Bills RB Henry prepared to sit out until trade demand met

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

resign hill. trade shelton and whatever other garbage they want (other than any draft pick higher than 5) to get henry in here. draft johnson if he falls, if not one of the cbs. if we get johnson then draft nothing but cbs. one of 'em's bound to pan out. right? if we don't get johnson take one of the cbs, then in the second either get a guard or te, then take cbs with the rest of the picks. select me in the seventh round for fun. i'll sign for the minimum with a $50,000 signing bonus. then i'll serve as ASFN unknown insider informant until i get cut the first day of training camp.

 

[Red Dawn]

Here's another tidbit:

Bills | Henry Says He Will Not Return to Buffalo - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:40:32 -0800

Associated Press reports Buffalo Bills RB Travis Henry is intent to sit out as long as it takes for the team to trade him. Henry said he is not returning to the Bills and will not take part in minicamps or training camp. "I packed my stuff and left. As soon as the season was over, I was out of there and I didn't have any plans of coming back," Henry told the AP. The Bills put Henry on the trading block earlier in the year and reportedly received an offer of Arizona Cardinals OLT L.J. Shelton for him. However, the Bills did not take the deal and Henry is confused as to why they did not considering they need help on the offensive line. Henry said the whole situation is frustrating and he just wants to move on with his life and career.

 

[The Commish]

I'll take Travis Henry, and Arrington in the 2nd.

Can't have too many backs.

I agree completely, but if we get Henry, then I think our 2nd round will be devoted to CB's and/or a TE. I would bet that we take a flyer on Maurice Clarett if somehow this deal goes through.

 

[Assface]

resign hill. trade shelton and whatever other garbage they want (other than any draft pick higher than 5) to get henry in here. draft johnson if he falls, if not one of the cbs. if we get johnson then draft nothing but cbs. one of 'em's bound to pan out. right? if we don't get johnson take one of the cbs, then in the second either get a guard or te, then take cbs with the rest of the picks. select me in the seventh round for fun. i'll sign for the minimum with a $50,000 signing bonus. then i'll serve as ASFN unknown insider informant until i get cut the first day of training camp.

How very gracious of you.

 

[red desert]

...and there's something about electric rookie running backs that can completely jolt an offense.

Well put. That really is an astute observation.

 

[Russ Smith]

May I ask why you wouldnt want him Russ?

I'm not convinced he's going to be all that good, I think he's going to expect a lot more in a new contract than he's probably worth, and if people haven't noticed Henry has been pretty "outspoken" the last year or so, if he's not happy everyone will know.

I think he's a good not great RB and until we know for sure we're not going to get a younger, healthier, potentially more complete RB in the draft, we shouldn't give up a valuable player, Shelton, for Henry.

now if we go CB or Derrick johnson at 8 and then discover our guy is gone in the 2nd round (Arrington, Fason etc), then by all means resurrect the deal, we get a starting RB, they get Shelton.

 

[Russ Smith]

Then we have NO leverage. Buffalo would be holding all the cards at that point.

Sure we do, at our pick in the 2nd round even if our first choice isn't there I gotta believe SOMEONE will be there worthy of the pick. So it's then a do we prefer Henry or whoever. Buffalo has no leverage they don't want to cut Henry or give him away and he wants out and will be a major distraction if they keep him.

leverage is about equal IMHO.

 

[az jam]

Thanks for the posting Thunder Card. I had not seen it.

I would definitely trade Shelton straight up for Henry. Its a win win for both teams. I would also draft a rb but not with pick#8 but on day one. We could get a shut down cb at #8 either Rolle, Pac Man or Carlos Rogers. I"m sure that two of the three will be there.

 

[RedStorm]

resign hill. trade shelton and whatever other garbage they want (other than any draft pick higher than 5) to get henry in here. draft johnson if he falls, if not one of the cbs. if we get johnson then draft nothing but cbs. one of 'em's bound to pan out. right? if we don't get johnson take one of the cbs, then in the second either get a guard or te, then take cbs with the rest of the picks. select me in the seventh round for fun. i'll sign for the minimum with a $50,000 signing bonus. then i'll serve as ASFN unknown insider informant until i get cut the first day of training camp.

I heard a rumor....so take it as you will...

You will be a day 5 draftee. Sure thing.

Good luck.

 

[Renz]

Sure we do, at our pick in the 2nd round even if our first choice isn't there I gotta believe SOMEONE will be there worthy of the pick. So it's then a do we prefer Henry or whoever. Buffalo has no leverage they don't want to cut Henry or give him away and he wants out and will be a major distraction if they keep him.

leverage is about equal IMHO.

Personally, I think an established pro like Henry has much more value than a second rounder like Arrington, who could turn out to be the next Leland McElroy.

If we don't trade for Henry then we'd BETTER get Brown, Williams or Benson IMO.

 

[Pariah]

If we get Henry, okay; it plugs a hole more than adequately. But, if we don't get him and end up with a RB at #8, I like that even better.

Yeah, Henry's proven and a draft pick could end up being Thomas Jones, but the gamble is this: Henry is never going to be a "special" back, and any one of those guys at the top of the RB crop this year could be. Sue me, I like to gamble.

 

[Scott MS]

No matter what happens, the Cards need to sign an experienced RB, CB, or TE. You won't be able to get all three starters from the draft.

I like the idea of trading for Henry, but I thought the rumor was that Henry wouldn't honor his existing contract and extend it, rather he wanted a new contract next season.

Wow. Re-signing Freddie Jones might look like a good move now.



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[Shane]

If we get Henry, okay; it plugs a hole more than adequately. But, if we don't get him and end up with a RB at #8, I like that even better.

Yeah, Henry's proven and a draft pick could end up being Thomas Jones, but the gamble is this: Henry is never going to be a "special" back, and any one of those guys at the top of the RB crop this year could be. Sue me, I like to gamble.

Whats your idea of special? A RB that puts up back to back 1350 yard season and double digit TDs is pretty damned special IMO.

 

[Pariah]

Whats your idea of special? A RB that puts up back to back 1350 yard season and double digit TDs is pretty damned special IMO.

Not to me. That's a very good running back, but not special. Payton was special. Jim Brown was special. Barry Sanders was special.

Travis Henry is a good RB, don't get me wrong, but he'll never be special.

 

[Pariah]

Whats your idea of special? A RB that puts up back to back 1350 yard season and double digit TDs is pretty damned special IMO.

You're looking at a 1350 yd. RB like a starving man looks at a hamburger. When you haven't had one in ages, it looks special and it IS good. But, after you've had it, you realize it was just a hamburger and steaks are a lot better.

 

[Shane]

Not to me. That's a very good running back, but not special. Payton was special. Jim Brown was special. Barry Sanders was special.

Travis Henry is a good RB, don't get me wrong, but he'll never be special.

So you think that all 3 RBs in this draft have better than 1350 and double digit TD potential? Or are you hoping they do?

 

[Shane]

You're looking at a 1350 yd. RB like a starving man looks at a hamburger. When you haven't had one in ages, it looks special and it IS good. But, after you've had it, you realize it was just a hamburger and steaks are a lot better.

 

[Pariah]

So you think that all 3 RBs in this draft have better than 1350 and double digit TD potential? Or are you hoping they do?

Yeah, I think they all have that potential; don't you? I only hope they do if they play for us, though.

 

[Shane]

Yeah, I think they all have that potential; don't you? I only hope they do if they play for us, though.

Honestly no. I like all 3 but feel that at the minimum 1 will be a bust one will be average and 1 will be great. I would rather take the chances of a proven entity instead of gambling as you say!

 

[Pariah]

Honestly no. I like all 3 but feel that at the minimum 1 will be a bust one will be average and 1 will be great. I would rather take the chances of a proven entity instead of gambling as you say!

Fair 'nuff. I can understand that.

But, keep in mind that Henry has the potential to fizzle here, too. It's happened before--a FA switches teams and isn't the same. It's not like you can take 1350 to the bank as soon as he signs. Even he isn't a sure thing, although I admit he is much more of a sure-thing than a rookie.

 

[Pariah]

Honestly no. I like all 3 but feel that at the minimum 1 will be a bust one will be average and 1 will be great.

So which one doesn't have the 1350 potential?

 

[Shane]

Fair 'nuff. I can understand that.

But, keep in mind that Henry has the potential to fizzle here, too. It's happened before--a FA switches teams and isn't the same. It's not like you can take 1350 to the bank as soon as he signs. Even he isn't a sure thing, although I admit he is much more of a sure-thing than a rookie.

True. But with his age and minor injury history I think like you said he is the surest bet.

I will be happy with any of the three in the draft should we take them. But my fear beyond that is that we go CB and then still have to take a lesser RB in round 2. Thats why I would rather have the position shored up beforehand.

 

[Shane]

So which one doesn't have the 1350 potential?

I honestly feel that Brown will be the biggest bust(most hyped), Willliams will be average or slightly better than average and Benson the least heralded will be the best.

 

[Pariah]

I honestly feel that Brown will be the biggest bust(most hyped), Willliams will be average or slightly better than average and Benson the least heralded will be the best.

That's good for us, because Benson will almost surely be there for us! And, williams might be. Brown will be off the board. Works out perfect!

So, in summary, we should draft Benson:

 

[Mrospi]

Trade for Henry..... and if Brown, Williams or Benson is there at #8 you take them anyway based on Best player available strategy... that way we should be set at RB for years to come.....plus based on RB injuries depth is of huge importance....plus in the future it allows you to deal from a position of strength in trading at that position....Then you can take best player available in the 2nd round.......re-sign Hill and bring in Harper or Dyson and possibly draft a CB along the way and we are set..... keep bringing in good athletic offensive lineman in the draft.... guys that can run so we can have them out front on screens.... right now our OL has no idea how to block for a screen or are they capable to get out front to do it.