Bills RB Henry prepared to sit out until trade demand met

[Pariah]

Trade for Henry..... and if Brown, Williams or Benson is there at #8 you take them anyway based on Best player available strategy... that way we should be set at RB for years to come...

We'll have to be set for years to come, because henry won't play here the following year. That's exactly why he's demanding a trade a prepared to sit out the season in Buffalo.

That, IMO, would be a disaster.

 

[Mrospi]

You don't trade for him without signing the extension..... there has to be a way to tie him up for a few years at reasonable money.... no way do i trade without that contract done to secure the future years..... Sorry no Jerry Maguire deals here....... You get the deal signed.. no handshakes... business is business

 

[Azlen]

So which one doesn't have the 1350 potential?

A cynic would answer "Whichever one the Cards draft"

 

[WildBB]

I tend to agree with you on this. I think the Cards hold all the leverage with the draft being so deep. I sure hope that Buffalo gives in to us and we can get Henry straight up for Shelton. He is the one I have wanted all along. Would shore up the RB position and we could truly be a more BPA as long as its a CB type of draft!

I agree, pull the trigger, now!

 

[TigToad]

trading for Henry

I'm guessing if we trade for Henry it will be on draft day after the Cards see if the RB they want is still there. If he is, great, if he's not pull the trigger on the Henry/Shelton trade with a probably low pick coming to us. (6th maybe). Of course its a guess, but I don't think the Cards make a move before draft day.

While I think Clement will not be a Card this year and the cards would probably sell him for a 6th or 7th round pick at this point, there is little way we cut Shelton if we don't trade him. He could easily start for us this year and if he doens't he would easily be our most solid and versatile back up. We either get value in a trade for him or he's a Card.

 

[cardsunsfan]

You don't trade for him without signing the extension..... there has to be a way to tie him up for a few years at reasonable money.... no way do i trade without that contract done to secure the future years..... Sorry no Jerry Maguire deals here....... You get the deal signed.. no handshakes... business is business

I don't like the idea of signing Henry and then pick up another back at 8...runningbacks values aren't all that great to start with anyways...look at Henry, James, and Alexander...they can't even get a second for them and we're going to take one with the first and maybe not use him much? That just doesn't make sense..if we got Henry it would be better if we got Rolle or picked another position..if you would a change of pace back you can always pick a decent back in the later rounds..although we already have shipp and hambrick...

 

[BACH]

The way the draft seems to turn out (Brown and Williams gone at #8 ) I would do this trade. Brown and Williams have a bigger upside, since they seem to fit our offense better, but Henry is a proven player. I would still rate Brown/Williams over Henry, but I would rate Henry over Benson, since he doesn't have the same upside for us due to his running style.

It's true that our leverage will take a hit if we misses out on a RB in the draft, but what happens with Buffalo's leverage if the Phins, Bucs and Cards all get a RB on day one of the draft? It's very likely that these three teams all go for a RB, while it's very unlikely even one of these teams will pass on a RB on day 1. So, if this trade is going to happen it'll be before the draft begins IMO. The Bills are pressured to make it happen, because they're potentially left with no interest in Henry.

Trade for Henry and draft Sproles at #96 as 3rd down back and KR/PR. That should take care of the RB position.
Then we can focus CB, LB, G and TE in the draft.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Doesn't mention anything it that article about Henry wanting to extend his contract before coming to AZ like we all heard. Sound like he is willing to come here and play and work on a new contract next year.

 

[overseascardsfan]

I feel the cards should trade Shelton for Henry and draft a cornerback in the first round and if Marlin Jackson is available in the second draft him, otherwise go for Dave Baas. The way it's looking now is they don't even have enough money to sign Renaldo Hill. I think the Cardinal's would like Henry to play out his last year than give him an extension because they are short on cash. If he leaves there will be another running back in next year's draft to bring in.

 

[BACH]

The way it's looking now is they don't even have enough money to sign Renaldo Hill.

???
We have around $6,8M left under the cap and that's even after the rookie pool is subtracted AND without potential savings by cutting players...

 

[Southpaw]

"No minicamps. No training camp. No nothing"

No nothing means " something ". So what does that mean?

Cards don't need malcontents. I think I've heard that somewhere before.

 

[Cards Czar]

resign hill. trade shelton and whatever other garbage they want (other than any draft pick higher than 5) to get henry in here. draft johnson if he falls, if not one of the cbs. if we get johnson then draft nothing but cbs. one of 'em's bound to pan out. right? if we don't get johnson take one of the cbs, then in the second either get a guard or te, then take cbs with the rest of the picks. select me in the seventh round for fun. i'll sign for the minimum with a $50,000 signing bonus. then i'll serve as ASFN unknown insider informant until i get cut the first day of training camp.

Just stay away from Laptop Computers at training camp. You might make it through the 1st week.

 

[ThunderCard]

Just stay away from Laptop Computers at training camp. You might make it through the 1st week.

To think he would have been a starter in 2003. Mac would have talked up his spirit ...

 

[Crazy Canuck]

"No minicamps. No training camp. No nothing"

No nothing means " something ". So what does that mean?

Cards don't need malcontents. I think I've heard that somewhere before.

Given the facts as wriiten:

Define how "malcontent" applies to Henry, and makes him unwelcome in the Cards dressing room?

 

[Cards Czar]

To think he would have been a starter in 2003. Mac would have talked up his spirit ...

The problem was he is high vis player and Mac wanted him to be a trench player. He could not handle it so he was let go. Tough luck for him.

 

[ThunderCard]

What is with all the talk of passing on Benson. Every draft board 1 month ago had himing going #2 to the Dolphins and some even said he might unseat Bartlow in SF. I think it might be a gift if he falls to us and it would give us a very sound attack. He has been one of the best RB's in all 4 years of college and is quick with power.

Pros: Great size, powerful runner who can break for big gainers too. Has all of the physical tools and abilities to be a Pro Bowl back.
Cons: Character counts, and he is sorely lacking. Is of the "there's no I in team but there is a me" philosophy. May be the first RB taken, but is a risk.

I just don't buy into the whole character issue with this guy. Also I am sure he is pissed and wants nothing more than to prove all the critcs wrong. It also seemed when he made the comments about Williams he was backed into a corner. This guy is a monster RB and he just does not remind me of Ricky Williams as much as everyone else. I can see why everyone wants Brown or Caddy as they would fit the slasher mode better, but Denny really has never had a chance to draft a guy like this in all of his days at Minnesota.

I know a lot of you watched a lot of Texas football if you lived in the west. What impressed me about Benson was his vision and low gravity and that is the hardest to teach a RB. He seemed to hit the whole with power and burst through it with alarming speed. Also this guy will not be easy to arm tackle like any of our other RB's. I like Caddy and Brown, but Benson might be the most ready to take the next step.

 

[ThunderCard]

Can anyone tell me if there is a spell checker when posting messages and where is it ?/ TIA

 

[Assface]

Can anyone tell me if there is a spell checker when posting messages and where is it ?/ TIA

Here ya go. Spell checker

 

[Shane]

Here ya go. Spell checker

That was good assface!

 

[Cards Czar]

Here ya go. Spell checker

 

[azdad1978]

Here ya go. Spell checker

 

[john h]

I did not see this posted anywhere .. Not sure how long it was up, but Henry's trade value might have just fallen to a 5th round pick

Saw in the paper this morning that Henry would sit it out.

 

[john h]

I don't understand the Bills position here. They want fair market value for him, well what do they want? With James and Alexander available for a second round pick, I think fair market value for Henry is a low second or high third. Shelton is equal to that. Hell, maybe we can throw in Clement to sweeten the pot. With it being reported that those two will not be part of this team come game time, then make that the offer.

I continue to think part of the problem is a contract between Henry and the Cards. We do not know exactly what he wants and it could be more than the Cards are willing to pay. The Cards may be waiting Henry out and not his team.

 

[john h]

I'm guessing if we trade for Henry it will be on draft day after the Cards see if the RB they want is still there. If he is, great, if he's not pull the trigger on the Henry/Shelton trade with a probably low pick coming to us. (6th maybe). Of course its a guess, but I don't think the Cards make a move before draft day.

While I think Clement will not be a Card this year and the cards would probably sell him for a 6th or 7th round pick at this point, there is little way we cut Shelton if we don't trade him. He could easily start for us this year and if he doens't he would easily be our most solid and versatile back up. We either get value in a trade for him or he's a Card.

I do not think Henry or his team will let it get to draft day before he is moved. His value to other teams will decrease. It is in his interest and his teams to get something done and very soon. Trading him on draft day would involve getting him to agree to a new contract and that is hard to do in one day.

 

[john h]

Doesn't mention anything it that article about Henry wanting to extend his contract before coming to AZ like we all heard. Sound like he is willing to come here and play and work on a new contract next year.

No way I make a trade for Henry based on working out a deal for him next year. I prefer to keep Shelton unless he signs an extended contract.