Anderson to start Saturday!

[Crazy Canuck]

In part I agree, but I also think Leinart is part to blame because he didn't "grasp the reigns" as the QB or the leader of the offense this offseason. I have no faith in DA, but Leinarts body language says he needs a change of scenery.

Bim: reins

 

[Crazy Canuck]

You guys say inaccurate way to often?? 56% to 66%(Warners completion rate) is 3 passes in a 30 pass attempted game. Completion rate is WAYYY overrated...unless you throw 5 yard passes all game. Im telling you....Whiz wants a deep threat passing game...And ANderson throws a good deep pass. I also think it is the reason why they just never resigned Boldin. They needed speed for deep passes. If you look at the Steelers....Whiz always threw either deep passes or trick plays alot. Leinart signed his pink slip when he threw the deep ball to Williams horrible and Anderson threaded the needle. 1 deep pass completed is worth 6 dunk passes.

You have all of the certainty found only in the very dim.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The Cards only signed Anderson after Whitehurst was off the table. I'm not sure it says all that much. Whitehurst would be starting right now because Anderson wouldn't be here.

I realize Anderson was the 2nd choice after Whitehurst. I think Whitehurst is also a better QB than DA and would be the starting QB had the Cards acquired him.But he decided to sign an offer sheet from Seattle,probably a bad move on his part. The fact that Anderson pretty much stinks is what is giving ML a chance.

 

[MadCardDisease]

You guys say inaccurate way to often?? 56% to 66%(Warners completion rate) is 3 passes in a 30 pass attempted game. Completion rate is WAYYY overrated...unless you throw 5 yard passes all game. Im telling you....Whiz wants a deep threat passing game...And ANderson throws a good deep pass. I also think it is the reason why they just never resigned Boldin. They needed speed for deep passes. If you look at the Steelers....Whiz always threw either deep passes or trick plays alot. Leinart signed his pink slip when he threw the deep ball to Williams horrible and Anderson threaded the needle. 1 deep pass completed is worth 6 dunk passes.

Maybe we should sign Jamarcus Russell?

 

[Cards_Campos]

You have all of the certainty found only in the very dim.

Say what you want but since day 1 I said Matt was never going to be a good QB for us....and now I say 80% chance he is cut after this weekend. Max Hall will be our number 2 QB.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

just the fact that Wiz has to see if DA can claim this job makes me REALLY doubt Matt. If the dude who's been in our system for 3 years is having trouble holding off a piece of crap from Cleveland, that speaks VOLUMES as to what to expect from him.

Could be in for a loooooooooong year with our QB troubles.

This doesn't shock me but it does make me chuckle at all those who adamantly scolded people that Wiz had "complete confidence" in Matt. The writing was on the wall when we tried trading picks and offering a decent contract for Whitehurst.

This

 

[PoolBoy]

You guys say inaccurate way to often?? 56% to 66%(Warners completion rate) is 3 passes in a 30 pass attempted game. Completion rate is WAYYY overrated...unless you throw 5 yard passes all game. Im telling you....Whiz wants a deep threat passing game...And ANderson throws a good deep pass. I also think it is the reason why they just never resigned Boldin. They needed speed for deep passes. If you look at the Steelers....Whiz always threw either deep passes or trick plays alot. Leinart signed his pink slip when he threw the deep ball to Williams horrible and Anderson threaded the needle. 1 deep pass completed is worth 6 dunk passes.

cause hines ward was a real speed demon

 

[Cards_Campos]

Maybe we should sign Jamarcus Russell?

Well he is inaccurate and bad. I do think Anderson has potential. I mean when they threw the ball alot and he had a good WR core(2007) he performed well.

 

[kerouac9]

You guys say inaccurate way to often?? 56% to 66%(Warners completion rate) is 3 passes in a 30 pass attempted game. Completion rate is WAYYY overrated...unless you throw 5 yard passes all game. Im telling you....Whiz wants a deep threat passing game...And ANderson throws a good deep pass. I also think it is the reason why they just never resigned Boldin. They needed speed for deep passes. If you look at the Steelers....Whiz always threw either deep passes or trick plays alot. Leinart signed his pink slip when he threw the deep ball to Williams horrible and Anderson threaded the needle. 1 deep pass completed is worth 6 dunk passes.

And at the league-necessary minimum of 8 YPA, you're talking about two or three first downs a game. That's the difference between winning and losing a game.

Fun fact: his rookie year, Ben Roethlisberger completed 66.4% of his passes and averaged 8.9 YPA. His Super Bowl year, Ben R. completed 62.7% of his passes. Those two years, Ben put up a 34:20 TD-INT ratio. Derek Anderson's career completion percentage is 52.9 and his TD-INT ratio is 46-45.

 

[THESMEL]

ouch

another Cardinal heading for a pro bowl career elsewhere I guess. no need to wonder why Rolle, Dansby and Q wanted out of here as fast as possible nor Kurt wanted to retire.

Its not all on Whiz Its been this forever. I think it is the wrong decision and the Cardinals are going down hard again.

 

[TheHopToad]

Wonder what the rooks are thinking about all of this. Bottom line is that if Leinart is the starter and gets the job done this year, he is likely retained as the QB long-term. Otherwise, his contract is not renewed, or he is cut. Anderson is temporary insurance at best.

This has to expedite the priority for developing Skelton as the QBOF. He's certainly got the tools. Wouldn't be surprised to see him be the man by 2012. Whiz likes him, Whiz drafted him.

 

[MadCardDisease]

another Cardinal heading for a pro bowl career elsewhere I guess. no need to wonder why Rolle, Dansby and Q wanted out of here as fast as possible nor Kurt wanted to retire.

Its not all on Whiz Its been this forever. I think it is the wrong decision and the Cardinals are going down hard again.

It's only a preseason game. It's not like DA has been named the starter for the season. Sit back, Relax, and Enjoy the Ride! We will see what happens come week 1 of the regular season.

 

[kerouac9]

I realize Anderson was the 2nd choice after Whitehurst. I think Whitehurst is also a better QB than DA and would be the starting QB had the Cards acquired him.But he decided to sign an offer sheet from Seattle,probably a bad move on his part. The fact that Anderson pretty much stinks is what is giving ML a chance.

Charlie Whitehurst is completing 54.8% of his passes in Seattle with 3 TDs and 3 INTs and a 70.2 rating. I'm not sure that either are good.

 

[PoolBoy]

another Cardinal heading for a pro bowl career elsewhere I guess. no need to wonder why Rolle, Dansby and Q wanted out of here as fast as possible nor Kurt wanted to retire.

Its not all on Whiz Its been this forever. I think it is the wrong decision and the Cardinals are going down hard again.

this isn't the Diamondbacks. you have very few examples of this.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

From URBAN:

Whisenhunt reiterated a couple of times his issues with the offense weren’t all the quarterback’s fault. While the third preseason game is usually the one in which the starters get the most work of the entire preseason, Whisenhunt said this out-of-the-ordinary preseason will remain so for the Cards.

Because of that, there is no set playing time scheduled. Just look at the quarterbacks. In a “normal” preseason game, the starting QB would go into the third quarter. That’s obviously not happening in Chicago.

“A lot of people see this as a dress-rehearsal game,” Whisenhunt said. “We don’t look at it that way. There are a still a lot of things we are trying to find out about our team, from a personnel standpoint to schemes, all kinds of aspects.”

Whisenhunt also made it clear this was not a permanent change in the depth chart, but regardless, Anderson wasn’t going to have a chance to be the starter unless he was given the chance to be the starter.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Another angle to look at is maybe Whiz really likes Hall or Skelton as the future and DA can hold down the fort for a year until one of them takes over. I don't know what to think. I just know it's not good for Leinart.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Another angle to look at is maybe Whiz really likes Hall or Skelton as the future and DA can hold down the fort for a year until one of them takes over. I don't know what to think. I just know it's not good for Leinart.

If you don't what to think... you can't conclude that it not good for Leinart.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

From URBAN:

Whisenhunt reiterated a couple of times his issues with the offense weren’t all the quarterback’s fault. While the third preseason game is usually the one in which the starters get the most work of the entire preseason, Whisenhunt said this out-of-the-ordinary preseason will remain so for the Cards.

Because of that, there is no set playing time scheduled. Just look at the quarterbacks. In a “normal” preseason game, the starting QB would go into the third quarter. That’s obviously not happening in Chicago.

“A lot of people see this as a dress-rehearsal game,” Whisenhunt said. “We don’t look at it that way. There are a still a lot of things we are trying to find out about our team, from a personnel standpoint to schemes, all kinds of aspects.”

Whisenhunt also made it clear this was not a permanent change in the depth chart, but regardless, Anderson wasn’t going to have a chance to be the starter unless he was given the chance to be the starter.

Listen man. You can play wait and see all you want. Here are the facts.

Matt has been in the offense for four years
Matt has been with these recievers for 3+ years mostly
Matt was given the starter job at the begnning of TC

And now he is in a battle for PT with a goofball, inaccurate, Cleveland Brown discard?? Seriously?

And what about Matt the last 2 months makes you feel he is going to go out there and seize this PT in the preseason and have some fire in his belly. He looked like he was in a coma this past game when he should be fired up as hell.

The writing is on the wall man. Your just not choosing to read it.

 

[Indiana Hoosier]

Does this really shock anybody hey, "SAD TO SAY MATT IS A BUST"!

 

[MadCardDisease]

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...rterback/873d092d-6a4d-4339-81fd-2cdcb0f79a6c

Whisenhunt also knows the speculation it will generate and the further questions about Leinart’s immediate future. But it was necessary to ready his team for the regular season.

“I don’t think we have performed the way we need to perform on offense in preseason,” Whisenhunt said. “We are looking at different players in different spots trying to find a groove. It’s not something I am concerned about, but it is a great opportunity to see different combinations.”

Whisenhunt will be watching how Leinart reacts. Sometimes, the coach noted, a player will have to come in for a two-minute drill or something of that sort; Whisenhunt wants to test some of those reactions in the preseason before the regular season.

Left unsaid was Leinart’s overall reaction to a quarterback change. Whisenhunt has long been a proponent of competition across the roster and he never has differentiated between quarterback or, for example, the cornerback battle between Toler and Trumaine McBride

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. Players should be able to fight for playing time and if they don’t earn it, they don’t play.

The quarterback position impacts the whole team, and that too plays a role in watching how Saturday unfolds.

“There is thought put into this,” Whisenhunt said. “We are evaluating not only how Matt handles this but how other players handle it.”​

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[Crazy Canuck]

Listen man. You can play wait and see all you want. Here are the facts.

Matt has been in the offense for four years
Matt has been with these recievers for 3+ years mostly
Matt was given the starter job at the begnning of TC

And now he is in a battle for PT with a goofball, inaccurate, Cleveland Brown discard?? Seriously?

And what about Matt the last 2 months makes you feel he is going to go out there and seize this PT in the preseason and have some fire in his belly. He looked like he was in a coma this past game when he should be fired up as hell.

The writing is on the wall man. Your just not choosing to read it.

You've made up your mind. But, the only mind that matters sits on Whiz's shoulders. I'll wait... it's the prudent thing to do, and leave jumping to conclusions to you and others.

 

[Early]

Charlie Whitehurst is completing 54.8% of his passes in Seattle with 3 TDs and 3 INTs and a 70.2 rating. I'm not sure that either are good.

At least he is scoring points. Attacking. You can work with that, try to cut the mistakes. When you can't score, there is nothing to work with at all. Not even a 1st down, yet alone a TD.

 

[DutchmanAZ]

“There is thought put into this,” Whisenhunt said. “We are evaluating not only how Matt handles this but how other players handle it.”

What do you think Whiz wants to see out of Matt? Does he want him to get pissed off, yell and scream, be calm, stoic or ?

 

[Buckybird]

Another angle to look at is maybe Whiz really likes Hall or Skelton as the future and DA can hold down the fort for a year until one of them takes over. I don't know what to think. I just know it's not good for Leinart.

I agree about Skelton & Hall.

Like I said in an earlier post, I think Wiz wants to keep both rookies & he wanted to give DA 1 crack at starting...the QB who looks worse between Leinart & DA gets the axe regardless of what we are paying them. My 2 cents, but you may be right. This probably crushed any remaining confidence in Matt, because his body language says he didn't much left though. I still feel Leinart has the skills to be a successful QB in this league but a change of scenery may be just what the doctor ordered.

 

[Zeno]

You guys say inaccurate way to often?? 56% to 66%(Warners completion rate) is 3 passes in a 30 pass attempted game. Completion rate is WAYYY overrated...unless you throw 5 yard passes all game. Im telling you....Whiz wants a deep threat passing game...And ANderson throws a good deep pass. I also think it is the reason why they just never resigned Boldin. They needed speed for deep passes. If you look at the Steelers....Whiz always threw either deep passes or trick plays alot. Leinart signed his pink slip when he threw the deep ball to Williams horrible and Anderson threaded the needle. 1 deep pass completed is worth 6 dunk passes.

If completion % means nothing explain to me this why did every QB in the playoffs (except one--Sanchez) complete over 60% of his passes? Was it just a coincidence that 8 of the 10 worst teams in the league all had a QB completing under 60% (exceptions were Was & Jax)? Completion % is huge as is TD to INT ratio...probably the most important QB statistics.