Aaron Curry on the block -- Cardinals reportedly have made an offer

[AzStevenCal]

Speaking of Dansby, how do you think he likes leading his bunch of winners this year?

They'll bounce back. According to Henne none of those guys in the locker room are going to stop quitting.

Steve

 

[Treefiddy]

They'll bounce back. According to Henne none of those guys in the locker room are going to stop quitting.

Steve

That's like the start of an onion article. Why would any QB say differently?

 

[Russ Smith]

If Seattle would actually trade him within their own division, he's probably not someone we would want at this point.

Usually you want to get inside scoop on an opponent, but one of the reasons he got benched supposedly was he doesn't know his assignments. So getting him probably wouldn't help at all against Seattle.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't think he's an ILB he's an OLB that failed to get sacks. If you read this
http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...ebackers_struggle_as_high_draft_picks/?page=1

apparently NFL Gm's think so too, one even suggested Curry should move to DE.

He's one of those better athlete than player guys right now. Interesting discussion about how he and Hawk made few big plays in college and got overrated on tackle stats.

 

[Waysouth]

Cards are going to need three replacement LBs next year. Why not start now? Lennon, Porter and Haggins all expire and are old. Put Scho and Acho in the starting lineup. Bring in Curry for a future replacement of Lennon. I'd like to see Everette Brown in here replacing Porter (cut). Then try to grab Upshaw out of Alabama in the draft.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Cards are going to need three replacement LBs next year. Why not start now? Lennon, Porter and Haggins all expire and are old. Put Scho and Acho in the starting lineup. Bring in Curry for a future replacement of Lennon. I'd like to see Everette Brown in here replacing Porter (cut). Then try to grab Upshaw out of Alabama in the draft.

Good points...

LENON

 

[Bodha]

Cards are going to need three replacement LBs next year. Why not start now? Lennon, Porter and Haggins all expire and are old. Put Scho and Acho in the starting lineup. Bring in Curry for a future replacement of Lennon. I'd like to see Everette Brown in here replacing Porter (cut). Then try to grab Upshaw out of Alabama in the draft.

Future LBs:

D. Wash ILB

Stewart Bradley ILB - you guys forget hes here and isnt a '1 year deal' guy. He is planned to be a starter, fundamental part of our D. He has the ability and will be very good for us ocne he gets a hold of the 3-4 D. whenever that may be.

OLB- Scho or Acho. Scho hasnt shown anything yet. Im still a big supporter but eventually hes going to need to put up sacks in order to verify his future OLB status.
- Also, Acho is not elite. He never was. He was a steal in the draft and a very good player, but hes not Von Miller. Hes not going to be a difference maker. Hes a very good depth guy. possbile starter. but not game changer.

OLB -TBD, let you know after the next draft.

 

[Duckjake]

Cards are going to need three replacement LBs next year. Why not start now? Lennon, Porter and Haggins all expire and are old. Put Scho and Acho in the starting lineup. Bring in Curry for a future replacement of Lennon. I'd like to see Everette Brown in here replacing Porter (cut). Then try to grab Upshaw out of Alabama in the draft.

I've always wondered why coaches will continue to lose with older players while younger talent sits on the bench.

It always cracks me up when a coach whose team is 2-7 says well they (the older guys) give us a better chance to win.

 

[kerouac9]

Cards are going to need three replacement LBs next year. Why not start now? Lennon, Porter and Haggins all expire and are old. Put Scho and Acho in the starting lineup. Bring in Curry for a future replacement of Lennon. I'd like to see Everette Brown in here replacing Porter (cut). Then try to grab Upshaw out of Alabama in the draft.

Lenon has a year left on his deal after this one. Haggans remains our most consistent linebacker (including Washington). Even when Lenon leaves/retires, Stewart Bradley is there to step in.

There's a reason Everette Brown is applying for unemployment compensation right now.

 

[Duckjake]

Lenon has a year left on his deal after this one. Haggans remains our most consistent linebacker (including Washington). Even when Lenon leaves/retires, Stewart Bradley is there to step in.

There's a reason Everette Brown is applying for unemployment compensation right now.

Stewart Bradley might step in but he'll miss the tackle. From what I've seen so far if the Cards are counting on that guy as a long term fix at SILB we're in trouble.

 

[40yearfan]

I've always wondered why coaches will continue to lose with older players while younger talent sits on the bench.

It always cracks me up when a coach whose team is 2-7 says well they (the older guys) give us a better chance to win.

We are going to play the older guys for the first half of the season and wear them out. Then we will put the fresh young guys in there. The plan is to win one or two games during the first half and win all 8 games during the last half. That way we should make the play-offs.

 

[kerouac9]

Stewart Bradley might step in but he'll miss the tackle. From what I've seen so far if the Cards are counting on that guy as a long term fix at SILB we're in trouble.

Meh. At that point you sign Lenon to a two-year extension and put him on the Haggans plan.

SILB isn't an impact position. After signing Bradley for big(ish) money and then saying his an ILB, then we'll use him in the pass rush, and now planting him on the bench, he's kind of Aaron Curry in fast-forward.

 

[Duckjake]

Meh. At that point you sign Lenon to a two-year extension and put him on the Haggans plan.

SILB isn't an impact position. After signing Bradley for big(ish) money and then saying his an ILB, then we'll use him in the pass rush, and now planting him on the bench, he's kind of Aaron Curry in fast-forward.

ILB isn't an impact position in a 3-4 but the Cards aren't running a 3-4. They are running a 4-2-5 with two 34 year old 240lb Defensive Ends. That makes ILB a critical position.

Are you really saying that you think Lenon/Bradley and Washington are the long term solutions at ILB for the Cardinals after all the time you have spent criticizing the team for having Washington at ILB? Or are you saying that is what the Cardinals will do?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Future LBs:

D. Wash ILB

Stewart Bradley ILB - you guys forget hes here and isnt a '1 year deal' guy. He is planned to be a starter, fundamental part of our D. He has the ability and will be very good for us ocne he gets a hold of the 3-4 D. whenever that may be.

OLB- Scho or Acho. Scho hasnt shown anything yet. Im still a big supporter but eventually hes going to need to put up sacks in order to verify his future OLB status.
- Also, Acho is not elite. He never was. He was a steal in the draft and a very good player, but hes not Von Miller. Hes not going to be a difference maker. Hes a very good depth guy. possbile starter. but not game changer.

OLB -TBD, let you know after the next draft.

I have no idea what you could be basing that on. The guys has shown nothing.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I thin Scho has shown plenty and there is no reason he shouldn't be starting now...I think Whis is just blindly loyal to Porter-Potty (yes, that is what I call him now due to playing like...well, you know.)

 

[kerouac9]

ILB isn't an impact position in a 3-4 but the Cards aren't running a 3-4. They are running a 4-2-5 with two 34 year old 240lb Defensive Ends. That makes ILB a critical position.

Are you really saying that you think Lenon/Bradley and Washington are the long term solutions at ILB for the Cardinals after all the time you have spent criticizing the team for having Washington at ILB? Or are you saying that is what the Cardinals will do?

I'm saying that's what the Cards will do. You're not paying Bradley $5 million a year to sit on the bench or be a sub-package player (well, we are right now, but that's because we're stupid and overpaid for a talented but troubled ILB in a market saturated with veteran players).

If I were in charge I'd bump Whis's salary by $50K per year and take away personnel authority from his contract, fire Horton, install a Tampa-2 DC and run a Tampa-2 with Schofield and Campbell as the ends with Dan Williams and Dockett as the tackles. If Schofield works out, peaches; if not we'll draft someone in the 1st and sign D'Brickashaw Ferguson in free agency.

Unfortunately, instead we're going to let Calais Campbell walk in free agency and replace him with Aaron Smith from--- wait for it....

...hold on...

...it's totally going to be worth it...

...almost there...

the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Next year's free agency list at both OT and OLB makes me cry. Mario Williams is apparently a pending FA (according to KFFL). If he doesn't get 12 sacks as an OLB in Houston, I'd throw $125 million at him and really install a Tampa-2.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I have no idea what you could be basing that on. The guys has shown nothing.

Well, I saw him come up, take on the right guard and plug the hole head-on last weekend.

 

[Dayman]

Most of Bradley's issues don't seem scheme based. There were multiple times over the last two weeks where he read the play correctly, but then he just whiffed on the tackle. He's also getting engulfed by blocks entirely too easily. Paris Lenon never played in a 3-4 before he came here, but he ran with the starters right away when Hayes couldn't go last year. I don't see why Bradley should be any different.

The reality is that Bradley had one productive season in 2008 playing on a loaded defense in a different scheme, and he's done very little since. I liked the signing when it happened, but after what I've watched so far, I'm not expecting a whole lot.

 

[Duckjake]

I'm saying that's what the Cards will do. You're not paying Bradley $5 million a year to sit on the bench or be a sub-package player (well, we are right now, but that's because we're stupid and overpaid for a talented but troubled ILB in a market saturated with veteran players).

If I were in charge I'd bump Whis's salary by $50K per year and take away personnel authority from his contract, fire Horton, install a Tampa-2 DC and run a Tampa-2 with Schofield and Campbell as the ends with Dan Williams and Dockett as the tackles. If Schofield works out, peaches; if not we'll draft someone in the 1st and sign D'Brickashaw Ferguson in free agency.

Unfortunately, instead we're going to let Calais Campbell walk in free agency and replace him with Aaron Smith from--- wait for it....

...hold on...

...it's totally going to be worth it...

...almost there...

the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Next year's free agency list at both OT and OLB makes me cry. Mario Williams is apparently a pending FA (according to KFFL). If he doesn't get 12 sacks as an OLB in Houston, I'd throw $125 million at him and really install a Tampa-2.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2792104

You gotta love the Cardinals.

 

[Dayman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2792104

You gotta love the Cardinals.

Holt is Arizona's second free agent acquisition this year. The Cardinals earlier signed ex-Dallas center Al Johnson to a four-year, $17.5 million deal with $7 million guaranteed.

We really nailed free agency that year, didn't we?

 

[SuperSpck]

Do not believe anything on that All Sports Intel feed! From what I can tell, he reports what he feels are good ideas as news.

Oh, so he's gonna do what the guy from PFT does until he somehow gets enough sources and becomes semi-legit?
It's a brave new media out there...

I don't think he's an ILB, he's an OLB that failed to get sacks.

I liked the article, thanks. For AZ he'd be an WILB ala Washington. Great for depth, but what the team needs is a pass rusher. He's not it. Still, if the price is right (like a 4th round pick) bring him in.

ILB isn't an impact position in a 3-4 but the Cards aren't running a 3-4. They are running a 4-2-5 with two 34 year old 240lb Defensive Ends. That makes ILB a critical position.

I really hate that formation. The way the team is playing I'd be happier with a 4 down set with CC and Dock at end and some large meat in the middle. There may be a lack of consistent pressure, but they have to go to such lengths to manufacture it, I'd rather take the chances playing man-up press with help over the top.

If I were in charge I'd bump Whis's salary by $50K per year and take away personnel authority from his contract, fire Horton, install a Tampa-2 DC and run a Tampa-2

The one thing I've never gotten about most NFL coaches: They seem more interested in forcing their pieces to fit the puzzle, instead of maximizing the way their pieces fit together.
NE Bill seems great at doing it the right way.

 

[Assface]

If I were in charge I'd bump Whis's salary by $50K per year and take away personnel authority from his contract, fire Horton, install a Tampa-2 DC and run a Tampa-2 with Schofield and Campbell as the ends with Dan Williams and Dockett as the tackles. If Schofield works out, peaches; if not we'll draft someone in the 1st and sign D'Brickashaw Ferguson in free agency.

+1

When I look at the personnel on this defense I see DD and Williams as Sapp/McFarland, Washington filling the role of Derrick Brooks and AW as Lynch. The team is already trying to stock up on corners who can tackle and play zone anyway. The defense as it is right now is square peg + round hole.

 

[Assface]

I really hate that formation. The way the team is playing I'd be happier with a 4 down set with CC and Dock at end and some large meat in the middle. There may be a lack of consistent pressure, but they have to go to such lengths to manufacture it, I'd rather take the chances playing man-up press with help over the top.

My favorite formation has always been when we put in the smaller linemen in short yardage situations. 3rd and 1? No, Gabe Watson, we'll put in Bryan Robinson and maybe and extra linebacker.

 

[SuperSpck]

My favorite formation has always been when we put in the smaller linemen in short yardage situations. 3rd and 1? No, Gabe Watson, we'll put in Bryan Robinson and maybe and extra linebacker.

There's something I'd love to know: why do they do stuff like that?
Coaches constantly seem to be outsmarting themselves.
Forest and trees?

 

[Bodha]

I have no idea what you could be basing that on. The guys has shown nothing.

Im basing it on his 5 year 30 million dollar contract.


And chill out, 'hes shown nothing yet', yeah hes learning a new system. Hes literally retraining his brain to react in a different way. Be like forcing yourself to not blink if an objects coming at your face.

ITs taking longer than expected, but so be it. I doubt hed be the difference maker in the games weve lost so far anyways. Bradley is a great player. You just need to be patient. He is very valuable to us.