Andrew Luck doesn't looks any better than Matt Ryan

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Not a very impressive display so far today against one of the worst defenses in the FBS for someone who is hyped as "the best prospect since Peyton Manning and John Elway".

Also, Blackmon looks like the Boldin reincarnated. :eek:
 

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Not a very impressive display so far today against one of the worst defenses in the FBS for someone who is hyped as "the best prospect since Peyton Manning and John Elway".

Stanfords offense hinders Lucks abilities. Basically no WR's, 2TE's on every play. Luck is special & anyone who's watched him play for almost his entire career sees that.
 

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I really like Justin Blackmon. First time watching him live.

I think the Boldin comparison is spot on. Big, physical.
 

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The success of Stanford's offense with the total lack of weapons that Luck has to work with is pretty remarkable. None of his receivers can get separation, they arnt fast enough to air it out. He has to place the ball into some tight spots on a regular basis.

14-17, 202 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. I'll take it.
 

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You must be a RGIII homer big time. Without Luck, Stanford is a 5 win team. He IS that team, calls practically all the plays, makes all the adjustments at the line, makes every single throw. Too bad he doesn't play in a gimmick spread offense, because he would easily win the Heisman in a landslide if he did. RGIII is about 1/4 the QB that Luck is...
 

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Not a very impressive display so far today against one of the worst defenses in the FBS for someone who is hyped as "the best prospect since Peyton Manning and John Elway".

Also, Blackmon looks like the Boldin reincarnated. :eek:

Yeah. 27 of 31 for 344 yards, 2 TD, and an INT which was just a great play by the defender is awful. How dare people compare Luck to Manning.
 

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Wow. First off Matt Ryan is pretty damn good and secondly .... I don't even know what to say in response. Forget the weapons and fact he plays in a run base offense - HE CALLS ALL HIS OWN PLAYS. You know who else can say that? Peyton and maybe Rodgers, Brees, and Brady. An I'm not even sure on the last 3 based on their HCs and OCs.

Blackmon is a beast but hell be gone by 13. I like both Stanford OL but my vote is for Michael Floyd.
 

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Wow. First off Matt Ryan is pretty damn good and secondly .... I don't even know what to say in response. Forget the weapons and fact he plays in a run base offense - HE CALLS ALL HIS OWN PLAYS. You know who else can say that? Peyton and maybe Rodgers, Brees, and Brady. An I'm not even sure on the last 3 based on their HCs and OCs.

Blackmon is a beast but hell be gone by 13. I like both Stanford OL but my vote is for Michael Floyd.

Brady absolutely can and does call his own plays. Aaron Rodgers called ALL of the plays for Matt Flynn during Sundays game.
 

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The Andrew Luck I watched tonight is one heckofa football player. If the Colts pass on him, they need their head examined.
 

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Yeah, he should fit right in with the Colts. He looks and acts like Peyton already. Indy is set for the next decade plus.....again.
 

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Other than kick a FG, I don't what more Luck could have done. Three balls out of 31 hit the ground.
 

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Even if Andrew Luck doesn't look any better than Matt Ryan, how is that bad?

He is a one man wrecking crew for Stanford. He has made Martin and DeCastro 1st round picks.
 

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Yeah hitting 20 of 21 at one point in the biggest game of his career with his best TE out and his fastest WR limping was pretty unimpressive to me too.

Stanford has NO speed, if you're expecting him to throw for 500 yards and 6 TD's yea it's disappointing but if you understand who he's throwing to and that they're a RUNNING team, his game last night would impress you.

He carved them up and he repeatedly showed how smart he is, notice how almost everytime they blitzed, Stanford had an answer be it a screen or a dumpoff, he doesn't get flustered. Notice the audibles or adjustments that lead to huge running plays, you don't see other college QB's do that, Luck does it weekly.

If Luck were our QB this season we'd be in the playoffs.
 

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He's the closest thing to Manning that's come out since Manning. He inately has one of the most valuable and unlearnable intangibles a QB can have - the ability to not just read, but to digest and interperet a defense, then dial up the right adjustement/call to take advantage of the situation.

Add to that he can make all the throws, and he's special indeed.
 

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Not a very impressive display so far today against one of the worst defenses in the FBS for someone who is hyped as "the best prospect since Peyton Manning and John Elway".

Also, Blackmon looks like the Boldin reincarnated. :eek:

Well, it's all a matter of taste. My lady thinks Matty Ice is better looking, but she agrees with the vast majority of sentient observers that Andrew is a better prospect coming out of College.
 

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Luck was incredible. Just look at his third down work. Sure it was a pourous OSU defense but still he found an open guy on almost every play.

As for RGIII read this assesment of Art Briles offense:

While Briles' offense and Leach's offense share the "spread" title, they actually aren't very similar.

Leach's offense was built around gigantic splits in the offensive line, quick passes, and yards after catch. Those huge splits made run blocking extremely difficult and resulted in poor balance. Tech's offense simply needed a quarterback to throw a decently accurate ball within three steps and let the receiver run. Very little reading of the defense, mostly just throw to the first (very good) receiver and let him go.

In contrast, Briles' offense is only a spread by definition because the quarterback rarely goes under center. The offensive line has normal splits, which greatly aids in the running game. Notice that Baylor has the most balanced offense in the nation with over 300 yards passing and 200 yards rushing. Yes, Baylor is lethally quick with over 30 drives for a touchdown this season in less than 2 minutes, but it also runs the ball very well. Also, while Briles' offense does have plenty of quick passes, it should also be noted that it has a lot of very long touch passes. Briles has moved away from the "bubble screen" offense he ran early at Baylor and improved it to a full offense complete with a strong running game and crossing patterns. The quarterback is responsible for reading defenses and looking for 2nd and 3rd options when required.

Yes, Briles runs the spread by definition, but it is nothing like the run read option that UT used in 2004-2005 with Vince or the spread option that Tech used so successfully under Leach. It's a legitimately balanced offense that is one of the most difficult to game plan against in the country. It will be an interesting test to see how Manny Diaz prepares his team for Griffin and company for next week's finale. It will be an intense game.
 

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He's the closest thing to Manning that's come out since Manning. He inately has one of the most valuable and unlearnable intangibles a QB can have - the ability to not just read, but to digest and interperet a defense, then dial up the right adjustement/call to take advantage of the situation.

Add to that he can make all the throws, and he's special indeed.

but he is not perfect, thus the downgrade. :D
 

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Side note anybody else think Shaw blew the game by playing for a FG instead of just letting his best player take a shot at the endzone?

I said it the whole drive don't just play for the FG because your kicker is a freshman. Bit him in the butt.

when you have the best player on the field you put the game in his hands, not the freshman kickers' IMHO.
 

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Side note anybody else think Shaw blew the game by playing for a FG instead of just letting his best player take a shot at the endzone?

I said it the whole drive don't just play for the FG because your kicker is a freshman. Bit him in the butt.

when you have the best player on the field you put the game in his hands, not the freshman kickers' IMHO.

Especially in that stadium where missed Field Goals are a natural occurrence.
 

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Other than kick a FG, I don't what more Luck could have done. Three balls out of 31 hit the ground.

And one of them hit his receiver in the arms in the endzone. The guy was well covered but that throw was exactly where it needed to be.

Especially in that stadium where missed Field Goals are a natural occurrence.

My cousin and I were talking about that when it happened. When you have the best football player in college you don't take the ball out of his hands. I would rather lose with Andrew Luck throwing an interception in the endzone than losing it the way they did. Stanford will be average next year and Shaw will be gone within 3 years.
 

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