Bled+picks=top 7?

[pokerface]

There is a time to trade picks. Its when your core is in place or you are able to get that one piece to finish your core. Its a horrible thing to do at the beginning of a rebuilding process.

McD seems to draft well, so I am just fine keeping picks and sticking with what we do best. Remember that he drafts well when he just focuses on the BPA and lets the draft come to him. I don't think drafting Booker was all that brilliant. He just took the best player left on the board at the time. GM's blow it when they try to draft that hidden talent that no one else seems to recognize. So kudos to McD. But how do we add 5 first round picks to this roster over the next 3 years. Everyone is young already.

At some point, there are just too many young players around. You don't have the minutes to develop them.

McD's drafting to me seems like his strongest strength as a GM... or maybe he's just been lucky. Like you said though there is a point to where you just can't develop more young talent. I think we're approaching that point after this draft. After our first rounder (and two second rounders) this draft we almost have to start trading up soon. That's partly why I've been pushing for a Bledsoe trade package. This draft should be very interesting not only because of the high pick but of all the potential trade scenarios that could happen. I'd be surprised if no trades happened at all.

 

[JCSunsfan]

McD's drafting to me seems like his strongest strength as a GM... or maybe he's just been lucky. Like you said though there is a point to where you just can't develop more young talent. I think we're approaching that point after this draft. After our first rounder (and two second rounders) this draft we almost have to start trading up soon. That's partly why I've been pushing for a Bledsoe trade package. This draft should be very interesting not only because of the high pick but of all the potential trade scenarios that could happen. I'd be surprised if no trades happened at all.

Yes. I think the next trade will seem lopsided against us. But it will be about what our roster looks like when it is done. For instance, Bledsoe plus two Miami picks for a star player could be a good thing. Even Bledsoe and TJ. Imagine this.

We draft Fultz. Then we immediately deal Bledsoe, TJ, and two Miami picks for Paul George or Jimmy Butler. To me, that is an overpay, but we could afford it. I am not necessarily pushing for those players, just looking at the type of deal that is possible. Now this is the roster.

Fultz, Ulis
Booker, Barbosa
George/Butler, DJJr
Chriss, Bender, Dudley
Chandler, Williams

We could still resign Len if we wanted. Actually, Len looks pretty good on that roster. He doesn't have to score, just rebound and block shots. The same scenario works drafting Ball, In fact, I kinda like Ball better on that roster. He adds more ball movement and defense to the guard rotation.

Use free agency to sign depth (Reddick, Thabo?). Plus we still have two second rounders and all of our own future picks.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yes. I think the next trade will seem lopsided against us. But it will be about what our roster looks like when it is done. For instance, Bledsoe plus two Miami picks for a star player could be a good thing. Even Bledsoe and TJ. Imagine this.

We draft Fultz. Then we immediately deal Bledsoe, TJ, and two Miami picks for Paul George or Jimmy Butler. To me, that is an overpay, but we could afford it. I am not necessarily pushing for those players, just looking at the type of deal that is possible. Now this is the roster.

Fultz, Ulis
Booker, Barbosa
George/Butler, DJJr
Chriss, Bender, Dudley
Chandler, Williams

We could still resign Len if we wanted. Actually, Len looks pretty good on that roster. He doesn't have to score, just rebound and block shots. The same scenario works drafting Ball, In fact, I kinda like Ball better on that roster. He adds more ball movement and defense to the guard rotation.

Use free agency to sign depth (Reddick, Thabo?). Plus we still have two second rounders and all of our own future picks.

I wish the Knicks would consider trading Porzingis in a trade like you mention in bold. They would likely want Bender and Bledsoe and the Miami picks in such a scenario. However, I doubt they do it because he is the face of the franchise.

 

[GatorAZ]

I wish the Knicks would consider trading Porzingis in a trade like you mention in bold. They would likely want Bender and Bledsoe and the Miami picks in such a scenario. However, I doubt they do it because he is the face of the franchise.

They would want all that plus our pick. He's untouchable like Booker.

Need to get another star in the draft.

 

[Mainstreet]

They would want all that plus our pick. He's untouchable like Booker.

Need to get another star in the draft.

I agree it's unlikely unless there is a serious riff between the Knicks and Porzingis. Depending what happens in the lottery, the Suns might consider swapping 2017 first round picks with the Knicks as part of the trade.

 

[Finito]

Yes. I think the next trade will seem lopsided against us. But it will be about what our roster looks like when it is done. For instance, Bledsoe plus two Miami picks for a star player could be a good thing. Even Bledsoe and TJ. Imagine this.

We draft Fultz. Then we immediately deal Bledsoe, TJ, and two Miami picks for Paul George or Jimmy Butler. To me, that is an overpay, but we could afford it. I am not necessarily pushing for those players, just looking at the type of deal that is possible. Now this is the roster.

Fultz, Ulis
Booker, Barbosa
George/Butler, DJJr
Chriss, Bender, Dudley
Chandler, Williams

We could still resign Len if we wanted. Actually, Len looks pretty good on that roster. He doesn't have to score, just rebound and block shots. The same scenario works drafting Ball, In fact, I kinda like Ball better on that roster. He adds more ball movement and defense to the guard rotation.

Use free agency to sign depth (Reddick, Thabo?). Plus we still have two second rounders and all of our own future picks.

I don't even give them both Miami picks for George they know there gonna lose him anyway if he's willing to sign an extension then you give them what they want for a legit top ten NBA player

 

[SirStefan32]

I thought George made it known that anyone trading for him is trading for a brief rental. Lakers are the exception, as he will be signing there at the end of his current contract.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I'm so tired of the Suns trading away picks. Take a chance and keep them.

 

[pokerface]

I wish the Knicks would consider trading Porzingis in a trade like you mention in bold. They would likely want Bender and Bledsoe and the Miami picks in such a scenario. However, I doubt they do it because he is the face of the franchise.

Getting Porzingis made my mouth water. We could afford to overpay for him.

JC made a very good point that deals don't have to necessarily be even for them to be good deals. As long as we are getting a player that exactly fits suns needs.

 

[Mainstreet]

Getting Porzingis made my mouth water. We could afford to overpay for him.

JC made a very good point that deals don't have to necessarily be even for them to be good deals. As long as we are getting a player that exactly fits suns needs.

If I'm the Suns I overpay for Porzingis but I doubt he is available. I think he would be a perfect fit for the Suns and a future star to team with Booker.

 

[Finito]

I'm so tired of the Suns trading away picks. Take a chance and keep them.

We haven't really traded away picks since the Nash era and that was because Sarver didn't want to pay luxury tax. We've kept our picks recently and drafted as well as anyone but like it's been said were getting to the point where we might have to much young talent

 

[Carolinacacti]

We haven't really traded away picks since the Nash era and that was because Sarver didn't want to pay luxury tax. We've kept our picks recently and drafted as well as anyone but like it's been said were getting to the point where we might have to much young talent

I was talking about the Nash era.

 

[elindholm]

We haven't really traded away picks since the Nash era

Except for the Laker pick that was jettisoned for the privilege of bringing Knight to the organization.

 

[pokerface]

Except for the Laker pick that was jettisoned for the privilege of bringing Knight to the organization.

Yeah and now we'd have to give a pick to unload him. What a disaster.

 

[Yuma]

Personally, I think the Bledsoe is too old to fit with Booker and the young guys for a run is hilarious. The same pundits that say that, talk about how good Chris Paul is playing. LMAO. Next year I think Bledsoe + Uliss is very good. Obviously Uliss can absorb more minutes than the Suns thought. So Bledsoe won't get worn down. Obviously if our pick comes up and it's a PG, Fultz or Ball, I guess you take him. Unless some big man really starts impressing in private work outs, you almost have to take one of those guys if we have the first or second pick. Makes for an interesting conundrum for the Suns. Rarely do teams trade down, but maybe we could and still get a guy we want, perhaps not a guy in the draft but a player traded to us. Possibilities open up if we can snag the one or two spot in the draft!

 

[SirStefan32]

Yeah and now we'd have to give a pick to unload him. What a disaster.

No we don't. Worst case scenarios is that the Suns have to waive him. They don't have to get his salary off the books just yet.

 

[bwgood77]

We need to stop thinking about fixing everything in one year or this up and coming off-season.

I look at Bled as like KJ a great player that had to deal with bad teams, but those bad teams ended up building assets that where trade able or developed enough to change the franchise. Also with what Ullis has done at the end of this year, I might be more interested to focus on him as the PG of the future.

The teams focus should in this order: moving Knight for something of value, drafting the BPA with #1 pick, Adjusting roster for #1 pick, finding a proven outside defender in free agency and long term plan for Center.

The Sun's still have a bunch of future assets and moveable pieces. But I can't think of a young proven player that I would try to get or that would be available?

How in the world can you compare Bled to KJ? The only time KJ had to deal with a bad team was when he was traded as a rookie to a 28 win team who was trading away their best player (Larry Nance) to get him. He began to put up insane stats almost immediately, getting 16 assists in his third game, which was the first game he played more than 25 minutes.

The next year he leads the team to 55 wins, than 54, than 55, than 53 before getting Barkley. He averaged over 20 and 12 while shooting 50.5% in his first full year with the team (second year in the league), then 22.5 and 11.4 while shooting 49.9% in the following year, and then over 22 and 10 shooting 51.6% the next year.

His first full year he gets the Suns to the 2nd round, eventually losing to the WCF champs, the Lakers, who may have won it all if they didn't have a bunch of injuries in the finals. The following year, he dispatches the Lakers in 5 and likely knocks out the Blazers in the WCF if not getting injured in game 5.

Not ONCE outside of his rookie year where he only played 28 games with the Suns, did the Suns not make the playoffs.