Best Case

[sinsay]

That more drafts I see the more I think best case is for Carson palmer to play two seasons. That way cards can draft BPA in this talent-rich draft. Starting with peppers next year better QB'S and fewer teams will need them. Cards will also have fewer needs next season. Carson then can teach the QB for a year walking into a rebuilt team.

Draft

1. J Peppers (S) He is a perfect for the Cards defense.

2. Zay Jones (WR) All he does is get open he is going to continue to get open he will be a solid number two WR maybe grow into a number 1.

3.Cordrea Tankersley (CB) sign a Vet CB

4.Anthony Walker (ILB) Resign Sio Moore

5.Damontae Kazee (CB) Double up for depth for future most ALL CB need a year to develop. He can play in the slot if bethel does not work out.

5.Braden Smith (G)

I can see a scenario where 4 out 6 of them starting the 2nd year in the league with the first two picks with major playing time the first year.

 

[DVontel]

Um, no thanks.

 

[Mitch]

That more drafts I see the more I think best case is for Carson palmer to play two seasons. That way cards can draft BPA in this talent-rich draft. Starting with peppers next year better QB'S and fewer teams will need them. Cards will also have fewer needs next season. Carson then can teach the QB for a year walking into a rebuilt team.

Draft

1. J Peppers (S) He is a perfect for the Cards defense.

2. Zay Jones (WR) All he does is get open he is going to continue to get open he will be a solid number two WR maybe grow into a number 1.

3.Cordrea Tankersley (CB) sign a Vet CB

4.Anthony Walker (ILB) Resign Sio Moore

5.Damontae Kazee (CB) Double up for depth for future most ALL CB need a year to develop. He can play in the slot if bethel does not work out.

5.Braden Smith (G)

I can see a scenario where 4 out 6 of them starting the 2nd year in the league with the first two picks with major playing time the first year.

I think all of these picks are excellent. The only one that seems a little unrealistic is Kazee in the 5th round. Could see him going late 3rd to middle 4th. Good work!

 

[Garthshort]

Two things:

1. Sign a vet CB. Who??
2. Peppers is a football player, and he brings a great many talents to the table. My only concern is where will the Cardinals play him? And I don't mean his ST skills, but where on defense do we play him? Because when we know his position, then we'd have a better idea if there is a better 'pick' who can play that position.

 

[Mitch]

Two things:

1. Sign a vet CB. Who??
2. Peppers is a football player, and he brings a great many talents to the table. My only concern is where will the Cardinals play him? And I don't mean his ST skills, but where on defense do we play him? Because when we know his position, then we'd have a better idea if there is a better 'pick' who can play that position.

If you draft 2 CBs as sinsay did, there is no need to sign a veteran CB. Even one might be enough.

 

[Reign Blood]

If you draft 2 CBs as sinsay did, there is no need to sign a veteran CB. Even one might be enough.

Ya drafting a tweener like Peppers is a gamble then we get two cb's that are unproven and one nobody wants.

 

[Stout]

You say have Palmer play 2 more seasons as if it's just guaranteed to be a good thing, and guaranteed that he wants to keep playing then. I very much want this to be his last season, because I don't see him having much left in the tank by 2018--if he even wants to play.

 

[WisconsinCard]

You say have Palmer play 2 more seasons as if it's just guaranteed to be a good thing, and guaranteed that he wants to keep playing then. I very much want this to be his last season, because I don't see him having much left in the tank by 2018--if he even wants to play.

Just curious as to why you think this? CP has had two of the best years of his career the last two years. IMO

 

[Stout]

Just curious as to why you think this? CP has had two of the best years of his career the last two years. IMO

Not last year, he didn't. He finished strong, which is why I came back on board with him returning as a starter in 2017, but I was less than pleased with him for a long stretch of the season. I think we'd be crazy to rely on him past 2017.

 

[JeffGollin]

Two things:

1. Sign a vet CB. Who??
2. Peppers is a football player, and he brings a great many talents to the table. My only concern is where will the Cardinals play him? And I don't mean his ST skills, but where on defense do we play him? Because when we know his position, then we'd have a better idea if there is a better 'pick' who can play that position.

Our Swiss Army Knife. Play him behind Bucannon at $LB - Makes us 2-deep at a critical position. Have him also backup Mathieu in the nickel. (& should he beat out either starter, so much the better).

 

[WisconsinCard]

Not last year, he didn't. He finished strong, which is why I came back on board with him returning as a starter in 2017, but I was less than pleased with him for a long stretch of the season. I think we'd be crazy to rely on him past 2017.

Check his stats his passer rating is lower last year but he threw for more yards then any other year. He has had career years the last two years. I for one think he can play until he is at least 40. I mean you never know when any player will "hit the wall" but I don't CP is there yet.

 

[Snakester]

Good picks. The only one I wouldn't take is Peppers. I just think we have many other positions that we should address first. For instance QB- Trubisky or Mahomes. ILB-Reuben Foster or Hassan Reddick. WR- Corey Davis or Mike Williams and any number of the Cornerbacks I would take first.

 

[WildBB]

Best case is trade down and get another 2nd rounder. Or 3rd and 4-5th for a possible trade up later. That way the many holes can be filled along with a QB possibly. Next year who knows where we'll be drafting...hopefully 32!

 

[Lagerfilled]

Best case is trade down and get another 2nd rounder. Or 3rd and 4-5th for a possible trade up later. That way the many holes can be filled along with a QB possibly. Next year who knows where we'll be drafting...hopefully 32!

Or 31! I fear that nobody is beating NE next year unless they have some significant injuries.

 

[Jetstream Green]

If you draft 2 CBs as sinsay did, there is no need to sign a veteran CB. Even one might be enough.

One, two, all seven picks going to corner back would unfortunately not be enough because as stated they all need a year from the baptismal of fire which they all experience regardless of how many pro bowls they might achieve due to the tremendous jump from college to NFL (and it is a huge jump where even the backup WRs where quality starters on the college stage) and the rule changes where even looking in the direction of a WR can get you in trouble haha. And if Bethel cannot cut it in the slot is not the problem, it is one of our guys being able to handle being the red headed stepchild playing the number two opposite of Peterson which will get picked on and that requires a vet to at least prevent the big plays in my opinion... I hope after June first the Cardinals can find a vet

 

[sinsay]

My point is this one the CB cards draft two this year in hopes the can play in 2018.
Sign a vet CB to play this upcoming season across from PP.

Peppers should play SS he may grow into the best SS in the game with his athletic ability and football spirit. He is a perfect Cards player versatile and loves football.

Cards need a WR but the first round is early for them to take one so I think Zay in the 2nd is a good fit he gets open all day had 158 catches last season.

 

[WildBB]

They will only have 1 spot

My point is this one the CB cards draft two this year in hopes the can play in 2018.
Sign a vet CB to play this upcoming season across from PP.

Peppers should play SS he may grow into the best SS in the game with his athletic ability and football spirit. He is a perfect Cards player versatile and loves football.

Cards need a WR but the first round is early for them to take one so I think Zay in the 2nd is a good fit he gets open all day had 158 catches last season.

They"ll only have room for 1 more CB on the 53 man roster. They'll only draft 1. Too many other positions to attend to.

 

[JeffGollin]

They will only have 1 spot

They"ll only have room for 1 more CB on the 53 man roster. They'll only draft 1. Too many other positions to attend to.

Cards always have the option of cutting a player to make room for a new player. It needn't be corner for a corner. With 80 guys on a roster, they could, say, cut a LB or WR to make rom for an extra corner. And when they have to cut down to 53, the best corners will stay and the worst ones will go bye bye.

 

[Lagerfilled]

Cards always have the option of cutting a player to make room for a new player. It needn't be corner for a corner. With 80 guys on a roster, they could, say, cut a LB or WR to make rom for an extra corner. And when they have to cut down to 53, the best corners will stay and the worst ones will go bye bye.

I agree! There's really only one spot. They're not cutting BWill after drafting him in the 3rd after one season of struggles. They also need to see what they have in long, Elie Bouka, who is one year removed from Achilles and can also return kicks. I don't think they're cutting Bethel, who's our best ST player. Plus we have Badger playing Nickel CB/FS and Harlan Miller.

 

[Garthshort]

Jeff, you make a point, but when you pick at #13, I think you want a starter and not a backup.

 

[Solar7]

Or 31! I fear that nobody is beating NE next year unless they have some significant injuries.

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[Lagerfilled]

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You're right!!! The Giants seem to be Brady's kryptonite. But that was the Coughlin Giants. Guess we'll see!

 

[JeffGollin]

Jeff, you make a point, but when you pick at #13, I think you want a starter and not a backup.

Garth - I was making a separate point - that we wouldn't be restricted to only drafting one corner because we could only have a certain number of CB's on our roster.

At #13, you want to draft the available player who can most help your team achieve its chief objectives.

In 90 (some would say 100) percent of the cases, the chief objective would be to maximum wins.

And in 90 of the cases, the player who can best help us achieve our key objectives will be BPA. (The other 10% of the time, you could have such an atrocious hole at a key position in your roster that the best thing you can do is to draft for need; but that's an extreme position that we're nowhere near).

But the BPA needn't necessarily be a CB - My board rates 3 safeties, a TE and a couple of IlB's and 2 edge guys ahead of any of the corners (Doesn't make me right; it's just how I see it).

 

[Goldfield]

Garth - I was making a separate point - that we wouldn't be restricted to only drafting one corner because we could only have a certain number of CB's on our roster.

At #13, you want to draft the available player who can most help your team achieve its chief objectives.

In 90 (some would say 100) percent of the cases, the chief objective would be to maximum wins.

And in 90 of the cases, the player who can best help us achieve our key objectives will be BPA. (The other 10% of the time, you could have such an atrocious hole at a key position in your roster that the best thing you can do is to draft for need; but that's an extreme position that we're nowhere near).

But the BPA needn't necessarily be a CB - My board rates 3 safeties, a TE and a couple of IlB's and 2 edge guys ahead of any of the corners (Doesn't make me right; it's just how I see it).

I understand BPA but it has to have your roster influence your pick somewhat. If BPA is a RB do you take him with Johnson looking like a young star? Nope you take the next best player that makes sense on your roster or trade down and risk missing out on a more talented player

 

[JeffGollin]

I understand BPA but it has to have your roster influence your pick somewhat. If BPA is a RB do you take him with Johnson looking like a young star? Nope you take the next best player that makes sense on your roster or trade down and risk missing out on a more talented player

Some would point out that, if you bypassed a RB and, say, drafted a WR with a lower rating, it would be "Cardinal luck" that D Johnson and other RB's would suffer a rash of injuries & we'd be screwed. Better we use our pick to draft the most talented player available and let the chips fall.

Note - A few years ago, SK described his rating system as generally BPA but weighted to include position-fit/need into each player's rating. So we get to have our cake and eat it too.