Arizona Diamondbacks @ LA Dodgers Aug 30 - Sept 2, 2018

[AZCB34]

They just need to start hitting. Starting pitching has been great and the bull pen, minus Archie, has been OK the last week. If they were actually had a little more offense, their record would be quit different.

I agree but the offense has been in a funk for some time. You would think if they were going to start hitting again they would have already done so. Plus, don't look now but Rockies .5 games back.

They have the talent. I believe they have the will. They aren't executing what they are capable of lately and unless they break out soon...

 

[BC867]

They just need to start hitting. Starting pitching has been great and the bull pen, minus Archie, has been OK the last week. If they were actually had a little more offense, their record would be quit different.

The answer is so simple. You said it yourself in Post #73. Too many popups. Screw "lift" (Ted Williams is not on our team) and go for line drives into the gaps or the opposite field. This ridiculous obsession of stubbornly hitting it into the exaggerated shifts -- well, we've seen the results of false bravado over common sense.

I'd rather see a single/double/single three times a game -- that's six runs ... than one 2-run homer or two solo homers for two runs in each of the past two games. And, ironically, the less they try to hit home runs and pick their pitches, the more home runs they will hit.

Curt Schilling would have had a ball pitching against the 2018 Diamondbacks. Give up a couple of solo home runs and bear down to leave runners on base. And beat them 3-2 every time. Just like our last two games. What is going on now is disappointing to think about and frustrating to watch. But I will! I won't lose hope that common sense might prevail.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[82CardsGrad]

-- Bob Brenly has said on the air that the D-backs are trying to play American League baseball. Needless to say, he is more authoritative about the D-backs than any of us.

-- I told you in my post what I was referring to. The hitting philosophy of home run or nothing.

-- I can't understand not holding the Manager responsible for a problem affecting the whole offense. Clearly, it is a team problem.

-- We had the opportunity to run away the the Division lead when our injured hitters came back. Instead, as I posted, the hitters' inability to score in more than one inning a game for awhile affects the pitchers, too.

I have no desire to keep this going with you. Or having to point out that I posted the very things you overlooked.

82, I don't know you personally. I post my opinions. If you respond to what I post with sarcasm and insults, I am going to try my best to not respond. You have your opinion and I have mine. That's what ASFN is all about. And it's usually fun. And informative to read others' opinions.

Go D-backs.

It’s just so hard to ignore your warped views on a game I love and played for a large portion of my life, and a team I enjoy supporting...

One final question for you: Since you believe that the Dbacks woes on offense are “simply” a matter of coaching, what value, if any, do you place on player evaluation?? If it’s just coaching, do you believe that there are only 1 or perhaps 2 good coaches in MLB, since just about every team struggles most of the time at the plate (most teams bat around .260)??
Do you believe that coaching can allow teams to neglect scouting and player assessment? That teams can simply fill their rosters with anyone and as long as the coaching is up to snuff, it doesn’t matter who is on the team because coaches can make any player a great hitter??

You continue to lay 100% of the hitting woes at the feet of Lovullo and ZERO at the guys who are actually holding a bat!!
You continue to lack the ability to understand that no matter what a coach may instruct and drill, the player still needs to execute!!
You continue to fail to comprehend that often times, what plays out at the plate is NOT what a manager desired! Why, because baseball is hard and only a rare few players can execute in any sort of consistent fashion - meaning they too will fail 70% of the time!!

For someone who seems to have followed the game as long as you seemed to, it’s just stunning to see how off-course you are...

 

[Ronin]

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[Shaggy]

It’s just so hard to ignore your warped views on a game I love and played for a large portion of my life, and a team I enjoy supporting...

One final question for you: Since you believe that the Dbacks woes on offense are “simply” a matter of coaching, what value, if any, do you place on player evaluation?? If it’s just coaching, do you believe that there are only 1 or perhaps 2 good coaches in MLB, since just about every team struggles most of the time at the plate (most teams bat around .260)??
Do you believe that coaching can allow teams to neglect scouting and player assessment? That teams can simply fill their rosters with anyone and as long as the coaching is up to snuff, it doesn’t matter who is on the team because coaches can make any player a great hitter??

You continue to lay 100% of the hitting woes at the feet of Lovullo and ZERO at the guys who are actually holding a bat!!
You continue to lack the ability to understand that no matter what a coach may instruct and drill, the player still needs to execute!!
You continue to fail to comprehend that often times, what plays out at the plate is NOT what a manager desired! Why, because baseball is hard and only a rare few players can execute in any sort of consistent fashion - meaning they too will fail 70% of the time!!

For someone who seems to have followed the game as long as you seemed to, it’s just stunning to see how off-course you are...

Who really knows whats causing their hitting issues. You guys going back and forth with this is getting old. You 2 have different ideas what is right and wrong. You guys will never agree on this so why continue to argue about it?

It is frustrating for sure to see them just lose these last few games due to just not hitting just a little bit better but there is no real way to figure out why they aren't.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Who really knows whats causing their hitting issues. You guys going back and forth with this is getting old. You 2 have different ideas what is right and wrong. You guys will never agree on this so why continue to argue about it?

It is frustrating for sure to see them just lose these last few games due to just not hitting just a little bit better but there is no real way to figure out why they aren't.

It’s frustrating... But the point I’m trying to make, and I’ll stop now, is that it’s not just the fault of the coaches... In fact, the player’s shoulder the majority of the blame. But then again, the reality is that this team is merely performing at or slightly above their actual talent level anyway...

 

[BC867]

It’s just so hard to ignore your warped views on a game I love and played for a large portion of my life, and a team I enjoy supporting...

One final question for you: Since you believe that the Dbacks woes on offense are “simply” a matter of coaching, what value, if any, do you place on player evaluation?? If it’s just coaching, do you believe that there are only 1 or perhaps 2 good coaches in MLB, since just about every team struggles most of the time at the plate (most teams bat around .260)??
Do you believe that coaching can allow teams to neglect scouting and player assessment? That teams can simply fill their rosters with anyone and as long as the coaching is up to snuff, it doesn’t matter who is on the team because coaches can make any player a great hitter??

You continue to lay 100% of the hitting woes at the feet of Lovullo and ZERO at the guys who are actually holding a bat!!
You continue to lack the ability to understand that no matter what a coach may instruct and drill, the player still needs to execute!!
You continue to fail to comprehend that often times, what plays out at the plate is NOT what a manager desired! Why, because baseball is hard and only a rare few players can execute in any sort of consistent fashion - meaning they too will fail 70% of the time!!

For someone who seems to have followed the game as long as you seemed to, it’s just stunning to see how off-course you are...

82, your exaggerations to support your opinion are your worst enemy. I never said "simply" a matter of coaching. Or it's "just" coaching. Or "100%" of the hitting woes. Or "ZERO" at the guys who are actually holding a bat. Or "great" hitters.

When a whole team stops scoring in latter innings, it is a team problem. And team trends, obviously, are primarily in the hands of the Manager and his Hitting Coach. So please, don't quote things that I never said.

And I respectfully suggest that you remember what an opinion is. We are all entitled to ours. I haven't, and wouldn't, use the phrase "warped views" to refer to yours. Insulting a poster to further your opinions is disrespectful. Everyone on this board is entitled to share their opinion.

When you posted that you're just helping me "see the light", my reaction was to laugh. Do you honestly believe that you are here to help the rest of us see the light? How do you think we react when we read that?

I've changed opinions after reading posts. But, in this case, I still believe that the inability to score in latter innings is a team problem and that falls, as I said, primarily on the Manager and Hitting Coach.

There is no guarantee that a first time Manager from a different league is going to excel. To absolve a Manager of his leadership responsibility isn't going to improve the results.

Let's be buddies, 82. This is supposed to be fun.

 

[Shaggy]

Wow. Got lucky on that one.

 

[Shaggy]

BC and 82, you two need to stop. Getting out of hand really.

 

[BC867]

BC and 82, you two need to stop. Getting out of hand really.

OK.

 

[AZ Native]

BC and 82, you two need to stop. Getting out of hand really.

Hey, if we can't score runs at least we can have lively discussions to keep sane.

 

[Shaggy]

True, I don't mind the banter back and forth, just no need to get personal put it.

 

[Shaggy]

Minus Archie, the bull pen has seemed to have gotten better the last few weeks.

 

[Lefty]

We are all Diamondbacks fans and it's definitely frustrating some times, but we all should respect everyones opinions. And remember, it's just a game.

 

[BC867]

Clutch Descalso with a HR leading off the 9th. Just over Bellinger's glove. 2-1 D-backs.

 

[AZ Native]

We are all Diamondbacks fans and it's definitely frustrating some times, but we all should respect everyones opinions. And remember, it's just a game.

I think it happens when opinions are stated as “facts”. It is a fine line for all of us.

 

[BC867]

Avila with a line drive double.

And we go to the bottom of the 9th.

 

[AZ Native]

Is everyone feeling the Boxberger love?

 

[BC867]

Uh oh. Box has walked the first two batters.

 

[TJ]

I hate Boxburger

 

[BC867]

Sacrifice. Kemp up with tying and winning runs on 2nd and 3rd. And Archie comes in to face Kemp again.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Archie? Now? Torey has a set of balls that’s for sure... [emoji15]

 

[devilalum]

Blowburger, now Archie?

I feel sick.


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