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Marcus Spears from LSU a few years ago. 290+ lb DE who fits in the 3-4 but I believe is a free agent next year. He doesn't offer much in the way of a pass rush however.
 

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Who is Miles Austin?? Sounds like Jerry Jones trying to stir the pot again
 

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I have said for about 3 months now.

Ware and a 1st.
 

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If Boldin stays healthy and has a decent year the cowboys will be even more inclined to make a deal with us. TO is no spring chicken.
 

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I love these trades--

lets get rid of marginal players and get someone good in return

Spears is a solid but unspectacular defensive end. I doubt he is better than Antonio Smith and is certainly not better than Dockett. Given the emergence of Calais Campbell and Iwebema, I am not sure what he does for the Cardinals other than add another body in the mix. I beleive he will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, so to keep him his price will go up.

Miles Austin is a marginal player who just tore his MCL and cant play for another 4 weeks at a minimum. One of the Cowboys principal weaknesses is that the have nobody who can take pressure off of TO. I am not sure what a marginal player at the Cowboys weakest roster position does for the Cardinals.

What that leaves is effectively giving up Boldin to trade up from the third round to the first round.

No thanks.
 
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Marcus Spears from LSU a few years ago. 290+ lb DE who fits in the 3-4 but I believe is a free agent next year. He doesn't offer much in the way of a pass rush however.



Most of the Cowboy fans on their board dont want to lose Spears. They say he can stuff the run well
 

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Trading Boldin is stupid.

You don't get better by trading your pro bowl players away (unless you replace them). Portis for Champ.

Trading Boldin would create a huge hole in our offense...
 

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when we could get players like this and a first from other teams, trading with one of the best teams in the league would be stupid, because they will be picking at least at the 25th spot.
 

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If Boldin stays healthy and has a decent year the Cowboys will be even more inclined to make a deal with us. TO is no spring chicken.

If we are going to trade Boldin, we should wait until before next year's draft, IMO. Like you said, I think we would be able to get much more in return.
 

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Trading Boldin is stupid.

You don't get better by trading your pro bowl players away (unless you replace them). Portis for Champ.

Trading Boldin would create a huge hole in our offense...


And Denver and Washington improved since that trade how.......?

Generalizing is the worst thing you can do here. Bottom line is....if the cards are stacked at wideout.....boldin is wanting to be traded so trade him. its the one position that we can afford to lose a player.

if we can get something back in return then even better. I love Q but he needs to go. remember too that a first rounder is nothing to scoff at....
 

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Most of the Cowboy fans on their board dont want to lose Spears. They say he can stuff the run well

He can, but run stuffing 3-4 DEs aren't exactly prize commodities. And this guy is no Aaron Smith (the prototypical 3-4 DE who will still get you 6-8 sacks). The board want to trade nothing and get Boldin in return, so I doubt they want to lose a starting DE.
 

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Trading Boldin would create a huge hole in our offense...
If not for Fitz, I'd agree with you. But most NFL teams don't have two pro-bowl WRs and many of them do just fine. Having Boldin and Fitz is a luxury, not a necessity.

We need a solid #2, not a superstar #2. Crayton fits that bill, as does a host of other WRs out there.

IMO, most of us blinded ourselves to the fact that this sort of situation was likely to happen...especially once we got rid of Green and hired Whiz. Green's offensive philosophy (the ever elusive "system") was more conducive to keeping two high-paid WRs. Whiz's is not.
 

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We need a solid #2, not a superstar #2. Crayton fits that bill, as does a host of other WRs out there.

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then why is it that the team that has him has concluded he isnt good enough at the #2 WR option?

I agree that generally you dont need a superstar at #2 -- but I think the Cowboys well documented quest to get another WR isnt exactly a vote of confidence for Patrick Crayton.
 

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Spears has sucked so bad at 3-4 DE that they are considering trying him at NT.

Even the Cardinals are stupid enough to consider this a valid trade.
 

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if we can get something back in return then even better. I love Q but he needs to go. remember too that a first rounder is nothing to scoff at....

A first rounder for a proven Star that is only 27 years old and still has 3 years left on his contract. I scoff at that.
 

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And Denver and Washington improved since that trade how.......?

Generalizing is the worst thing you can do here. Bottom line is....if the cards are stacked at wideout.....boldin is wanting to be traded so trade him. its the one position that we can afford to lose a player.

if we can get something back in return then even better. I love Q but he needs to go. remember too that a first rounder is nothing to scoff at....

We can't afford to lose any player. We haven't made the playoffs in 10years.

A #1 pick is a crap shoot...I will take a proven player (pro bowler) 10 times out of 10.
 

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A first rounder for a proven Star that is only 27 years old and still has 3 years left on his contract. I scoff at that.


i agree he is a proven star......but face it--he's not going to retire a cardinal and he's not happy. It is what it is. Youre going to have to realize that if/when we trade boldin.....the other team is immediatly going to have the upper hand because of the obvious dislike boldin now has for the organization.

people who are expecting to get equal value and/or greater value for boldin in return are just plain nieve.

in other words MCD....we're ****ed
 

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We can't afford to lose any player. We haven't made the playoffs in 10years.

A #1 pick is a crap shoot...I will take a proven player (pro bowler) 10 times out of 10.


all im saying is if we have to lose a player it might as well be from the wideout position because we are/we're blessed to have two stars. I would much rather lose boldin for the year than AW or DD
 

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