According to David Aldridge - The Suns may shop James Jones around.

[JS22]

Watching TNT, and David Aldridge "claims" that the Suns are looking to shop James Jones around, as they'd like to extend Diaw and Barbosa.

I will be extremely dissapointed if the Suns trade JR. He's definitely one of my favorite players, and is rapidly improving this season.

 

[The Commish]

Watching TNT, and David Aldridge "claims" that the Suns are looking to shop James Jones around, as they'd like to extend Diaw and Barbosa.

I will be extremely dissapointed if the Suns trade JR. He's definitely one of my favorite players, and is rapidly improving this season.

Yeah I heard that. I was like WTF? He's young and cheap. I don't buy this one bit.

 

[F-Dog]

LOL, that's what I get for stepping away from my computer for a moment

 

[nathan]

It didn't sound like he had any real inside information. It was speculation.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

It didn't sound like he had any real inside information. It was speculation.

Exactly. And if the suns are really looking to trim some salary, he really is the only person that would fit unless it was a major deal.

I really don't think it will happen though. They can extend both players, then have another year before their contracts kick in to figure out salary. At that point I would assume they would look more at moving Thomas.

 

[hsandhu]

Man, I was actaully happy about that report. The main thing I got from it was that they are very intent on not letting diaw and barbosa go anywhere.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I'm confused.

If they're looking to extend Diaw and Barbosa, and are looking for money to do it, how is Jones's reasonably paltry ass salary going to cause the Suns from proceding on?

DA is usually on with his "rumors" but I'm truly hoping this one is a pile of crap.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Man, I was actaully happy about that report. The main thing I got from it was that they are very intent on not letting diaw and barbosa go anywhere.

They should lock all three of them up.

 

[Amare32]

I don't see JJ going anywhere. His shooting has been key this year and he is one of the cheapest guys on the team.

 

[TucsonDevil]

I'm confused.

If they're looking to extend Diaw and Barbosa, and are looking for money to do it, how is Jones's reasonably paltry ass salary going to cause the Suns from proceding on

My thoughts exactly when I heard that What is his salary again? I thought is was about 2 million - is that really enough to extend these players?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

They should lock all three of them up.

They have Jones under contract for the next four years, at roughly 2.6 million dollars per, or 11 million overall.

It's not a hindering contract by ANY means.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

They have Jones under contract for the next four years, at roughly 2.6 million dollars per, or 11 million overall.

It's not a hindering contract by ANY means.

While I agree, 2.5 million is still 2.5 million. And if we become a tax payer that is going to be 5 million.

As it stands, the Suns are going to be at about 60 million next season. That is before they sign their draft picks and possibly resigning House.

To be honest, I expect House to be gone (unless he takes a major discount) - and possibly 1 of our picks to be moved....or both combined for a higher pick.

Then I would assume we keep Jones, extend both Boris and Leandro. Then after next season we trade Thomas and his expiring contract right before their extensions kick in.

You know the Suns will want to start a front court of Marion/Diaw/Amare anyways, and hopefully a couple of the 4 first rounders we have in the next 2 drafts would shore up the front line.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

While I agree, 2.5 million is still 2.5 million. And if we become a tax payer that is going to be 5 million.

As it stands, the Suns are going to be at about 60 million next season. That is before they sign their draft picks and possibly resigning House.

To be honest, I expect House to be gone (unless he takes a major discount) - and possibly 1 of our picks to be moved....or both combined for a higher pick.

Then I would assume we keep Jones, extend both Boris and Leandro. Then after next season we trade Thomas and his expiring contract right before their extensions kick in.

You know the Suns will want to start a front court of Marion/Diaw/Amare anyways, and hopefully a couple of the 4 first rounders we have in the next 2 drafts would shore up the front line.

For those interested, here's what the Sun salaries look like for the next four seasons.. Just intended for those interested. Current Year through 2009 included.

Shawn Marion

2005/'06
$13,770,000

2006/'07
$15,070,000

2007/08
$16,440,000

2008/09
$17,180,000


Steve Nash

2005/'06
$9,625,000

2006/07
$10,500,000

07/08
$11,375,000

08/09
$12,250,000

Kurt Thomas

05/06
$6,620,062

06/07
$7,355,625

07/08
$8,091,187


Raja Bell

05/06
$4,250,000

06/07
$4,500,000

07/08
$4,750,000

08/09
$5,000,000

Jim Jackson

05/06
$2,640,000

Amare Stoudemire

05/06
$2,589,022

06-07
$12,000,000

07/08
$13,260,000

08/09
$14,520,000

James Jones

05/06
$2,400,000

06/07
$2,652,000

07/08
$2,904,000

08-09
$3,156,000

Boris Diaw

05-06
$1,127,280

06-07 *
$1,795,757

07-08 *
$2,587,685

Brian Grant

05/06
$1,670,000

Leandrinho Barbosa

05/06
$930,600

06/07 *
$1,679,733

07/08 *
$2,502,802

Eddie House

05/06
$835,810

06/07 *
$932,015

Pat Burke

05/06
$750,000

Nikoloz Tskitishvili

05/06
$745,248

06/07
$798,112

Dijon Thompson

05/06
$398,762

Jared Reiner

05/06
$221,046

Sharrod Ford

05/06
$106,336

Josh Davis

05/06
$39,965

Howard Eisley

05/06
$5,600,000

How the hell he's still on the books is beyond me.

So, this season the Suns loop the contracts of Grant, Eisley, Jackson, Burke, Davis, Ford and Reiner off the books.

How much do you suppose House will command on the market? In my opinion, he might realize the grass isn't greener on the other side and sign a reasonably fair deal, which would allow them to keep Jones, and re-sign Barbosa and Diaw. I'm also wondering what those two feel they're worth on the market.

As for the stars, it's used to indicate those numbers are the qualifiying offer numbers.

 

[sly fly]

Aldridge also mentioned that James Jones was being mentioned in a swap for Jared Jefferies.

 

[elindholm]

Aldridge also mentioned that James Jones was being mentioned in a swap for Jared Jefferies.

Darn it! Someone beat me to that joke.

I know that most of this board loves House, but if the Suns are thinking about moving Jones partly because it will make it easier to keep House, I think that's just stupid beyond belief. I would much rather have Jones than House under any circumstances, and twice on Sundays, as the saying goes.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Why would the Suns break up their team chemistry and trade one of their best reserve players?

I normally trust Aldridge, but this just doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense to me.

 

[JS22]

Aldridge also mentioned that James Jones was being mentioned in a swap for Jared Jefferies.

Darn it! Someone beat me to that joke.

I know that most of this board loves House, but if the Suns are thinking about moving Jones partly because it will make it easier to keep House, I think that's just stupid beyond belief. I would much rather have Jones than House under any circumstances, and twice on Sundays, as the saying goes.

I agree.

 

[jbeecham]

I can see them dumping Jimmy Jackson for a 2nd rd pick, but not moving James Jones.

 

[George O'Brien]

I find claims the Suns are shopping a player other than Jackson to be "odd". The Suns are awfully good at keeping their plans secret. There was absolutely no warning prior to the Marbury trade to give an example.

I think it is possible that other teams have inquired about Jones. Jones is showing enough talent that teams with poor outside shooting might think he could become a starter - but obviously not on the Suns. However, anyone who thinks the Suns would dump him just for cap space is being dilusional.

 

[Chaz]

I don't think they should trade Jones.

He is a perfect player to space the floor once Amare is back.

Moving Jones won't clear up much cap space anyway.


Sounds more like The Suns were trying to trade Jackson and Jones was asked about. If the Suns didn't immediately say NO then DA can say they were entertaining the idea.

 

[George O'Brien]

I don't think they should trade Jones.

He is a perfect player to space the floor once Amare is back.

Moving Jones won't clear up much cap space anyway.


Sounds more like The Suns were trying to trade Jackson and Jones was asked about. If the Suns didn't immediately say NO then DA can say they were entertaining the idea.

Combined they would be enough for a $5 million plus player, but that would mean more salaries.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I am pretty sure Grant has a TO for next season. That would put us at around 60 million for the year.

 

[Ollie]

Howard Eisley

05/06
$5,600,000

How the hell he's still on the books is beyond me.

The Suns have bought him out and the numbers still count against the cap 'til the end of the contract, in case you're wondering.

And the whole idea of trading James Jones doesn't make much sense for me, excepted if he's packaged with some useless/disgruntled players and/or picks for another guy. But I can't see how that will help to re-sign Diaw and Barbosa, though

 

[scotsman13]

The Suns have bought him out and the numbers still count against the cap 'til the end of the contract, in case you're wondering.

no, he does. we used the allen houston rule on him this summer. so he doesnt count against the salery cap.

 

[George O'Brien]

no, he does. we used the allen houston rule on him this summer. so he doesnt count against the salery cap.

Not quite. He doesn't count for the luxury tax but does count when it comes to cap space for signing free agents - which is irrelevant for the Suns.