Amare to Chicago deal "close to finalizing?"

[Chaplin]

I guess that is the Suns problem, they only use one game to evaluate talent because he has been a difference maker for the Bulls this year. They are 15-7 with him and 8-15 without him this year. That is a big difference and and his nearly 1.5 steals a game and nearly 2 blocks a game are a big reason IMHO. I will keep him for what it is worth. But then again, why would the Suns want a player who could play defense anyways.

You can throw out the block stat. Amare has historically been a good weak-side shot blocker, but that doesn't help his defensive ability, does it? If you're going to use blocks as a gauge for Thomas, you should for Amare as well.

I want someone that can play more than 24 minutes per game if he's going to replace an all-star. And I've seen more than one game with him. There's no denying he's athletic, but he has absolutely no basketball IQ.

 

[hcsilla]

This is an Amare for Miller, Thomas + J-Rich for Hinrich, Salmons deal.

While the 1st part is just not enough for Amare, the 2nd part doesn't make any sense for the Suns.

Obviously, that would be a no-brainer for the Bulls.

 

[Mainstreet]

This trade is too good to be true.

However, to play along Nash needs another ball handler with him on the court at all times because of the constant double teams. Dragic helps but adding Hinrich and Salmons would relieve the pressure on Nash just about all the time. I do think another trade would be forthcoming because the Suns would have too many players not to mention LB will be coming back. Adding Brad Miller and Tyrus Thomas to the mix couldn't help but make the Suns better in the front court now that Amare seems to be totally distracted.

This is certainly better than losing Amare for nothing. It would make the Suns a legitimate playoff contender. Again the Suns would be looking to do another trade.

 

[PhxGametime]

Wow... this would be Trading offensive firepower for defensive. TT is a better defender than Amar'e; Hinrich is a top-5 defensive PG, IMO; and Salmons is a better defender than J-Rich...


but would Hinrich be your starting SG?? With Nash, Dragic, and Barbosa on roster... maybe another Trade goes down but I've been impressed with Dragic!


Hopefully the Suns get a 1st Rounder in at least one deal, because this has happened 2 times (even though i knew going into this year) but I have 45+ DVD's of game-film (2 games per DVD) and everytime I do that, the Suns Trade a pick or what not! The years i have like 5-10 DVD's, we keep Picks! Lol

 

[Yuma]

Let's pretend this trade was true. I think the only reason we get Hinrich, is if we were entertaining a trade for Nash.

 

[AfroSuns]

and Salmons is a better defender than J-Rich...


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How do you figure?? Salmons does not measure up to J-Rich on either end of the floor.

 

[S_Nash]

Remember a few years ago when we were so close to signing Salmons?

Negotiations failed and we ended up laughing all the way to the Banks.

 

[PhxGametime]

Maybe i should've put better defender IMO but I really like how Salmons moves his feet but they aren't off much on both sides of the ball:


12.9 3.5 2.3 1.3 .5 - .42 .78 .40 2.2 1.5 - 33 minutes
14.7 4.9 1.9 .8 .4 - .45 .74 .36 1.6 1.8 - 30 minutes


The numbers aren't much different but Salmons makes half of what Richardson makes and IMO plays better defense... i don't know what site shows defensive numbers by position but I'm guessing Salmons (being on a top defensive team) has decent numbers.


I've liked Hinrich since his Kansas days and maybe Tyrus Thomas isn't who most thought he'd be after LSU but puts up good defensive stats and should improve offensively with Nash (if he's around).

 

[AfroSuns]

Maybe i should've put better defender IMO but I really like how Salmons moves his feet but they aren't off much on both sides of the ball:


12.9 3.5 2.3 1.3 .5 - .42 .78 .40 2.2 1.5 - 33 minutes
14.7 4.9 1.9 .8 .4 - .45 .74 .36 1.6 1.8 - 30 minutes


The numbers aren't much different but Salmons makes half of what Richardson makes and IMO plays better defense... i don't know what site shows defensive numbers by position but I'm guessing Salmons (being on a top defensive team) has decent numbers.


I've liked Hinrich since his Kansas days and maybe Tyrus Thomas isn't who most thought he'd be after LSU but puts up good defensive stats and should improve offensively with Nash (if he's around).

You are correct, looking up the stats, their number are pretty similar. Being a third option on offense and playing on a bad defensive team definitely affected JRich numbers after joining the Suns.

 

[PDXChris]

Let's pretend this trade was true. I think the only reason we get Hinrich, is if we were entertaining a trade for Nash.

Hinrich has played very little PG this year. He has playing like Raja Bell(from a few years ago) this year. Rose still needs help on defense and Hinrich is really helping out in that way, which the Sun could use. Although, since the Bulls on want expiring contracts, this trade makes no sense.

 

[PDXChris]

How do you figure?? Salmons does not measure up to J-Rich on either end of the floor.

You are correct, he is not that great of a defender. That is one of the reason he is coming off the bench now since he and Rose together do not work very well on the defensive side.

 

[PDXChris]

It does not matter anyways. This is the trade that is said to be all but done in Chicago.

Hinrich for Adam Morrison and Sasha Vujacic

Morrison is a free agent this offseason and Vujacic only has one year at 5 million. That will give the Bulls 5 million more this offseason to bring them to about 25 million to sign free agents. Then it is Wade to Chicago.

PG Rose
SG Wade
SF Deng
PF Gibson
C Noah

Bench
Thomas
Salmons
Miller(resigned at a reduced rate)
James Johnson
Mid 1st round pick on Backup PG