Arizona State Basketball 2024-25

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

Bobby Hurley connects with former Sun Devils before Kansas game

ASU coach Bobby Hurley caught with Shannon Evans, Kodi Justice and Tra Holder before his Sun Devils return to Allen Fieldhouse to face Kansas.

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[Ronin]

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[AZJ]

Great first half! 6 point lead. Playing tough and out-rebounding Kansas.

 

[AZJ]

Boy, this game has gone belly up quickly. Can't make a shot, or even hold on to the ball.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

Let's line up this guy with Jayden Quaintance and Koa Peat next season.

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[AZCB34]

Let's line up this guy with Jayden Quaintance and Koa Peat next season.

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And Hurley will still find himself on the tournament bubble because that is what he does.

 

[AZJ]

Let's line up this guy with Jayden Quaintance and Koa Peat next season.

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Sounds like a really interesting prospect. What I just read says that he plays more like a forward. Can run the floor and even shoot the 3, shooting 42% over his last 12 games. Currently averaging 21 pts, 8 rebs and 2 blocks per game.

 

[AZJ]

Man, that was rough. Great run to force OT but then just a miserable overtime. Nothing fell and could not get a stop to save our lives.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Man, that was rough. Great run to force OT but then just a miserable overtime. Nothing fell and could not get a stop to save our lives.

We’re so outmanned in just about every game… Bobby needs to find more top-tier talent and more quality depth if we have any chance of competing in the Big 12.

 

[AZCB34]

We’re so outmanned in just about every game… Bobby needs to find more top-tier talent and more quality depth if we have any chance of competing in the Big 12.

I would argue he has the talent but cannot coach them up

 

[Ronin]

Adam Miller: ASU not as connected as opponents this season

Senior guard and vocal leader Adam Miller pointed out a lack of connectivity for ASU after an overtime loss to Baylor on Saturday.

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[AZJ]

I would argue he has the talent but cannot coach them up

This kinda feels like the case whenever we look bad. He's got two 5* dudes on the team now. He's had talented guys in the past. But, one thing that I've noticed for all of Hurley's teams, is that whenever things get tight, dudes very often lose it and I see a lot of 1 on 5 plays. Ball movement stops. Setting up good shots stops. Whoever has the ball just tries to run the show themselves and end up taking poor shots.

And I cannot remember the last time Bobby took a TO during an opponents run that actually did anything.

 

[Ronin]

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[ajcardfan]

This kinda feels like the case whenever we look bad. He's got two 5* dudes on the team now. He's had talented guys in the past. But, one thing that I've noticed for all of Hurley's teams, is that whenever things get tight, dudes very often lose it and I see a lot of 1 on 5 plays. Ball movement stops. Setting up good shots stops. Whoever has the ball just tries to run the show themselves and end up taking poor shots.

And I cannot remember the last time Bobby took a TO during an opponents run that actually did anything.

This has been my complaint about him for years. He lets his guards have too much freedom and doesn't really run an offense. You watch other teams and they call a timeout where they run a play and get a layup for a cutter or a wide open three. You almost never see great set plays by ASU under Hurley. Too much relying on his players athleticism. This should be a winning team but I doubt we are .500 in conference play.

 

[AZCB34]

This has been my complaint about him for years. He lets his guards have too much freedom and doesn't really run an offense. You watch other teams and they call a timeout where they run a play and get a layup for a cutter or a wide open three. You almost never see great set plays by ASU under Hurley. Too much relying on his players athleticism. This should be a winning team but I doubt we are .500 in conference play.

And I think the problem becomes, he might be the best coach ASU can expect to get. Now I qualify that by saying moving to the Big12 might actually help them but I’m not sure how much. I guess money talks so maybe they could upgrade.

I know you have been banging the drum for the team not running much of a set offense and I agree. And because he doesn’t, they make bad decisions, bad passes and bad shots

 

[MigratingOsprey]

And I think the problem becomes, he might be the best coach ASU can expect to get. Now I qualify that by saying moving to the Big12 might actually help them but I’m not sure how much. I guess money talks so maybe they could upgrade.

I know you have been banging the drum for the team not running much of a set offense and I agree. And because he doesn’t, they make bad decisions, bad passes and bad shots

I don't make a habit of watching ND basketball, but watched them play Duke yesterday - they ran a lot of really effective offense - but sure if it's their norm, or just playing to what Duke was providing, etc - it was nice though

The end game strategy was terrible by them, but the offense looked good

ASU doesn't have the talent and mismatches to run what they do as often as they do it.

I can never get a read on this team though. I think they get suckered into what teams give them.

When they didn't have above average shooters, they find ways to take a lot of deep shots.

If they do have a shooter, they tend to leave them stranded and get sucked into bad angles and shots by those who can't shoot as well

Or frequently just double around lost, move the ball with little purpose and then need to put up a bad shot because the shot clock is low

Regardless of what the talent actually is, it never seems to fully align with what they are doing

I wish Hurley would spend summers studying with his brother, who frequently finds ways to force defenses into really tough decisions or hire some strong assistants and listen to them

He's a PG and ran offenses as a player, but it just never seems to click - maybe it does come down to freedom vs structure preferences

 

[82CardsGrad]

This kinda feels like the case whenever we look bad. He's got two 5* dudes on the team now. He's had talented guys in the past. But, one thing that I've noticed for all of Hurley's teams, is that whenever things get tight, dudes very often lose it and I see a lot of 1 on 5 plays. Ball movement stops. Setting up good shots stops. Whoever has the ball just tries to run the show themselves and end up taking poor shots.

And I cannot remember the last time Bobby took a TO during an opponents run that actually did anything.

Those two 5 stars are freshman and Sanon doesn’t even start.
They sorely lack more top-level players and certainly lack quality depth.
Aside from Quantenance and maybe Freeman, there isn’t one other starter who would be a starter on another B12 team, let alone sniff the NBA…