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The Skydome is undergoing a significant upgrade. Construction crews are digging deep holes outside the school's cafeteria for new buildings. Meanwhile, the Arizona Cardinals, who make their summer home at NAU, are undergoing a major roster reconstruction.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt is working with 51 new players on his 90-man roster. That includes 10 significant acquisitions, among them former Eagles quarterback Kevin Kolb and linebacker Stewart Bradley. After a disastrous 5-11 season, the Cards needed to take a wrecking ball to their lineup.

This team is clearly on the rebound. Spirits are good. The talent level is better. After the team failed to have a master plan to replace Kurt Warner, who retired after a 2009 playoff season, inspectors should give an early thumbs-up to the Cardinals' master plan.

Here are five observations from Cardinals camp:

1. Kolb solid: The trade for Kolb should improve the Cardinals by at least three games. This is a better-looking Kolb than what we saw in Philadelphia for seven starts. Tight end Todd Heap, who watched Joe Flacco develop into an elite quarterback during Flacco's first three years in Baltimore, sees similar projections for Kolb. He's throwing the ball better than he did in Philadelphia. During the 136-day lockout, Kolb spent time with a trainer strengthening muscles in his stomach and back. As a result, he's firing passes like laser beams to receivers. Scouting reports from Philadelphia suggested he had a tendency to push the ball in his throws. Not now. "My arm has been feeling a lot stronger,'' Kolb said. "The ball is coming out quicker.'' Because Kolb has a gunslinger's mentality, his quick arm action should translate into big numbers for the Cardinals' offense. The second most important thing is that he understands Rule No. 1 in Arizona: Throw the ball to Larry Fitzgerald. That's not as easy as it sounds. Quarterbacks are trained not to throw to receivers when they are covered. Defenses may commit two defenders to stop Fitzgerald, but Kolb already understands to ignore the coverages and throw it to him anyway. "It took about a year or two for Kurt Warner to start trusting me like that," Fitzgerald said. Kolb picked that up in two days. He throws everything to Fitzgerald, and why not? He catches everything. Last year, Cardinals quarterbacks targeted Fitzgerald 173 times but connected on only 90 passes because most of the throws were off target. Normally, he gets 96 to 100 receptions out of 153 to 160 targeted throws. If Kolb and Fitzgerald stay healthy for 16 games, Fitzgerald should average at least seven catches a game out of 11 or 12 attempts.

2. Weapons are there: As much as most Cardinals fans want the team to get a big-name No. 2 receiver, the offense has enough receiving weapons to contend for the NFC West title. Andre Roberts is a decent outside receiver. Early Doucet is a nice target in the slot. The additions of tight ends Heap, Jeff King and Rob Housler should give Whisenhunt enough talent to scheme a potent passing offense. As he did in college, Kolb works his best out of spread formations. Whisenhunt has enough depth to use three- and four-receiver sets along with switching into some two-tight-end formations to confuse defenses. Heap is the first pass-catching tight end Whisenhunt has added since taking over as coach. He'll help Kolb in the middle of the field and in the red zone. In practices and in the first preseason game, Kolb has done an exceptional job accurately getting the ball to every pass-catcher. "Kevin is a little bit more of a gunslinger,'' Fitzgerald said. "He throws caution to the wind and lets [the receiver] try to make a play. Plus, he's really getting the ball into good places.'' Fitzgerald notes that of Kolb's seven starts in Philadelphia, he was Player of the Week twice.

3. Wells runs with authority: Beanie Wells is finally starting to look like a first-round running back. As a rookie in 2009, Wells' body wasn't ready for the NFL because he was coming off a knee injury. Last season, he didn't seem to have much confidence. Wells arrived in camp at 228 pounds but with very little body fat. He's running with more quickness and authority. Sure, there are times he needs to lower his pads and be more technically sound when he hits holes in short-yardage and goal-line situations, but his confidence has him making better decisions at the line of scrimmage and breaking more long runs. Of course, he'd better run hard and with confidence. Second-round pick Ryan Williams wows his teammates with one or two spectacular runs per practice. On Sunday, he broke an off-tackle run to his right, got 10 yards downfield and made two or three incredible cuts that left defenders whiffing. Wells may not be as good as DeAngelo Williams of the Carolina Panthers, but the one-two punch in the Cards' backfield reminds you a little of what the Panthers have in Williams and Jonathan Stewart.

4. Cornerback shuffle: The Cardinals wanted to draft Von Miller to be their pass-rushing linebacker, but the Denver Broncos grabbed him before their selection. So they settled on cornerback Patrick Peterson, a tall, physical cornerback with freakish speed. Peterson looks the part in practice, but he's running as the fourth cornerback in camp behind A.J. Jefferson, Greg Toler and recently signed Richard Marshall. Part of the reason for the slow promotion is Whisenhunt's style of making new acquisitions earn playing time, so Peterson should move up the depth chart before the opener. But drafting Peterson allowed the Cardinals to trade Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie as part of the package to get Kolb, which ultimately will make them a better team. The Cards believe they are four deep at cornerback and have the ability to match up with teams in man coverage. For the moment, Peterson looks a little lost at times working with the second unit. Still, his big, fast frame will give the Cards the ability to match up against big receivers such as Sidney Rice, Michael Crabtree and Mike Williams.

5. Concerns on defense: The two major concerns on defense are nose tackle and outside linebacker. Nose tackle Dan Williams is trying to play himself into shape. As camp enters its third week, he's running first-team, but he's still overweight. What's behind him is a concern. Nick Eason is a grizzled veteran who comes from the Steelers, and promising sixth-round pick David Carter weighs less than 280 pounds. Whisenhunt hired defensive coordinator Ray Horton from the Steelers to install Dick LeBeau's blitzing schemes. Linebackers Clark Haggans and Joey Porter grew up learning LeBeau's system when they were Steelers, but they are both 34 years old. Each had only five sacks last season, and for this defense to work, the outside linebackers need twice that amount. "Our stud outside linebackers got a few gray hairs on them, but we got the potential to be a good fire-zone blitz team,'' Horton said. To compensate for the age at outside linebacker, Horton will have to take a few extra gambles with his blitzes.
 

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Seems pretty accurate. Shocking as it may be with all the change on our offense, I think it is our defense that will determine if we make the playoffs (win the division).
 

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Clayton has praised us throughout the offseason. And while I agree about the improvements on offense, I think he's understating the defensive worries. Acho is practicing in front of Schofield tonight. It's a good sign that Acho is progressing, but it's also a bit of a troublesome sign for Schofield. If Schofield doesn't produce, it's going to take a lot more than a few extra gambles to generate a pass rush.
 

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Since when is Joe Flacco an "elite" quarterback. He's nowhere close to Brees, Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, and Rodgers.

He's solidly somewhere in the second tier, but he's not anywhere near "elite."

Also, I think that Horton is talking a bigger game than he'll be able to bring, when all is said and done.
 

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Since when is Joe Flacco an "elite" quarterback. He's nowhere close to Brees, Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, and Rodgers.

He's solidly somewhere in the second tier, but he's not anywhere near "elite."

Also, I think that Horton is talking a bigger game than he'll be able to bring, when all is said and done.

Concur. Flacco isn't elite. I'm hoping kolbs ceiling is a little better than Flacco. But if all we get is Joe Flacco the trade still will have been worth it IMO. You can win a SB with a Flacco type QB if you get the rest of the team in order. JMO.
 
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Since when is Joe Flacco an "elite" quarterback. He's nowhere close to Brees, Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, and Rodgers.

He's solidly somewhere in the second tier, but he's not anywhere near "elite."

Also, I think that Horton is talking a bigger game than he'll be able to bring, when all is said and done.

I think he's a step below that top group but I don't think the difference is as great as you make it out to be. As for Horton, the only way he'll be able to turn this defense around as quickly as he seems to think he will is if it turns out that our last DC really was as bad as some of us labelled him. I just don't think we've improved our personnel all that much (if at all) to make the kind of difference he's talking about.

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David Carter wieghs more than 280lbs. That is just silly.

Personally, from what little we have seen from Carter, he is a promising backup. He is lacking techinque, but his power is already where it needs to be.

He was way too high, and was not using his hands, practically at all, and still held his ground more times than not.

Yet, to be fair he got put on his butt once or twice as well.
 

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The Republic lists Carter as 6'5, 300 lbs. Whether 300 or 280, I think it's too light for NT. Eason looks more like a NT, size wise, but the team seems to like him at DE. I still think that after Larry is signed, that we'll bring in another NT. All in all, an optimistic writeup.
 

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I'm not sure about the Kolb and Flacco comparisons. If Kolb doesn't put up better numbers than Flacco then I will be disappointed. Kolb can easily have 3500+ yards and 25+ TDs.

I truly believe Heap and Housler are the major keys to this offense and the season. We haven't had the TE weapon, mainly because Warner and Whiz.
 

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The "51 new players" point (to prove that the Cards are in "rebuilding" mode)may be a bit misleading.

This means that 39 players have been here before with most logically expected to be on the final 53-man roster.

That would leave 14 newbies (including 8 draft picks). That's not a lot.

I'm not sure, therefore, that I'd consider this as "major rebuilding", but instead, the normal ebb and flow of guys leaving and guys arriving - all within the context of one of the most atypical offseasons in NFL history.

One thing missing from Clayton's article (unless I missed it while skimming) was shakiness at both offensive tackle positions. Neither Keith nor Levi can be considered Pro Bowl material at this time, Keith is still rehabbing and Bridges is our only proven backup at OT.

Finally, all the glowing reports about Beanie and our receivers presume that they'll all play close to mistake-free football going forward. I don't feel confident that this is a "given." The ball has to be secured. Balls have to be caught and plays have to be made - with a high degree of consistency. That, in my opinion, remains to be proved.
 

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To me, Flacco is still a good comparison to hear for right now. He developed quickly and earned the confidence of his teammates. When the Ravens have met the Steelers in the playoffs, I think most people would have given the nod to Roethlisberger by virtue of his Super Bowl ring(s), but beyond that probably not so much. These are two contenders, and that's what we want. Hoping for a Brady or a Manning is like hoping for Gretzky and Lemieux.
 
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Also, I think that Horton is talking a bigger game than he'll be able to bring, when all is said and done.
You could bring the best DC in history and he would still have trouble to make this a successful D. The FO absolutely refuses to bring in playmakers, so it's not a question of the DC's abilities, its all based upon the players inadequate talent.
 

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You could bring the best DC in history and he would still have trouble to make this a successful D. The FO absolutely refuses to bring in playmakers, so it's not a question of the DC's abilities, its all based upon the players inadequate talent.

Well, what is it? Bill Davis was the worst coordinator in the NFL and wasn't getting the most out of his talent, or that there isn't any talent on the defensive side of the football (despite that being the place where most of our (remaining) draft picks play and start) to compete at this level? It can't be both.

IMO, Davis was good, but the players weren't good enough. But that doesn't seem to be the prevailing sentiment on the board.
 

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IMO, Davis was good, but the players weren't good enough. But that doesn't seem to be the prevailing sentiment on the board.

What are you basing this on? I happen to think we have Top 12 talent on defense and have had no name hacks running the D.

I can't say Horton will be good for sure but at least he has the players respect and learned the zone blitz closely under Lebeau. Davis had his shot prior and sucked too. I would rather have the unknown upside then the established mediocre.
 

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What are you basing this on? I happen to think we have Top 12 talent on defense and have had no name hacks running the D.

I can't say Horton will be good for sure but at least he has the players respect and learned the zone blitz closely under Lebeau. Davis had his shot prior and sucked too. I would rather have the unknown upside then the established mediocre.

So... thank you for expressing the prevailing sentiment on the board in such a prickish way.
 

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So... thank you for expressing the prevailing sentiment on the board in such a prickish way.

Wait what? Lol

You must have read that wrong. I was honestly wondering why you felt Davis was good.

Ive definitely been prickisht to you before. This just wasn't one of those time.
 

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So... thank you for expressing the prevailing sentiment on the board in such a prickish way.

that was prickish?

personally, I don't think this team has anything close to top 12 talent on Defense anymore. i think the Super Bowl D had 5 MAJOR PLAYMAKERS on it... but three of those guys are gonzo and one of them isn't as good as he was due to age which leaves Dockett as the lone playmaker left from that d... but i also think neither Clancy, nor Davis got nearly enough out of the talent we DID have.
 

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Wait what? Lol

You must have read that wrong. I was honestly wondering why you felt Davis was good.

Ive definitely been prickisht to you before. This just wasn't one of those time.

Davis wasn't necessarily good, but he wasn't the problem with the defense last year. If you look at most of the big plays, you'll see that it wasn't like there were enormous holes in zones and the play was nowhere near a defender. Far more often than not there was a Cardinal defender in position to make a play, and the defender failed to do so.

Look no further than the games against the 49ers where Wilson was unable to wrap up Brian Westbrook's rotting corpse. How was that Bill Davis's fault? Or Joey Porter being unable to defeat single blocks against Mario Henderson? Those aren't coordinating problems; they're talent problems.

And we've exacerbated the talent problem by exiling one of the three best players on our defense in DRC.

As for the "prickish" remark, you should bold the sentiment you're responding to. I assumed that you were talking about the second sentence in the post, since that's what comes immediately before your response.
 

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Davis wasn't necessarily good, but he wasn't the problem with the defense last year. If you look at most of the big plays, you'll see that it wasn't like there were enormous holes in zones and the play was nowhere near a defender. Far more often than not there was a Cardinal defender in position to make a play, and the defender failed to do so.

Look no further than the games against the 49ers where Wilson was unable to wrap up Brian Westbrook's rotting corpse. How was that Bill Davis's fault? Or Joey Porter being unable to defeat single blocks against Mario Henderson? Those aren't coordinating problems; they're talent problems.

And we've exacerbated the talent problem by exiling one of the three best players on our defense in DRC.

As for the "prickish" remark, you should bold the sentiment you're responding to. I assumed that you were talking about the second sentence in the post, since that's what comes immediately before your response.

You point to very specific scenarios, but it doesn't paint the overall picture.

The players should own some the responsibility of the lack of defensive production, but Billy was the man responsible for cleaning up the mess and failed to do so. As a matter of fact, he was so bad, his system was being questioned by players such as AW. Billy's guys were checking out midway through. This much was apparent.

Part of being a coordinator (especially on a team where the coordinator is in effect the head coach of one side of the ball) is to hold players accountable, get in their heads and maximize talent. These areas are where Billy Davis failed. I know you like to pick on Joey Porter a lot, but how does he go from 9 sacks in a part-time role the previous season with Miami to 5 sacks in a full-time role with Arizona in one year? I understand he is aging, but he didn't go from 33 to 42 overnight. Dude still has pass rush talents. I don't understand definitively how talent like his went from productive to mediocre in one season, but I do know that the vibe on defense was far from positive last year.

Horton brings the schemes of a LeBeau-type defense. Whether he can execute it or not in game situations has yet to be determined. However, one thing's for sure is he is a breath of fresh air in the building. I've also read about how he has held players such as Dan Williams accountable for their short comings and conducted team-building activities with his players. So far, I like what I'm hearing.
 
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I just don't see how replacing Brian Robinson with Dan Williams and DRC with PP21/Jefferson is going to improve Defense from 29th to top 12.

Maybe if PP21 weren't a rookie and Big Dan didn't come to camp too big and Adub hadn't been hurt and Whisenhunt didn't have a track record of fielding mediocre at best Defenses.

But as long as our NT spot is suspect and the LBs are Haggans,Lenon,Washington, and Porter and ADub is at 76%, the Defense is going to be suspect no matter who is DC.

Tomorrow night will be interesting to see if another week has given Horton some time to put in what he wants. I know last week I couldn't tell the Cards had a new DC.
 

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I just don't see how replacing Brian Robinson with Dan Williams and DRC with PP21/Jefferson is going to improve Defense from 29th to top 12.
The biggest upgrade to our defense will be a new QB who keeps the defense off the field & makes it harder for other teams (& their offenses) play with a lead - i.e. more freedom to pull wild plays out of their butts, run the ball more to use up clock time in the 4Q etc. etc.

Second most overlooked factor figures to be the improvement of our younger players (like Schofield, DWash, Jefferson etc.)

Then there's the addition of other players like Bradley and Peterson - and conceivably Holliday. (Note that I don't include guys like Acho, Sturdivant and Carter because they still have a lot to prove - Peterson seems more of a sure thing than our other defensive rooks).

Not to say that there aren't reasons for skepticism - like A-Dub's health, Joey's age and shakiness/lack of depth at NT.

But those other factors at least create a path for us to get from #29 to the top 12.
 

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I know you like to pick on Joey Porter a lot, but how does he go from 9 sacks in a part-time role the previous season with Miami to 5 sacks in a full-time role with Arizona in one year? I understand he is aging, but he didn't go from 33 to 42 overnight. Dude still has pass rush talents. I don't understand definitively how talent like his went from productive to mediocre in one season, but I do know that the vibe on defense was far from positive last year.

TJ, the guy went from 17.5 sack in 2008 to 9 sacks in 2009 to 5 sacks in 2010... looks like a pretty steady regression, his production getting halved each season which is to be expected as a player falls a year further and further out of his prime. And players at 33 aren't usually as productive as Porter was at 33, but he had already slipped big from when he was 32, so why do you think it's strange that he'd slip again as he turned 34?
 

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The biggest upgrade to our defense will be a new QB who keeps the defense off the field & makes it harder for other teams (& their offenses) play with a lead - i.e. more freedom to pull wild plays out of their butts, run the ball more to use up clock time in the 4Q etc. etc.

I never have bought into that. Especially with Arizona. The Cards had three years of high powered offense and the defense was never any good. They gave up 426 points in 2008 and tried to give up numerous leads in both '08 and '09.

The Baltimore Ravens haven't had an offense ranked in the top 12 in yards gained in 13 years yet their Defense has been ranked in the top 10 eleven times during that period.

The offense leaving the Defense on the field too long is the oldest excuse in football.
 

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I never have bought into that. Especially with Arizona. The Cards had three years of high powered offense and the defense was never any good. They gave up 426 points in 2008 and tried to give up numerous leads in both '08 and '09.

The Baltimore Ravens haven't had an offense ranked in the top 12 in yards gained in 13 years yet their Defense has been ranked in the top 10 eleven times during that period.

The offense leaving the Defense on the field too long is the oldest excuse in football.

agreed.
 

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TJ, the guy went from 17.5 sack in 2008 to 9 sacks in 2009 to 5 sacks in 2010... looks like a pretty steady regression, his production getting halved each season which is to be expected as a player falls a year further and further out of his prime. And players at 33 aren't usually as productive as Porter was at 33, but he had already slipped big from when he was 32, so why do you think it's strange that he'd slip again as he turned 34?

Yes, but after his 17 sack season, he became a rotation/situation guy in Miami. He played far less snaps and still registered 9 sacks.

Then he plays full time in AZ and gets more snaps.

It's "strange" only because his snaps increased and his production decreased. So therefore, it's not a "steady" decline. It's a complete drop off.
 

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