Amare Ought to be Embarassed

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Nash has been just as bad as Amare.

That really isn't true. Nash's effort was still there; he's just getting manhandled in the more "physical" game of the playoffs, the same way he has his entire career. Stoudemire's lack of effort was palpable from 500 miles away.
 

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Yea apparently Nash getting 15 assists isn't enough. The guy is 36 years old and still playing MVP caliber at the point in the NBA and it isn't enough. Some of you people are just too much. Amare and Frye burned us in this game. No one else. Without Nash, I can just imagine what Amare's scoring average would be.
 
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The same idiots who were claiming that Amare was only playing well because he wants a big contract are now complaining that he isn't playing well? What do you want from the guy?

Why do Marion and Amare get so much blame on this board, but Nash never gets any? Nash has been just as bad as Amare.

Where have you been? There are several posters that blame Nash for everything under the sun. You can't go through one of the game threads without reading a dozen or more Nash bashing posts. Also, Nash has had some of his worst games ever during the 2nd half of this season but injuries have clearly contributed to his problems.

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That really isn't true. Nash's effort was still there; he's just getting manhandled in the more "physical" game of the playoffs, the same way he has his entire career. Stoudemire's lack of effort was palpable from 500 miles away.

Who cares how hard he's trying? He hasn't been very good.

You're right though, I can't stand watching this defense that Fisher is playing. It seems like they Lakers are daring the refs to call a foul on every play.
 

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Where have you been? There are several posters that blame Nash for everything under the sun. You can't go through one of the game threads without reading a dozen or more Nash bashing posts. Also, Nash has had some of his worst games ever during the 2nd half of this season but injuries have clearly contributed to his problems.

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Yes Nash has the injury and age excuse and Amare has no excuses.

Cool Nash had a bunch of Assists. He also had terrible turnovers and defense. Amare had a bunch of points last game. They both sucked.
 

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Yea apparently Nash getting 15 assists isn't enough. The guy is 36 years old and still playing MVP caliber at the point in the NBA and it isn't enough.

MVP? Is the voting weighted by inverse age?
 

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Who cares how hard he's trying? He hasn't been very good.

You're right though, I can't stand watching this defense that Fisher is playing. It seems like they Lakers are daring the refs to call a foul on every play.

Trust me, Nash is the least of our problems. Even with being suffocated out there, he still dishes the ball where it's supposed to go. Yes, the turnovers are annoying, but he more than makes up for it. At least the dude is putting in effort and not making any excuses. Nash is still the leader of this team.
 

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I'm also getting sick of this 'goggle up/down' business at free throws aswell.

LEAVE EM ON!!

Kobe got an offensive rebound and launched a three pointer right in Amare's grill because he saw that Amare was pulling his goggles down as he was closing out on him.
 

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Yes Nash has the injury and age excuse and Amare has no excuses.

Cool Nash had a bunch of Assists. He also had terrible turnovers and defense. Amare had a bunch of points last game. They both sucked.

I don't know that either player is making us happy but nothing infuriates us more than a perceived lack of effort. The next time you can seriously accuse Nash of a lack of effort let us know.

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Trust me, Nash is the least of our problems. Even with being suffocated out there, he still dishes the ball where it's supposed to go. Yes, the turnovers are annoying, but he more than makes up for it. At least the dude is putting in effort and not making any excuses. Nash is still the leader of this team.

All true... but you failed to mention that he is also killing us in this series. The only way we would have a shot against LA is if we were getting 25 points from the point. Nash is not even a legit offensive threat. He is still a great passer, but that's it... he can't even push the ball up the court with any serious pace any longer.
The Lakers are not at all concerned with Nash in terms of shooting. And what's worse, Steve still can't get off any shots. He can't create. He's nothing offensively. This puts HUGE amounts of pressure on the rest of the team.
Further, this would be workable if we were getting bigtime contributions from J-Rich. The Lakers are able to keep Artest on J-Rich full time. Artest never has to concern himself with Nash... It's painful to watch...
 

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To lose with effort is okay, to lose like we did tonight is embarrasing. Goodnight folks.
 

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I'm getting the impression you're a bit of an Amare homer.

If homer means that I don't believe that he is playing like crap because he plans on going to Miami, then I guess that's what I am.
 

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Richardson was the Suns' leading scorer with 27. How many more do we need?


More... actually, 27 should be enough.... but, in the 4th quarter when it matters most, without even the slightest threat from Nash of scoring, how many of those 27 did J-Rich have??
 

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stupid people don't get embarassed by anything they do. that's one of the things that makes them stupid.
 

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If homer means that I don't believe that he is playing like crap because he plans on going to Miami, then I guess that's what I am.

Well, most people here don't believe the going to Miami bit. Are you happy with Amare over the last 14 games? Are you content with the fact that he is scoring and rebounding at a significantly lower rate than he usually does in the postseason. Are you pleased that he looks like a shadow of the player he was in March? If so, you should probably just blame Nash for all our troubles.

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Well, most people here don't believe the going to Miami bit. Are you happy with Amare over the last 14 games? Are you content with the fact that he is scoring and rebounding at a significantly lower rate than he usually does in the postseason. Are you pleased that he looks like a shadow of the player he was in March? If so, you should probably just blame Nash for all our troubles.

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Whoa... FWIW, I am not at all happy with Amare melting away into oblivion here against LA. However, I kinda expected it as he was being managed by the Blazers pretty well. I just knew Gasol, Bynum and Odom were gonna be a HUGE issue for him. Still, I just don't know how a guy who's 6"10 and plays 40 mins a game, only manages to grab 9 boards in two games... How is that popssible?????

Still, I believe Nash is a bigger problem for the Suns in this series...
 

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All true... but you failed to mention that he is also killing us in this series. The only way we would have a shot against LA is if we were getting 25 points from the point. Nash is not even a legit offensive threat. He is still a great passer, but that's it... he can't even push the ball up the court with any serious pace any longer.
The Lakers are not at all concerned with Nash in terms of shooting. And what's worse, Steve still can't get off any shots. He can't create. He's nothing offensively. This puts HUGE amounts of pressure on the rest of the team.
Further, this would be workable if we were getting bigtime contributions from J-Rich. The Lakers are able to keep Artest on J-Rich full time. Artest never has to concern himself with Nash... It's painful to watch...
Offense isn't really the problem though. We've scored 107 and 112 points on 49% shooting so far. :shrug:
 

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Offense isn't really the problem though. We've scored 107 and 112 points on 49% shooting so far. :shrug:

It is a problem when the other team is putting up more than 30 points per quarter... We don't have the manpower to defend the Lakers. They could probably score 50 a quarter on us if they wanted to.
We need a serious threat at the PG position. We need to take the pressure off of other guys, and we need to get Artest and other to respect the threat at PG. Hell, Nash only took 8 shots tonight. Why eve defend the guy at all...
 
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