this point. In saying that I think it will be a low scoring game. 17-13 Cardinals.

We are at home, and playing on Natural Grass, which both are in our favor as well.

 

[RamzFanz]

The hawks scored 31 on the Rams.... come on, man. It's cool you are optimistic about your team, but your pro-Rams arguments are incredibly myopic.

The Hawks offense only scored 18. Did the Rams let a very rare punt return get by? Yep. That dude, Lockett, is good. DON'T sleep him when you play him. Did they let the Hawks very good D score on them? Sure. Did they shut down Lynch, Wilson, and the rest? Yes we did. With a vengeance.

By the way, we also scored 27 with our offense and 34 overall. You do know the Hawks lost, yes?

Optimistic? Damn straight. We are LOADED with unrecognized talent, just as the Cards were last season. The Rams will be exploding after the bye and chasing down the Cards for the NFCW title IF we can pull off a win this week and have the tie advantage.

 

[NoelPHX]

I see one person in this thread who is really over confident and its not a cardinals fan. Rams aren't the bottom of the barrel any longer but the Cards will win this at home.

 

[Jake6233]

The Hawks offense only scored 18. Did the Rams let a very rare punt return get by? Yep. That dude, Lockett, is good. DON'T sleep him when you play him. Did they let the Hawks very good D score on them? Sure. Did they shut down Lynch, Wilson, and the rest? Yes we did. With a vengeance.

By the way, we also scored 27 with our offense and 34 overall. You do know the Hawks lost, yes?

Optimistic? Damn straight. We are LOADED with unrecognized talent, just as the Cards were last season. The Rams will be exploding after the bye and chasing down the Cards for the NFCW title IF we can pull off a win this week and have the tie advantage.

Rams fans say the same thing every year. Let me ask this, If the rams are absolutely loaded with talent on both sides of the ball why did they lose to an awful redskins team by two touchdowns and why did you they only score 6 points against the steelers?

Until the rams actually show this "supposed potential" on the field for more than one game (ie seahawks win this year, broncos win in 2014, colts win in 2013) than its hard to give them much of a chance to be of real consequence in this division.

 

[ajcardfan]

The Hawks offense only scored 18. Did the Rams let a very rare punt return get by? Yep. That dude, Lockett, is good. DON'T sleep him when you play him. Did they let the Hawks very good D score on them? Sure. Did they shut down Lynch, Wilson, and the rest? Yes we did. With a vengeance.

By the way, we also scored 27 with our offense and 34 overall. You do know the Hawks lost, yes?

Optimistic? Damn straight. We are LOADED with unrecognized talent, just as the Cards were last season. The Rams will be exploding after the bye and chasing down the Cards for the NFCW title IF we can pull off a win this week and have the tie advantage.

I know what happened in the game. You didn't completely throttle their offense.

We have scored TD on both defense special teams. Sure, your team could win on Sunday. That's the NFL. But you are spouting total homerisms. Whatever, I'm not scared of losing because of your asinine opinions and arguments. If we lose it's because any NFl team can beat another on a given Sunday.

 

[D-Dogg]

35-6

And it won't be that close.

 

[TJ]

Easy cliff notes breakdown of the Rams team:

~ young, but talented QB transitioning into an entirely new offense, but has no receivers with which to work
~ RBs are so-so. The ROI for Gurley won't be seen until next season after he gets legit practice time and exposure to the speed of the NFL
~ O-Line is a disaster. Like five Levi Browns disaster
~ D-Line is the truth. Can get pressure with only rushing four guys
~ Linebackers are talented
~ Secondary is incredibly mediocre and susceptible to the deep ball
~ Overrated head coach and a dirty DC who shouldn't even be in the league anymore.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I will let Vegas make my argument for me.

Cards are currently a 6 point favorite but I am guessing it closes at 7.5.

Cards are 3-0 against the spread. Rams are 1-2

Not only will you not win, you will not cover.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

And just to compare 2014, the Cards were 6-2 at home against the spread and the Rams were 4-4

You don't play well on the road.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Along those lines, since 2007 the Cardinals are third in the NFL as a home team (behind Seattle and Green Bay) at covering at home (41-28).

This isn't their record, but their ability to exceed Vegas' expectations at home.

St Louis is 3rd from last at 29-36 on the road

Now I get to tell you that since 2007 you are the second worst team at covering as an underdog. This means when you are expected to stink, you really stink.

 

[RamzFanz]

I'll go ahead and say welcome to the board for the week. The forum isn't just for like minded people to sit in a circle and pat each other on the back, it's for intelligent discussion. You are the first Rams fan here this year, and I'm sure you'll be followed by less erudite fellow fans.

The Rams D Line is stacked, of course. Some young but occasionally flashy offensive skill position guys. A linebacker or two. It's a decent framework to build on, but the O isn't going anywhere without an O Line and Fisher is a mediocre coach. He knows his X's and O's but no one is running through a wall for him.

Your team's problem this week is they are running into a Cardinals team that is firing on all cylinders at the same time. Strong O, strong D, great leadership, depth, and coaching. Good luck, and no injuries, but it's looking like this is our year.

You people are killing me. I pride myself on a wide vocabulary, even though I don't employ it on opposing fan forums for fear of looking arrogant and disparaging to the general public, but this is the third time I've had to look up a word. Damn straight! Nice!

Thanks for the word and the compliment. I'm humbled.

Fisher may suck. I will give you that. His proof otherwise, despite his playoff and SB appearances (irony that the GSOT beat him with a D tackle on the 2 yard line), will be this season. This is a complete rebuild. Top to bottom. And the youngest team in the NFL 4 seasons running.

Nothing that we saw from the Rams since Fisher arrived is relevant because it's all changed. Almost everything. This season, this team, this staff, is ALL his now.

I watched the Rams jump from the worst team ever for a decade and at 2 wins, to 7 wins WITH a QB, to 7 and 6 wins with no QB. His biggest mistake was Bradford, but it was a gamble he had to take. He had a stinking heap of other fish to fry and good QBs are rare.

I can make excuses for him all day long because he inherited a stinking pile of ****. This is his team and it will either erupt after the bye now that the rebuild is complete, or he will take the blame, and that's fair.

Are the Cards hot? Damn straight. I LOVE me some Cards. It's like Cold beer, BBQ, and a BJ. That **** you dropped on the Niners...seriously...I misted up. No team or fans have ever deserved a beat down like that in the history of the NFL. Do it to Seattle like Rams did, and I will be sobbing in joy.

Does that mean they can beat the Rams? Yes and no or, perhaps or, it depends. The Rams D is so under estimated because they were developing their secondary, it's just disrespectful. This isn't a D line and a line backer or two, like you said. Not even close. Ogletree just had the best tackling game in the NFL, ever, if I recall correctly. James Laurinaitis just set the Rams all time tackle record.

Rams D stats will never reflect who they are. They play bend but don't break, so the yards they give up destroy their stats, but they don't break often and that's all that counts. Yards aren't awarded points in the NFL. If you don't score, yards are a meaningless stat.

We lost our star former rookie Gaines in the preseason. It sucks. With him, the Rams secondary, and I mean this, may be the best in the NFL. I know nobody in the media ever says Jenkins, Gaines, Johnson, McDonald, or McLeod, but they are idiots. Jenkins can shut down any receiver in the NFL if he isn't required to think too hard. Johnson is damned good. The McSafeties, as we call them, will deliver season ending hits if you screw up and let them at you.

Donald, DROY and pro bowler with just 11 starts, is making JJ Watts take a back seat this season. I kid you not. He's so damn freaking good, Quinn, one of the best DEs in the NFL is being overlooked. How do you overlook Quinn for god's sake?!? Donald.

The rest of the Rams D line would be stars on almost all other teams. There is NO rotation the Cards will like.

THIS IS NOT FLUFF or homerism or hope. This team is built to win. This storm is coming soon just like the Cards. May the best team win.

Good luck, and no injuries, but it's looking like this is our year.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You are 1-2, have already lost at home, have a -17 point differential, are tied for the second worst total TDs in the NFL (5)...the season is 1/5th the way over and this is your year....

Man the rest of your years must have really sucked.

 

[Jake6233]

You people are killing me. I pride myself on a wide vocabulary, even though I don't employ it on opposing fan forums for fear of looking arrogant and disparaging to the general public, but this is the third time I've had to look up a word. Damn straight! Nice!

Thanks for the word and the compliment. I'm humbled.

Fisher may suck. I will give you that. His proof otherwise, despite his playoff and SB appearances (irony that the GSOT beat him with a D tackle on the 2 yard line), will be this season. This is a complete rebuild. Top to bottom. And the youngest team in the NFL 4 seasons running.

Nothing that we saw from the Rams since Fisher arrived is relevant because it's all changed. Almost everything. This season, this team, this staff, is ALL his now.

I watched the Rams jump from the worst team ever for a decade and at 2 wins, to 7 wins WITH a QB, to 7 and 6 wins with no QB. His biggest mistake was Bradford, but it was a gamble he had to take. He had a stinking heap of other fish to fry and good QBs are rare.

I can make excuses for him all day long because he inherited a stinking pile of ****. This is his team and it will either erupt after the bye now that the rebuild is complete, or he will take the blame, and that's fair.

Are the Cards hot? Damn straight. I LOVE me some Cards. It's like Cold beer, BBQ, and a BJ. That **** you dropped on the Niners...seriously...I misted up. No team or fans have ever deserved a beat down like that in the history of the NFL. Do it to Seattle like Rams did, and I will be sobbing in joy.

Does that mean they can beat the Rams? Yes and no or, perhaps or, it depends. The Rams D is so under estimated because they were developing their secondary, it's just disrespectful. This isn't a D line and a line backer or two, like you said. Not even close. Ogletree just had the best tackling game in the NFL, ever, if I recall correctly. James Laurinaitis just set the Rams all time tackle record.

Rams D stats will never reflect who they are. They play bend but don't break, so the yards they give up destroy their stats, but they don't break often and that's all that counts. Yards aren't awarded points in the NFL. If you don't score, yards are a meaningless stat.

We lost our star former rookie Gaines in the preseason. It sucks. With him, the Rams secondary, and I mean this, may be the best in the NFL. I know nobody in the media ever says Jenkins, Gaines, Johnson, McDonald, or McLeod, but they are idiots. Jenkins can shut down any receiver in the NFL if he isn't required to think too hard. Johnson is damned good. The McSafeties, as we call them, will deliver season ending hits if you screw up and let them at you.

Donald, DROY and pro bowler with just 11 starts, is making JJ Watts take a back seat this season. I kid you not. He's so damn freaking good, Quinn, one of the best DEs in the NFL is being overlooked. How do you overlook Quinn for god's sake?!? Donald.

The rest of the Rams D line would be stars on almost all other teams. There is NO rotation the Cards will like.

THIS IS NOT FLUFF or homerism or hope. This team is built to win. This storm is coming soon just like the Cards. May the best team win.

Good luck, and no injuries, but it's looking like this is our year.

You have to be trolling with a comment like that. Really a 1-2 start and a two touchdown loss to the Redskins to boot yet its you're year. Ok then.