Bears Trade #1 Pick to Panthers

[Krangodnzr]

We are trading 3 it is all but certain. Only way it doesn’t happen is if teams lose interest in a 3rd qb

I don't think it's certain at all.

 

[Garthshort]

I just don't see anyone giving us a Kings ransom to move up one spot especially if they know we're likely going defense - and I hope folks don't try and blame Monti when it doesn't happen

Not saying that it would be a Kings Ransom. There's a chart which shows what it would cost to move up a spot, but I don't know what it is worth in picks. Also, possible that it includes a player. Remember on Draft Day QB's always go higher than expected. And Richardson is getting a lot of buzz.

 

[Harry]

CBS is now predicting an Indy trade with Cards getting No. 4, No. 164, 2024 second.

 

[PACardsFan]

Interesting scenario.

Although I think that Seattle will be content to let Carter drop to them.

Carter is exactly what that Seattle defense needs, so I agree that they would run to the podium to draft him. I personally think that Carter is more valuable to the Cardinals than Anderson is, but I don’t think the Cardinals would draft Carter. The only way I see us drafting Carter is if he’s completely exonerated & we trade down twice & he‘s still there. I think if we trade down ONCE to around 8, and he’s there, the haul we would get makes it possibly worth the risk of drafting him.

 

[Harry]

Carter is exactly what that Seattle defense needs, so I agree that they would run to the podium to draft him. I personally think that Carter is more valuable to the Cardinals than Anderson is, but I don’t think the Cardinals would draft Carter. The only way I see us drafting Carter is if he’s completely exonerated & we trade down twice & he‘s still there. I think if we trade down ONCE to around 8, and he’s there, the haul we would get makes it possibly worth the risk of drafting him.

I’m hearing he doesn’t get past Seattle.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

CBS is now predicting an Indy trade with Cards getting No. 4, No. 164, 2024 second.

So a 5th this year and 2nd next year

Is that enough?

 

[BritCard]

Carter is exactly what that Seattle defense needs, so I agree that they would run to the podium to draft him. I personally think that Carter is more valuable to the Cardinals than Anderson is, but I don’t think the Cardinals would draft Carter. The only way I see us drafting Carter is if he’s completely exonerated & we trade down twice & he‘s still there. I think if we trade down ONCE to around 8, and he’s there, the haul we would get makes it possibly worth the risk of drafting him.

I think by the time the draft comes round that the whole Carter thing will be handled and considered a minor infraction. I don't expect him to get past the Lions at 6, if not the Seahawks.

 

[QuebecCard]

So a 5th this year and 2nd next year

Is that enough?

It's gravy.

You'll be happy to have an extra 2nd in next year's draft.

 

[BritCard]

So a 5th this year and 2nd next year

Is that enough?

It's not a lot considering how desperate the Colt's will be.

I'm at least taking this years #79 too.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

It's not a lot considering how desperate the Colt's will be.

I'm at least taking this years #79 too.

I was thinking it was a little short this year

#79 would be better

Next year's 2nd is really nice

 

[Totally_Red]

So a 5th this year and 2nd next year

Is that enough?

That depends on any other offers. If Vegas, for example, offers next year's one it is not enough.

 

[Harry]

So a 5th this year and 2nd next year

Is that enough?

Yes for nothing

 

[Garthshort]

CBS is now predicting an Indy trade with Cards getting No. 4, No. 164, 2024 second.

Any chance that the Colts would trade their center, Jones who might be released or traded, per reports, to the Cards for a switch of first round picks?

 

[QuebecCard]

Any chance that the Colts would trade their center, Jones who might be released or traded, per reports, to the Cards for a switch of first round picks?

Ryan Kelly is the Colts' centre.

 

[Stout]

A 2nd next year and a pick this year for drafting the same player we were going to draft anyway? Sure.

 

[Shane]

A 2nd next year and a pick this year for drafting the same player we were going to draft anyway? Sure.

100

 

[daves]

What I fear is that the Seahawks will become enamored with Anderson and just jump the Cardinals.

We have to hope that the Texans are really enamored with a QB. I know when you need one it's easy to fall in love with lesser guys, but if the Texans are smart, they will understand that Young is a very meh prospect at QB. I see him as a short Bridgewater.

I raised the question in another thread of whether the Cardinals should trade UP for Anderson in another thread. If the Texans call & say the Seahawks are trying to trade up, should the Cardinals give up say a 3rd to make sure they don't get jumped? But the consensus there was that even though Anderson is considered the #1 prospect in the draft and is a position of need, he was only worth the #3 pick and nothing more, the Cardinals should just wait and hope he drops to 3, and no one would complain if the Cardinals missed out on him.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Getting back to Carter for a moment, Couldn't a team simply put in his contract something about no speeding tickets, DUIs, negligent accidents, etc. If he commits any of these types of infractions, then his contract is voided or diminished considerably. Wouldn't that put teams minds at ease in regards to his future, or at least give them an out?

 

[Stout]

Getting back to Carter for a moment, Couldn't a team simply put in his contract something about no speeding tickets, DUIs, negligent accidents, etc. If he commits any of these types of infractions, then his contract is voided or diminished considerably. Wouldn't that put teams minds at ease in regards to his future, or at least give them an out?

And no high draft pick will ever sign that contract.

 

[QuebecCard]

Getting back to Carter for a moment, Couldn't a team simply put in his contract something about no speeding tickets, DUIs, negligent accidents, etc. If he commits any of these types of infractions, then his contract is voided or diminished considerably. Wouldn't that put teams minds at ease in regards to his future, or at least give them an out?

While we're at it, why not read the whole criminal code into everyone's contract?

 

[Shane]

While we're at it, why not read the whole criminal code into everyone's contract?

While your sarcasm is noted it’s not unheard of for behavior clauses in big money contracts with people that have a history. It’s certainly been done before. It’s not like that’s completely out of left field.

 

[QuebecCard]

While your sarcasm is noted it’s not unheard of for behavior clauses in big money contracts with people that have a history. It’s certainly been done before. It’s not like that’s completely out of left field.

I imagine, but Carter was not cited for either speeding or drinking and driving, from what I've read.

 

[Shane]

I imagine, but Carter was not cited for either speeding or drinking and driving, from what I've read.

He was indicted on two criminal charges??? Has something changed? It also shows a clear lack of good decision making. Not that I think it will affect his draft status like many here do.

 

[Garthshort]

Ryan Kelly is the Colts' centre.

Thanks. Brain cramp. That's who I meant.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

CBS is now predicting an Indy trade with Cards getting No. 4, No. 164, 2024 second.

To do that and end up with Anderson would be boss.