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Cards becoming laughing carousel out in the desert
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/26/06

BY ERNIE PALLADINO
STAFF WRITER
Steve Mariucci had better watch out. The Arizona Cardinals are after him to become their next coach.
We're not joking around here. Dennis Green is on his way out after these last six games, according to an on-line service, and they're apparently going after the former 49ers and Lions coach.
If Mariucci is smart, he'll turn off his cell phone, home phone and voice mail at the NFL Network, where he currently works as an analyst.
It's not that Glendale, Ariz., isn't a nice place. It is. Lots of sun. Brand, spanking new ballpark the Cardinals christened with a win before they dropped eight straight. Great golf nearby if you're into that.
It's just that, well, how can we put this tactfully? Arizona is the place where head coaching careers go to die.
Wonder if anybody will ever touch Green again after his coaching performance this year, an act that came complete with a wacko postgame meltdown following his team's on-field meltdown against the Bears on Monday Night Football.
But that's for future argument. A look at the past shows that Cardinals management has hired almost no one in the last quarter century that has gone on to another head coaching job.
Green's predecessor, Dave McGinnis, is currently the Titans' linebackers coach after heading the Cardinals from 2000-03.
Vince Tobin (1996-2000) went to the Packers in 2004 as a special assistant, basically a glorified consultant.
Buddy Ryan, already old enough to have known better when he took the job, coached the Cardinals between 1994 and '95 and never returned to the sidelines. He breeds racehorses now at his Kentucky farm.
You have to go all the way back to Joe Bugel (1990-93) for the last one to get another head coaching job. And that was for an equally bad organization in Oakland, where he was fired after his first and only season there in 1997.
Gene Stallings (1986-89)? Smart guy. Moved down to Alabama and coached seven seasons in college.
Jim Hanifan (1980-85 in St. Louis)? An interim job with the Falcons, but after that it was back to the offensive line with the Redskins and Rams before retiring.
Mercy dictates we not go back any further. The point is, coaches can even get fired by the Lions and still be desirable, as the Mariucci rumor proves.
The Cardinals? Dead end-ville.
It's a bad organization. Always has been, always will be as long as the Bidwills — dad Bill, and sons Michael and Bill Jr. — own the team.
They do serve well as comic relief, however. It's because of them that our Mariucci story takes a humorous turn.
Seems Bill Jr., a vice president like his brother, had been pushed to the background by Michael. It was Michael who helped hire Tobin and McGinnis and Green. But now the other brother, not a lawyer like Michael but a personnel and scouting guy, wants a bigger say. He's been lobbying dear old Dad for that lately, thus ticking off his brother.
Once they do launch Green, it will be interesting to see what kind of drama plays out behind the executive office doors. Could be Shakespearean. Oh. The Cardinals. Right. Maybe we need to go Three Stooges here.
That's the nice part about the Cardinals. They stink, no matter how much talent they have. They may always stink. But somehow they give you a good laugh along the way.
Ernie Palladino:
 

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Wow, this is truely earth-shattering reporting here.
The amount of research needed for such an insightful piece, must have taken months.
 

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Seeing as the Bidwills haven't sold the team yet...it seems they still think they are "well qualified" to pick the next coach. Even though it is obvious to the masses and historically noted they can't...the Bidwills continue believing they have what it takes to make a great hire. What kinda game are they playing?

Perhaps maybe one of them should try to coach the Cardinals. Bill Bidwill Jr. - you want more "power" because you think you can pick a coach to lead this team. Well then...if your that qualified...why don't you yourself become the Arizona Cardinals new head coach then? Let's see what kind of results you get. :rolleyes:
 
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Nothing we don't know already,just thought it was rare for anyone out of state to bother writing about us.
 

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Cards becoming laughing carousel out in the desert

This guy lost all credibility in this title alone..... We have been a laughing carousel for years now.... :(
 

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As much as I want DG gone, I still believe he's a good coach. Unfortunately it wasn't proven on the field. Ours is a "special" situation requiring a "special" individual to handle it.
 

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As much as I want DG gone, I still believe he's a good coach. Unfortunately it wasn't proven on the field. Ours is a "special" situation requiring a "special" individual to handle it.

Yea...as in "Little Yellow Bus Special"
 

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As much as I want DG gone, I still believe he's a good coach. Unfortunately it wasn't proven on the field. Ours is a "special" situation requiring a "special" individual to handle it.

That's funny. Because this year, I went from thinking that Green was a good coach, to someone I wouldn't want touching the PeeWee league my son is in.
 

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As much as I want DG gone, I still believe he's a good coach. Unfortunately it wasn't proven on the field. Ours is a "special" situation requiring a "special" individual to handle it.

What exactly leads you to that conclusion? He has failed in EVERY aspect of COACHING this team...the Bidwills have ponied up the cash for the first time in years and the 'talent' has not been COACHED with any success. Belichick seems to COACH UP his late round selections to consistently produce quality TEAMS...that is what a COACH is SUPPOSED to be ABLE to do...DG does not have that ability and he has a record to prove it....He is responsible for the debacle of 2006 and his coaching personnel selections have provided the "yes men" to keep his ego in tact...ALL unable or unwiliing to rock the boat, or COACH UP the players that are wasting OUR time and the Bidwills money.
 

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It was Michael who helped hire Tobin and McGinnis and Green.

I don't think so. M. Bidwill didn't really get involved until the Cards went after the new stadium and at that time, he wasn't making any football decisions, only helping to get the stadium issue passed.
 

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Nothing we don't know already,just thought it was rare for anyone out of state to bother writing about us.

What's he supposed to write about? How the Giants are self-imploding? How the Jets continue to be mediocre? :p
 

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Oh to be mediocre right about now.:bang:

Andy:

That's it! The Cardinals' answer to the Raiders' "Commitment to Excellence" (not very committed in recent years, granted):

"ASPIRE TO MEDIOCRITY."​

Gives you chills, dunnit?

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At this point I am finally glad to see these kind of pieces. The Bidwills ought to feel pressure to either take the extreme measures to bring in a GM with massive control or sell the team. I've made all the arguments to support these people there are to make; they got a bad deal having to play in a crap facility for twenty years, they've never had a home of their own, didn't have the revenue streams, had a lot of bad breaks, on and on and on. I'm done. I don't believe anymore. At the very least the Bidwills shouldn't feel comfortable. They should see their dreams of a nationwide market for Matt Leinart jerseys and whatnot counteracted by writers in NJ who point out that these owners have cornered the market for constant losing. When jackasses like this writer don't have anything to fill the column, they should fall right back on the Bidwills astonishing ability to suck in the face of guaranteed league wide-parity sooner or later for every other team. I'm all for these articles now. Glad to see it. My worry is, they are so used to this, they don't give a rat's ass. But you can always hope. Maybe one day, they'll take the steps to end their place as the one team in the NFL thats too weak to take whats theirs.
 

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i am going to take phrase from aaron brooks this past week. it is a player league and ultimaly up to the players to perform.
 

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The Asbury Park Press is my local daily. In terms of local coverage, I'm not impressed by its thoroughness, objectivity or accuracy. (They tend to "shine the flashlight" to go where things fit their editorial policies and avoid shining it in areas where things don't mesh with their editorial views).

They're part of the Gannett chain, and my guess is that the article on Cardinal coaching was a syndicated pickup from Gannett HQ.

By now, the list of potential 2007 Cardinal coaches is probably close to the 20-mark and still growing. My guess is that - while most of those reports are speculation by individual reporters which quickly morph into full-blown rumors picked up by the media herd - we may find one or more of them will turn out to be true.

But which one(s)? Hmmmm.
 

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What exactly leads you to that conclusion? He has failed in EVERY aspect of COACHING this team...the Bidwills have ponied up the cash for the first time in years and the 'talent' has not been COACHED with any success. Belichick seems to COACH UP his late round selections to consistently produce quality TEAMS...that is what a COACH is SUPPOSED to be ABLE to do...DG does not have that ability and he has a record to prove it....He is responsible for the debacle of 2006 and his coaching personnel selections have provided the "yes men" to keep his ego in tact...ALL unable or unwiliing to rock the boat, or COACH UP the players that are wasting OUR time and the Bidwills money.

I'm going strictly off of his success with the Vikings JC. I also think he had a lot more there than he did here which may have masked a lot of his shortcomings. He would be okay in the right situation, but I digress. He's not good enough to make winners out of the Cards.
 

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I'm going strictly off of his success with the Vikings JC. I also think he had a lot more there than he did here which may have masked a lot of his shortcomings. He would be okay in the right situation, but I digress. He's not good enough to make winners out of the Cards.

What he had in Minnesota were REAL assistant coaches who were able to implement a plan to be successful with the talent he had... he chose his assistants here, he failed to make the right choices, he failed to MANAGE the resources he was provided and every loss was someone else's fault...he is done, and he no longer possesses the skillset, the connections or the energy to be a head coach in the NFL...another Cardinal 'has been' brought in as the great hope... See Emmit, See Kurt, See Edge, See Buddy, etc. Look up the assistants he had in Minnesota and you will see why he was considered successful...his reputation POST Minnesota was enough to steer any quality position coaches in this direction.
 

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with all the stuff going on in this guys backyard (g men and jets) why bother writing about the cards??? i think he would be better served by going to the stone pony in asbury park or walk the boardwalk....he might catch "the boss" somewhere on asbury ave.
 

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At this point I am finally glad to see these kind of pieces. The Bidwills ought to feel pressure to either take the extreme measures to bring in a GM with massive control or sell the team. I've made all the arguments to support these people there are to make; they got a bad deal having to play in a crap facility for twenty years, they've never had a home of their own, didn't have the revenue streams, had a lot of bad breaks, on and on and on. I'm done. I don't believe anymore. At the very least the Bidwills shouldn't feel comfortable. They should see their dreams of a nationwide market for Matt Leinart jerseys and whatnot counteracted by writers in NJ who point out that these owners have cornered the market for constant losing. When jackasses like this writer don't have anything to fill the column, they should fall right back on the Bidwills astonishing ability to suck in the face of guaranteed league wide-parity sooner or later for every other team. I'm all for these articles now. Glad to see it. My worry is, they are so used to this, they don't give a rat's ass. But you can always hope. Maybe one day, they'll take the steps to end their place as the one team in the NFL thats too weak to take whats theirs.

These kinds of articles have been written about the Bidwills for years, either they don't read them at all.. or just don't give a crap.
I say the latter.
 

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