ARI@SF: Heroes and Goats

[PJ1]

I love tommy kelly, and his play shouldn't be defined by one penalty, but frankly that one was a backbreaker.

Agreed. Absolute killer. Third and a mile and they get nothing but wait a flag.

I felt sick as soon as I saw the flag. As a long time Cardinal fan I am conditioned to expect these things.

 

[NJCardFan]

NJCard. I was mearly responding to an earlier post and highlighting what I thought was Lindley's mistakes in the game in which I thought hurt us. I never said he deserved Goat status because in my opiion he played his best game.

Now the D needed to step up and did not. Thus they deserve goat status more than Lindley.

I can respect that.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

1. Ryan Lindley, QB. If last week, Lindley's play resembled a dumpster fire, this week he just looked like a guy who deserves to exist on the fringes of a lot of NFL rosters. The problem remains that Lindley can't give his teams a non-zero chance to win if he's playing more than a quarter of football.

Big surprise, Mr. Happy chose the #3 QB, who was actually the #4 QB at the beginning of the season, as the #1 Goat. Probably in response to others on other posts saying positive things. Good way to pick another fight.

K9, I got an idea. How about if you post an 8-hour video of your work day, and we can all comment if you are a hero or a goat?

 

[BigRedFan]

Let's give the guy a break. 300 yard game and 8.1 yards/attempt is not deserving of goat status.

 

[Catfish]

1. Ryan Lindley, QB. If last week, Lindley's play resembled a dumpster fire, this week he just looked like a guy who deserves to exist on the fringes of a lot of NFL rosters. The problem remains that Lindley can't give his teams a non-zero chance to win if he's playing more than a quarter of football.

That is exactly where he has been since Whiz trashed him in his rookie season. He has shown decent improvement in his last two starts. Makes one wonder how much better he could have been had he not been subjected to the engineer's logic that the system works and you can simply plug players in to it. That was a very cruel way to enter the NFL, (used up and tossed away like so much fodder).

 

[kerouac9]

That is exactly where he has been since Whiz trashed him in his rookie season. He has shown decent improvement in his last two starts. Makes one wonder how much better he could have been had he not been subjected to the engineer's logic that the system works and you can simply plug players in to it. That was a very cruel way to enter the NFL, (used up and tossed away like so much fodder).

I dunno. Darren Urban said that the way he played really surprised him, as well. That he hadn't seen Lindley perform that well even in most practices--in fact, that he had a worse training camp this year than in 2013.

I wish someone would explain to me the process by which a quarterback is "ruined" for a career based on 171 attempts late in his rookie season. Lindley had an entire year on the Cardinals roster under Bruce Arians and that made him no less expendable.

 

[Catfish]

I am simply saying that we already have him, (and cheaply). Why not see what this staff can milk out of him before we decide to discard him. Another off-season in this system might give him the chance to learn properly what he needs to know. We don't really lose anything by keeping him on at this juncture. We will need extra QBs anyway come OTA's when the staff runs two fields at the same time. If he continues to improve then, like he did in the past three games, the light might have finally come on for him.

 

[SO91]

Big surprise, Mr. Happy chose the #3 QB, who was actually the #4 QB at the beginning of the season, as the #1 Goat. Probably in response to others on other posts saying positive things. Good way to pick another fight.

K9, I got an idea. How about if you post an 8-hour video of your work day, and we can all comment if you are a hero or a goat?

LOl, way to get personal bud.

 

[splitsecond]

Lindley was a goat, he threw three INT's. His passing was remarkable better when he wasn't throwing picks or almost picks. I was pretty astounded by the accuracy on a lot of his throws, he wasn't sailing them like last week. His decision making is still goat worthy, hence why he ended up with 3 INT's. In my opinion it shows he DOES have potential to be deeper on an NFL roster and that the enormity of the Seattle game was not something he was anywhere close to ready for. But I will say I think he at least looked like an NFL quarterback in the first half of the game, and was pretty fun to watch for a little while.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would have put The Ghost in, but that is me. Lindley was not good, which may be better than awful, but still isn't good. He had three picks which he can't afford to have with what he is bringing to the table.

Also, I believe Cro was more goat than Powers, but I can see where you are coming from.

can't argue with the hiro's. They all played well. The offensive line in general was good for most of the game. I thought Arians did well to call pass plays in throwing downs to keep the defense from teeing off.

 

[cardncubfan]

Lindley was a goat, he threw three INT's. His passing was remarkable better when he wasn't throwing picks or almost picks. I was pretty astounded by the accuracy on a lot of his throws, he wasn't sailing them like last week. His decision making is still goat worthy, hence why he ended up with 3 INT's. In my opinion it shows he DOES have potential to be deeper on an NFL roster and that the enormity of the Seattle game was not something he was anywhere close to ready for. But I will say I think he at least looked like an NFL quarterback in the first half of the game, and was pretty fun to watch for a little while.

+1
I was ecstatic the first half.

 

[kerouac9]

I am simply saying that we already have him, (and cheaply). Why not see what this staff can milk out of him before we decide to discard him. Another off-season in this system might give him the chance to learn properly what he needs to know. We don't really lose anything by keeping him on at this juncture. We will need extra QBs anyway come OTA's when the staff runs two fields at the same time. If he continues to improve then, like he did in the past three games, the light might have finally come on for him.

He's already had two offseasons--the 2013 offseason and the 2014 offseason. At a certain point, don't diminishing returns set in?

Regardless, he's an RFA, I think, at the end of the season. I wouldn't put anything more than a right-of-first-refusal tender on him. I don't think he's any better or worse than you average camp arm.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I would have put The Ghost in, but that is me.

I thought the Ghost and the Dude were assumed to always be goats on this list, just never spoken about unless they are tragically bad.

 

[Chopper0080]

I thought the Ghost and the Dude were assumed to always be goats on this list, just never spoken about unless they are tragically bad.

The Ghost was.

 

[Chaz]

At least the goats actually played in the game this week.
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