Are Cards making a mistake...

[CardShark]

by not signing a backup QB before the draft?

If they don't draft a QB, isn't that just going to increase the value of any FA? Won't there be more competition for FA QB's after the draft?

 

[Shogun]

June 1st cuts maybe?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I think that there will be an open tryout for the #2 QB position here between Navarre, Davey, and a drafted QB. If we somehow drafted Leinart, I think he automatically shoots to backup, where anyone else would still have to tryout in training camp.

 

[CardShark]

I think that there will be an open tryout for the #2 QB position here between Navarre, Davey, and a drafted QB. If we somehow drafted Leinart, I think he automatically shoots to backup, where anyone else would still have to tryout in training camp.

But what if they don't draft one of the top 3? Do you think anyone other than an experienced QB will be able to backup Warner?

 

[jefftheshark]

We will find out what Kerry Collins looks like in red.

The Shark

 

[General Chaos]

by not signing a backup QB before the draft?

If they don't draft a QB, isn't that just going to increase the value of any FA? Won't there be more competition for FA QB's after the draft?

Any FA not signed yet isn't in very high demand except Ty Law and Lavar Arrignton.

 

[Pariah]

Where did Griese land?

 

[vinnymac]

you won't see a lot of activity this close to the draft on fa. teams are going to wait until after the draft to sign fa. only high profile fa would be signed before the draft.

 

[BACH]

Where did Griese land?

Chicago.

I believe we've talked to Kerry Collins, so in case we don't draft a QBOF, he's probably first option.

 

[JeffGollin]

In my opinion, yes, we're making a mistake.

I understand why DG and RG want to keep their options open and could draft two different kinds of QB depending on if we take one in the draft (and who that rookie QB turned out to be).

But I also am a great believer in making time your friend and not your enemy. The longer we wait, the more likely the pool of available FA's will dry up so that we have fewer QB's to pick from. All this within the context of wanting to have our QB situations stable before training camp - if not earlier.

I also believe that the fewer problems or questions a front office and QB has to address, the more they can focus on doing what's necessary to get the existing team ready to compete. Wondering who our backup QB will be is just one more distraction.

 

[CardShark]

In my opinion, yes, we're making a mistake.

I understand why DG and RG want to keep their options open and could draft two different kinds of QB depending on if we take one in the draft (and who that rookie QB turned out to be).

But I also am a great believer in making time your friend and not your enemy. The longer we wait, the more likely the pool of available FA's will dry up so that we have fewer QB's to pick from. All this within the context of wanting to have our QB situations stable before training camp - if not earlier.

I also believe that the fewer problems or questions a front office and QB has to address, the more they can focus on doing what's necessary to get the existing team ready to compete. Wondering who our backup QB will be is just one more distraction.

I'm in complete agreement. Right now teams have the power for negotiating. After the draft when the option of drafting a QB is gone, I think the power switches over to the player, providing there are other teams that still need to fill that position.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm in complete agreement. Right now teams have the power for negotiating. After the draft when the option of drafting a QB is gone, I think the power switches over to the player, providing there are other teams that still need to fill that position.

From what I read, Collins still wants "big bucks" and short of that will retire.

So... who else is still out there?

 

[BigRedFan]

This basically tells us that QB is a consideration in round 1. Id be happy enough if we had Vince Young be the backup if chosen. He may not be NFL ready but at least can get ground yardage which is a good fit for a team with our O-line problems. If Warner goes down he could get a few games of experience, better sooner than later. This year is the year to get a respectable record, develop the O-line and QB positions (if the opportunity arises); if the playoffs are there, great, but I think it will take until 07 to be a serious contender.

 

[Toro]

I agree. I think they are targeting a QB in the 1st round. Navarre as the backup? Are you kidding me. That would be a joke.

 

[Mulli]

This basically tells us that QB is a consideration in round 1. Id be happy enough if we had Vince Young be the backup if chosen. He may not be NFL ready but at least can get ground yardage which is a good fit for a team with our O-line problems. If Warner goes down he could get a few games of experience, better sooner than later. This year is the year to get a respectable record, develop the O-line and QB positions (if the opportunity arises); if the playoffs are there, great, but I think it will take until 07 to be a serious contender.

Amen to that.

 

[ajcardfan]

I agree. I think they are targeting a QB in the 1st round. Navarre as the backup? Are you kidding me. That would be a joke.

Get ready to laugh. I think Green is very willing to go with Navarre as #2. In fact, I don't believe they were ever very interested in any vet free agent. And, even if they draft Young or Cutler, Navarre will be #2 this season.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Get ready to laugh. I think Green is very willing to go with Navarre as #2. In fact, I don't believe they were ever very interested in any vet free agent. And, even if they draft Young or Cutler, Navarre will be #2 this season.

No chuckle from me. I think you're probably right.

 

[az1965]

This basically tells us that QB is a consideration in round 1.

I was going to say the same thing... this may be an indication that Cards have QB planned first day of draft.

 

[lobo]

we sure have a lot of consensus on these points...add a tablespoon of a run stopper and we have it done.....there is probobly something to the collins money thing...at this point if you look over the rosters and the potential deals pending...a la ravens/titans...there is not too much demand around for a starting QB...if i were collins i say who has the best shot of going down and me stepping in...we all know the anwer to that...i again agree with jeff...we should have gone after a back-up by now UNLESS WE have and keeping it under wraps...off the top of my head...martin, fiedler, collins... not in that order. PLEASE NOT Jeff George!!!

 

[Totally_Red]

Disagree

This basically tells us that QB is a consideration in round 1. Id be happy enough if we had Vince Young be the backup if chosen. He may not be NFL ready but at least can get ground yardage which is a good fit for a team with our O-line problems. If Warner goes down he could get a few games of experience, better sooner than later. This year is the year to get a respectable record, develop the O-line and QB positions (if the opportunity arises); if the playoffs are there, great, but I think it will take until 07 to be a serious contender.

After the huuuuuuuuuuge letdown last season, Denny and Rod need to take this team to the playoffs IMO. Anything less with the money spent on Edge is a disappointment. The Rams may take a season to click under new management, the Niners seem headed south, and our schedule is the most favorable it's been in several years IMO. No more excuses. No more wait till next year.

I do see your point about QBOTF. I'd just rather draft him in round three and use rounds one and two to get players to help win this year. Last year was a fiasco from that standpoint. Rolle missed most of the year. J.J. was a big disappointment. This draft we need the two guys to contribute THIS season, like Fitz and Q did their rookie years.

 

[overseascardfan]

by not signing a backup QB before the draft?

If they don't draft a QB, isn't that just going to increase the value of any FA? Won't there be more competition for FA QB's after the draft?

I would trade this year's #5 and next years #4 for Andrew Walter.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

After the huuuuuuuuuuge letdown last season, Denny and Rod need to take this team to the playoffs IMO. Anything less with the money spent on Edge is a disappointment. The Rams may take a season to click under new management, the Niners seem headed south, and our schedule is the most favorable it's been in several years IMO. No more excuses. No more wait till next year.

I do see your point about QBOTF. I'd just rather draft him in round three and use rounds one and two to get players to help win this year. Last year was a fiasco from that standpoint. Rolle missed most of the year. J.J. was a big disappointment. This draft we need the two guys to contribute THIS season, like Fitz and Q did their rookie years.

no no no! What is the bust factor on QBs drafted in the third round? 80%? 90%? It's too much of a risk.

All the stars are aligned for us to get our QBOF this year. There's a good chance that the number ten spot will yield a bona fied QB superstar. It's time to man up and get it done.

I'm not saying that we for sure take young or cutler over a justice or VD, but IF we do take a QB on day one, then it better be at #10.

 

[CardShark]

I would trade this year's #5 and next years #4 for Andrew Walter.

I don't think he's ready and that's why the Raiders are said to be considering a QB. I think they still like him though.

I wish we would have made a play for Griese or even Harrington.

 

[ChemTheThriller]

I think with

Warner
Davey

and possibly a mid-late round QB selection in the draft we should be fine...

 

[BigRedFan]

I dont completely disagree. I would take Huff or Davis over Young. But I would take Vince Young over Justice, Bunkely, Ngata, etc. Im just saying that I dont think they necessarily need another veteran backup like Collins if they do draft a QB. Even if we add an immediate impact player or 2, the Cardinals success will still depend on the development of their OL, it is not realistic to think it can turn around that quick. So I would favor start giving a new QB some reps so by 07 all positions will be coming in place.

After the huuuuuuuuuuge letdown last season, Denny and Rod need to take this team to the playoffs IMO. Anything less with the money spent on Edge is a disappointment. The Rams may take a season to click under new management, the Niners seem headed south, and our schedule is the most favorable it's been in several years IMO. No more excuses. No more wait till next year.

I do see your point about QBOTF. I'd just rather draft him in round three and use rounds one and two to get players to help win this year. Last year was a fiasco from that standpoint. Rolle missed most of the year. J.J. was a big disappointment. This draft we need the two guys to contribute THIS season, like Fitz and Q did their rookie years.