Blaine Gabbert: Officially handed the keys to the car (dinals)

[Jetstream Green]

What I would also like to see him improve on is keeping his head up field when scrambling. He seems locked into running once he decides to leave the pocket far too often.

Firstly, he has not ran that often to consider he is locked into running too often and in reality who can blame him running once he starts because a majority of our receivers never come back to bail him out

 

[MrYeahBut]

@RugbyMuffin

I love the title of this thread... nice

However, I'm not overly sanguine about Gabbert's chances. Just hopeful he doesn't crash and burn, possibly replace Stanton going forward.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Firstly, he has not ran that often to consider he is locked into running too often and in reality who can blame him running once he starts because a majority of our receivers never come back to bail him out

I didn't say he leaves the pocket too often, I think I said when he leaves the pocket far too often he does not keep looking down field. Sometime when I QB starts to run DBs will either hesitate for a second or start to move towards the QB.

At least that is what I meant to say...

 

[RugbyMuffin]

@RugbyMuffin

I love the title of this thread... nice

However, I'm not overly sanguine about Gabbert's chances. Just hopeful he doesn't crash and burn, possibly replace Stanton going forward.

After looking up the word "sanguine" I can say that I only look at Gabbert as a backup.

But, I could be wrong. It is the NFL, who knows. Case Keenum is driving a playoff team with Superbowl aspirations.

You just never know.

 

[gimpy]

You have a dictionary to look it up? I don't. Could you please tell me what it means?

Assuming you used a dictionary?

 

[oaken1]

You have a dictionary to look it up? I don't. Could you please tell me what it means?

Assuming you used a dictionary?

google?

 

[gimpy]

OK?

 

[Dude]

I don't see him as the next QB but at this point we have to look and I hope to be 100% wrong.

 

[Ronin]

Mike Jurecki
@mikejurecki

Blaine Gabbert On if other teams were interested in him when the Cardinals signed him: “That was a long time ago. Yeah, there were some other calls, but I knew the best spot for me right when I came out here. That’s it.”

 

[seesred]

It's only two games. Let's slow down a bit. I must say that the kid got smarts and can throw dart threw and around defenders. He has got the size , the smarts , the arm to make plays. Am I excited yes. But I've seen this before the Rams are tough and lets see how he does. A win at home would go along way for the confidence of this team. It will also help our O line's play.

GBR
40

 

[clif]

I just pray to GOD that they are not fooled into passing on a QBOTF. There are obvious signs of limitations with Gabbert. No one in their right mind every thought much of DS as an every game starter.

 

[nashman]

I just pray to GOD that they are not fooled into passing on a QBOTF. There are obvious signs of limitations with Gabbert. No one in their right mind every thought much of DS as an every game starter.

Apples to oranges comparison, DS was never EVER considered a possible franchise QB. BG was a top ten pick and has more potential than any QB on the Cards in years! He just once again looked good against the number 1 ranked D in the league. His two games have shown more skill than DS in his entire career.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Apples to oranges comparison, DS was never EVER considered a possible franchise QB. BG was a top ten pick and has more potential than any QB on the Cards in years! He just once again looked good against the number 1 ranked D in the league. His two games have shown more skill than DS in his entire career.

Yes Stanton was, when the Lions used a second round pick on him

"Going into his senior season (2006), Stanton had been mentioned as a potential Heisman Trophy candidate and visited New York twice for the presentation. He had been listed as high as the #2 QB in the 2007 NFL Draft by ESPN"

 

[oaken1]

Yes Stanton was, when the Lions used a second round pick on him

"Going into his senior season (2006), Stanton had been mentioned as a potential Heisman Trophy candidate and visited New York twice for the presentation. He had been listed as high as the #2 QB in the 2007 NFL Draft by ESPN"

so....failing espn saw him as a top talent.... but nobody in the nfl wanted to risk their first round pick on him.. Thanks for the info Jet!

 

[Jetstream Green]

so....failing espn saw him as a top talent.... but nobody in the nfl wanted to risk their first round pick on him.. Thanks for the info Jet!

Hey, I think Gabbert is better than Stanton and I am hanging onto that 40% chance that Blaine might be a starter but to say that Stanton was never ever thought of as a possible franchise QB is wrong

 

[USAFMEDIC]

Gabbert never had a chance with the Jags or Niners. He deserves a shot. We will know by the end of the year. Thinks Cousins and Keenum. He deserves the chance. Stanton has always been a #2 QB.

 

[pmacLean]

Take Drew Stanton, heck, take Carson Palmer, give them a different O co-ord and a different head coach EVERY year they played at the start of their careers for 6 years, on sucking bad teams and what record do you think you would see ?

Right.

Gabbert is the best QB on this team right now, I say this even before the RAMS, because I watched him play. Our O-line even got a few compliments after the game. Had the QB been not named Gabbert, the sacks would have been tripled or quadrupled and the outrage at the o-line would have continued.

The man can pass, the man can run. If they actually train our sad sack receivers to react on a scramble (as they practice in Seattle) then he would look even better.
Welcome to the modern NFL.

You are looking at the 2018 starting QB. Get used to it.

 

[clif]

Take Drew Stanton, heck, take Carson Palmer, give them a different O co-ord and a different head coach EVERY year they played at the start of their careers for 6 years, on sucking bad teams and what record do you think you would see ?

Right.

Gabbert is the best QB on this team right now, I say this even before the RAMS, because I watched him play. Our O-line even got a few compliments after the game. Had the QB been not named Gabbert, the sacks would have been tripled or quadrupled and the outrage at the o-line would have continued.

The man can pass, the man can run. If they actually train our sad sack receivers to react on a scramble (as they practice in Seattle) then he would look even better.
Welcome to the modern NFL.

You are looking at the 2018 starting QB. Get used to it.

Even at 37, Carson Palmer is a better QB than Gabbert.

 

[AZ Native]

Even at 37, Carson Palmer is a better QB than Gabbert.

I too like Carson, but he has been hit so many times here. He is a warrior, I don't know who else could have taken those hits, But even last year, he took months to decide if he was coming back for the 24 million. At this point I think he will take his money (he earned) and his health and spend time with his family. Carson has given his all to the Cards. He is a man's man.

 

[pmacLean]

Even at 37, Carson Palmer is a better QB than Gabbert.

NO he isn't. Take the 5 best o-linemen in the NFL and put them in front of CP and I agree with you. We have never had even ONE of the best o-linemen, ever.

CP is as good as his line, stellar line, stellar CP. That's all there is to it. I love the guy. I think he is the toughest Cardinal football player since Boldin and Warner. But he is NOT Warner and he CANNOT do what Warner did and he has no more support than Warner did.

Gabbert can move and either run or throw, and quite often, that is all good. With our o-line, that is a huge upgrade and please don't quote me O-line stats for last week... the O-line looked good because Gabbert escaped most of the disasters they were allowing to happen (Warner couldn't do that, Warner was so good, he saw it before it happened and audibled into a super fast play to kill that problem, very few QBs, if any, are Warner-like in that regard, CP is not one of them)

So, no, on this team, CP is NOT better than Gabbert.

 

[clif]

NO he isn't. Take the 5 best o-linemen in the NFL and put them in front of CP and I agree with you. We have never had even ONE of the best o-linemen, ever.

CP is as good as his line, stellar line, stellar CP. That's all there is to it. I love the guy. I think he is the toughest Cardinal football player since Boldin and Warner. But he is NOT Warner and he CANNOT do what Warner did and he has no more support than Warner did.

Gabbert can move and either run or throw, and quite often, that is all good. With our o-line, that is a huge upgrade and please don't quote me O-line stats for last week... the O-line looked good because Gabbert escaped most of the disasters they were allowing to happen (Warner couldn't do that, Warner was so good, he saw it before it happened and audibled into a super fast play to kill that problem, very few QBs, if any, are Warner-like in that regard, CP is not one of them)

So, no, on this team, CP is NOT better than Gabbert.

Even on his best days Blaine Gabbert is a 55% passer. Dude is still erratic. Let’s not get swept up in emotion. There was a reason he was #3 and CP was #1.

 

[clif]

I too like Carson, but he has been hit so many times here. He is a warrior, I don't know who else could have taken those hits, But even last year, he took months to decide if he was coming back for the 24 million. At this point I think he will take his money (he earned) and his health and spend time with his family. Carson has given his all to the Cards. He is a man's man.

I’m not advocating that CP ever come back but I know right this moment he is still better than Gabbert.

 

[AZ Native]

I’m not advocating that CP ever come back but I know right this moment he is still better than Gabbert.

Speculation at best.

 

[pmacLean]

Even on his best days Blaine Gabbert is a 55% passer. Dude is still erratic. Let’s not get swept up in emotion. There was a reason he was #3 and CP was #1.

I guess there is some part of 'With our o-line' that you did not grasp ? What part was that ? Is CP a better passer ? Yes. Is he more experienced and given an extra couple of seconds (which he won't get) a better decision maker ? Yes.

He will also get sacked approx 3 times (probably more) per game than Gabbert.
He will get far more 'pressures' than Gabbert, who will already be out of the way (called 'happy feet' and 'panicking' by the loons that have never seen a QB who can move and get the heck out of the way, at least any Cardinal QB, guess they never watched Plummer).

And lastly, Gabbert will run for 1st downs. We have not seen and have not had, that capability in years in Arizona, even though, in the modern NFL, it is a necessity. Even geriatric BA is seeing the value.

In the 70s and 80s (maybe the 90s), CP would wipe the floor with Gabbert. This is now, and CP needs to go (much as I love the guy and think he is one of the toughest to play the game, you can;t be an immobile QB in AZ without being that), his era is gone.

AND
"Even on his best days Blaine Gabbert is a 55% passer. "
have you gone to the Trump International School of Fake News ?
against Houston 64.7
against Jags 57.9 (against the # 1 defense in the NFL, which pretty much throttled Fitz)

I think if you look, you'll see most QBs against the Jags had WORSE percentages... but, yeah, let's all stay stoic and ready for the whip to come down... some of us, enjoy hope (hope with a rationale behind it), you know ?

 

[oaken1]

I guess there is some part of 'With our o-line' that you did not grasp ? What part was that ? Is CP a better passer ? Yes. Is he more experienced and given an extra couple of seconds (which he won't get) a better decision maker ? Yes.

He will also get sacked approx 3 times (probably more) per game than Gabbert.
He will get far more 'pressures' than Gabbert, who will already be out of the way (called 'happy feet' and 'panicking' by the loons that have never seen a QB who can move and get the heck out of the way, at least any Cardinal QB, guess they never watched Plummer).

And lastly, Gabbert will run for 1st downs. We have not seen and have not had, that capability in years in Arizona, even though, in the modern NFL, it is a necessity. Even geriatric BA is seeing the value.

In the 70s and 80s (maybe the 90s), CP would wipe the floor with Gabbert. This is now, and CP needs to go (much as I love the guy and think he is one of the toughest to play the game, you can;t be an immobile QB in AZ without being that), his era is gone.

AND
"Even on his best days Blaine Gabbert is a 55% passer. "
have you gone to the Trump International School of Fake News ?
against Houston 64.7
against Jags 57.9 (against the # 1 defense in the NFL, which pretty much throttled Fitz)

I think if you look, you'll see most QBs against the Jags had WORSE percentages... but, yeah, let's all stay stoic and ready for the whip to come down... some of us, enjoy hope (hope with a rationale behind it), you know ?

IMO most of the resistance comes from the same place.... most on this site do not see gabbert as the long term answer and want the team to draft a legit QBOTF....
the problem is...it will be easy for the staff to "justify" going in another direction if it looks like gabbert can be 'adequate"... nobody here wants "adequate"...as unrealistic as it is,...we want the next JohnElway, the next Brett Favre, the next Tom Brady... the guy who will be here 15 years and win 4 championships in Cardinal red...a legit HoF QB to finally carry this team to the promised land....the draft in april may or may not provide that guy but the team needs to at least take a shot at it. Gabbert has a leg up on any player in the draft since he has already proven he can play in the nfl... but many will say he has not yet proven he can play "well" in the nfl...stats about systems and coordinators,..all good and fine, and understood... but even if we go 6-0 to finish the season with Gabs under center...it is a small sample size and could just as easily be an outlier... Gabs could easily revert back to who he was in jacksonville next season.
every long term cardinal fan on the planet has battered woman syndrome when it comes to this team..especially in regards to the decisions they make at the QB position.
I have a basic view on gabby... he is better than stanton and if Palmer were to retire,...he could be an adequate bridge for a rookie to come along slowly if need be,..or a safety net if the rookie fails...all of that keeps him around and gives him opportunities to prove he is more...
maybe they should draft Darnold,...make Leftwich the o coordinator, and hire Carson as the QB coach