Amare update XTRA 910

[MaoTosiFanClub]

This is ridiculous. There's obviously reason to be concerned, but there is still a long time to go, and it should be reiterated that it is not the microfracture knee that is having the problem.

But what it does mean is that he's continuing the favor the good knee even in practice and pickup games. That does not bode well for his long-term health when we're talking about him playing 100 NBA games starting next month.

 

[Chaplin]

But what it does mean is that he's continuing the favor the good knee even in practice and pickup games. That does not bode well for his long-term health when we're talking about him playing 100 NBA games starting next month.

You don't even know if that's the problem.

 

[Covert Rain]

A knee scope is pretty minor and not all that uncommon. However, if you look at the entire picture of what has happened to Amares knees, I can see why some are worried. It sounds like Amare's knees overall are not all that sturdy.

I still think he will be good again but not the Amare of old. I also, think that Amare's longevity is probably more at question then his short term prospects.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

You don't even know if that's the problem.

And you don't know that it's not. I love it how you take everything that's not 100% positivity and automatically dismiss it as untrue.

I'm assuming what Is aid was the case because it sounds an awful lot like what happened last time he had knee swelling and eventually got scoped.

 

[Cheesebeef]

A knee scope is pretty minor and not all that uncommon. However, if you look at the entire picture of what has happened to Amares knees, I can see why some are worried. It sounds like Amare's knees overall are not all that sturdy.

I still think he will be good again but not the Amare of old. I also, think that Amare's longevity is probably more at question then his short term prospects.

do we actually KNOW that Amare's knee is getting scoped again, or is this all off Tree's speculation?

 

[Muggum]

Bottom line, his right knee is as bad or worse than his left... It just *got* scoped, and now, a few months later, it needs scoped again?!

His knees are toast.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bottom line, his right knee is as bad or worse than his left... It just *got* scoped, and now, a few months later, it needs scoped again?!

His knees are toast.

if this is the case - you can't tell me it's perfectly "normal" to get one knee scoped four months ago and then need to have it scoped again four months later - that's a bad sign.

Man, it would be such a shame if Amare went the way of Grant Hill/Bill Walton - not just for us, but for the entire NBA.

 

[Chaplin]

And you don't know that it's not. I love it how you take everything that's not 100% positivity and automatically dismiss it as untrue.

When did I say ANYTHING is untrue? You may be right, but you might not be. That's all I said...

Here is what Tree posted:

Amare has had another minor set back, Phil Weber was being interviewed by dickley and molester boy and said he has some swelling in his right knee.

We don't even know what Phil Weber actually said. Did he actually say he was having a minor setback? If he did, how minor is "minor"? He might have simply said that Amare has some swelling in his right knee, and Tree might have gathered that it was a minor setback.

There's no question, it could be a problem, but there is a question on whether it IS a problem. Remember, Shawn Marion's knees swell up after every single game.

Plus, Tree said he is only speculating about another scope--from what I understand, the word "scope" was never said by Weber in the interview. But I don't know for sure.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I fear we are headed for another scope, although I am just specualting.

I would like to highlight that people are taking Treesquid's guess as gospel like it has already happened.

 

[CaptainInsano]

Is there going to be another amnesty clause by any chance? Maybe petition stern for one from desperate suns fans?

Or could you only amnesty bought out contracts? I don't remember.

Buy out amare's contract after this year and then amnesty it? I know I know, I am DESPERATE here!

 

[mjb21aztd]

Man to bad... i'm sure its nothing to serious hopefully... and he will be ok for the season opener

 

[DevonCardsFan]

This is ridiculous. There's obviously reason to be concerned, but there is still a long time to go, and it should be reiterated that it is not the microfracture knee that is having the problem.

Being a Cards fan (Swann, Wadsworth, Moore, Last year Rolle Berry etc.) and Suns fan (Penny etc.), I'm scared to death of knee injuries, If this injury was not bad Amare would be ready to go already, I'm fearing the worst!

 

[Treesquid PhD]

When did I say ANYTHING is untrue? You may be right, but you might not be. That's all I said...

Here is what Tree posted:



We don't even know what Phil Weber actually said. Did he actually say he was having a minor setback? If he did, how minor is "minor"? He might have simply said that Amare has some swelling in his right knee, and Tree might have gathered that it was a minor setback.

There's no question, it could be a problem, but there is a question on whether it IS a problem. Remember, Shawn Marion's knees swell up after every single game.

Plus, Tree said he is only speculating about another scope--from what I understand, the word "scope" was never said by Weber in the interview. But I don't know for sure.

Pure speculation on the scope, I apologize for any confusion, Weber never said Amare was going to get a scope, he did bring up the word scope several times from a past tense standpoint.

am I the only one who heard this interview?

Here is something I did notice.
-Weber was verbally careful with his words. He was very aware of what he was going to answer as if he was following a script.
-He focused on Amare growing as a person, and that it was "frustrating" for him to go through this.
-He commented on Amare's left knee being structurally sound and that he can jump six feet to the hoop off of it.
-It maybe overcompensation but they don't know why he has swelling.

Overall he was just kind of coy and not giving direct details just that there was a setback and it was swelling in the right knee.

Then when they brought up Marion his demener changed he was very certain in his comments, that Marion will be "ready to go."

 

[asudevil83]

Is there going to be another amnesty clause by any chance? Maybe petition stern for one from desperate suns fans?

Or could you only amnesty bought out contracts? I don't remember.

Buy out amare's contract after this year and then amnesty it? I know I know, I am DESPERATE here!

wow....just wow.

i HATE posts like this.

way to have loyalty to OUR players as a fan

looks like we have a case of AVS here.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Oh yeah, one more thing I recall was Amare was working very hard to come back. I can't recall anything else from the interview.

 

[CaptainInsano]

wow....just wow.

i HATE posts like this.

way to have loyalty to OUR players as a fan

looks like we have a case of AVS here.

I am sorry man but amare has a HUGE contract and we are in cap hell right now, so the last thing I want is that type of salary taking up space if amare ends up playing 20 crappy games this season.

One season of waiting for him to come back was enough, if he starts out bad I really won't be able to keep loyal as you say.

Maybe I am more loyal to the suns as a WHOLE and the CHAMPIONSHIP over a player who signed a huge contract and has not delivered a single cent.

 

[Goldfield]

Shawn Kemp...

 

[George O'Brien]

It is disappointing if he's not good to go by the time camp starts, but we'll have to play it by ear.

This team has the talent to get to the playoffs without Amare and quite likely the talent to win the division. What the Suns really need is Amare at full speed for the playoffs. Yes, I know we said that last spring, but it was an awfully optomistic time line. As long as the problems are NOT on the microfracture knee, there is still a very good chance he'll be able to contribute in playoffs.

 

[arthurracoon]

do we actually KNOW that Amare's knee is getting scoped again, or is this all off Tree's speculation?

no, its just Tree's speculation

 

[sly fly]

Off topic a little bit. But, we caught Amare at the last Cards pre-season game.

Amare was doing his best Vincent Chase impersonation, as his "entourage" tallied behind him. It was pretty comical.

On little whitey boy had the 70's cover-your-whole-head shades on. And, some 5'8" brotha had the Kermit Washington fro going on.

One of my buds gave Amare a nice, loud welcome... telling him we better be seeing him dunking on heads this year. Amare didn't hesitate to say what's up.

IMO, Amare will be fine. He'll just need some time. His D will most likely be atrocious as he tries to catch up to the speed of the game. But, his O will always be there. He's a natural scorer, and will find ways to light it up.

Now, his presence might disrupt the chemistry for awhile... so I say bring him along s-l-o-w-l-y. Why the rush? He'll get stronger as the year goes along (hopefully, barring any setbacks).

PHX proved they could win without Amare. It's Nash I'm more worried about, to be honest.

 

[Espo]

Shawn Kemp...

Amare hasn't eaten himself out of the league.

 

[asudevil83]

I am sorry man but amare has a HUGE contract and we are in cap hell right now, so the last thing I want is that type of salary taking up space if amare ends up playing 20 crappy games this season.

One season of waiting for him to come back was enough, if he starts out bad I really won't be able to keep loyal as you say.

Maybe I am more loyal to the suns as a WHOLE and the CHAMPIONSHIP over a player who signed a huge contract and has not delivered a single cent.

you just make it sound like he's gone the way of Grant Hill already, just because he has an achy knee. THATS what i find just stupid. IF he goes down for an extended period, then you can bitch and moan all you want.....but until then, try to show some support.

 

[Big D]

Off topic a little bit. But, we caught Amare at the last Cards pre-season game.

Amare was doing his best Vincent Chase impersonation, as his "entourage" tallied behind him. It was pretty comical.

On little whitey boy had the 70's cover-your-whole-head shades on. And, some 5'8" brotha had the Kermit Washington fro going on.

One of my buds gave Amare a nice, loud welcome... telling him we better be seeing him dunking on heads this year. Amare didn't hesitate to say what's up.

Don't want to hijack the thread but just wanted to share that me and my boy also ran into Amare and his crew at the Cards/Broncos game.

What's funny is it seemed like no one even knew who he was or at least wasn't saying anything so I just went up to him like 'what's up Amare, good luck this season baby' He responded with a 'what's good man, thanks, I appreciate it.' As we went past him I saw two honeys look at each other and simutaneously say 'Amare?!' then basically took off in a full out sprint towards him lol. Good stuff.

 

[nowagimp]

No offense, but some of you guys need to take a load off, chill out somewhere. Just assume amare is part time for the first half of the year. The suns are still the most fun team in the NBA. If this was the microfracture knee, I'd be really concerned, but its not. He may not have the flexibility back from that knee and so the other one will get some swelling due to the difference. Lots of pros have swelling, even DWADE uses knee icepacks at his early age.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I truly believe God made Matt Leinhart fall to number 10 as makeup to Phoenix sports fans for what he did to Amare.

I wasn't expecting much from Amare this season before this news so this doesn't really come as a shock to me - better to have low expectations with a guy coming off micro-fracture AND another surgery on the knee to boot.

WOW! Well put - i totally agree