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The Blazers would be a good team to contact with all the young talent they have.
Thats what i said. Oregon isn't far from "Oh....Canada" and a Nash/Roy backcourt with Aldridge/Oden up front could entice the Blazers to sell us some draft picks including this years #1.
 
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I would say this thread is a tad premature....

Just a tad?

Done with Amare and Marion...what are you smoking? Seriously Amare one of the best young big men in the league and Marion who does all the things people bitch about this team not doing i.e. rebounding and playing D. Whatever you clearly have some issues with those guys and can't see through your dislike for them to see they are not the problem. One guy can't play D the whole damn team needs to tighten up on D including Amare but its not purely on him or Marion.

Someone needs to put a stop to this insanity.

First of all - yes - you are all knee jerk reacting to a couple of losses. I didn't see the Minny game but i watched the entire Miami game and living here in MIA I can tell you they NEVER collectively hit shots like that. Now you can say this is because the Suns dont play much "D" and that certainly rings true. But against 95% of the teams 95% of the time teams will not be able to outshoot us. That is the model and it has worked so far.

Second - this whole trade Amare thing is patently ridiculous. Am i disappointed he has not turned into an all around force like Duncan and Garnett? Yes. Am i starting to think he is more bark than bite? Yes. Do I think his knees are VERY scary? yes. Are there ten players in the league i would trade him for? Hell No.

Everyone wants to focus on what Amare is not and are going gaga over Howard. Yes Howard is looking very good so far. Couple points: Howard is a better defender and rebounder but he is no where near the offensive force that Amare is. NO WHERE NEAR! Howard was also a #1 pick. Should we start comparing Amare to Duncan, Lebron, and Shaq too? WTF? why not be happy that we have the best offensive young big man in the game and quit trying to trade him for 50 cents on the dollar?

You know what is absolutely killer about all this? There is an article on CNNSI.com right now from Steve Aschburner or something talking about the exact same thing we bitch about every day. The KT trade. And he makes some valid points.

Yet no one even thinks to consider that an good low post big man is likely biding his time and eventually will be here in PHX. PJ Brown is the magic elixir for everybody. Should he come here then everyone will go crazy and say we are back to being title favorites. And Sarver will be a genius for getting KT for 1/8 the cost.

And Even if he doesn't you are all sounding like a bitter bunch of masochists who whine when we have things so good. Make the ridiculous trades you guys are proposing and just see how they would turn out. There is a reason all of us are the arm chair QB's and the FO is the one getting paid to make moves. Because the know what they are doing.

Meanwhile we sit here at 15 -6 acting like winning 60 game and the WCF is a birthright or something. Get a grip. We will be fine. Kerr and the boys will address our low post needs WITHOUT dismantling the team and even if not, I am fine going to war with the boys we got. You know why?

Because just like us - they are waiting for the playoffs too. And at that point I will take our top 7 over anyones.

This message is not just for the fans either. Coach D and team needs to relax too. If all this carping and whining keeps up it won't be the lack of low post defense and rebounding that will eat us up.

Its the pressure....

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Very well said....I agree 1000%

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Quit screwing around....gut it and rebuild.

-Trade JRich at the deadline for good value(draft pick or solid front court player)

- Call the Knicks,Warriors,or any team near Canada and move Nash and Grant Hill for anything you can get. (2nd rd picks...role players etc...)

- Give the playmaking duties to Dragic and Hedo the Turk and go with:
Dragic/Hedo/Duds/Warrick/Lopez

- Get into the lottery,light a fire under the scouting departments ass and draft a player you can build around.
 

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-Trade JRich at the deadline for good value(draft pick or solid front court player)

If only it were that simple. Like trading Amare Stoudemire for good value last season. That didn't work either.

- Call the Knicks,Warriors,or any team near Canada and move Nash and Grant Hill for anything you can get. (2nd rd picks...role players etc...)

Wait, I thought one of the reasons everyone wanted to get rid of Nash and Hill because they "deserved" championships. Sending them to NY or Golden State for nothing doesn't exactly fit that mold, while also making us look really, really bad.

- Get into the lottery,light a fire under the scouting departments ass and draft a player you can build around.

What makes you think lighting a fire under the scouting department's ass is going to do any good? It's not like they haven't tried for the past 6 years. They're just not that good.
 

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If only it were that simple. Like trading Amare Stoudemire for good value last season. That didn't work either.



Wait, I thought one of the reasons everyone wanted to get rid of Nash and Hill because they "deserved" championships. Sending them to NY or Golden State for nothing doesn't exactly fit that mold, while also making us look really, really bad.



What makes you think lighting a fire under the scouting department's ass is going to do any good? It's not like they haven't tried for the past 6 years. They're just not that good.
Are you kiddin me? Nash with Amare again isn't a contender? PLZ give me whatever your smoking.

Nash would make Biedrins and Lee look good and they'll be able to rebound the ball...something they don't do in PHX :D

LOL if they aren't that good then shouldn't they be fired already? If not what are we waiting for?
 

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If only it were that simple. Like trading Amare Stoudemire for good value last season. That didn't work either.
I'm still not sure what the SUNS were looking for in return.
Besides,i'm talking about addition by subtraction at this point. I'd take a pick and a player for Nash at this point.



Wait, I thought one of the reasons everyone wanted to get rid of Nash and Hill because they "deserved" championships. Sending them to NY or Golden State for nothing doesn't exactly fit that mold, while also making us look really, really bad.
Well thats not my reason for moving him.
Nash isn't ring-chasing,so i don't forsee the overwhelming backlash you're speaking of materializing here.
Nash would probably enjoy himself more in NY anyway.



What makes you think lighting a fire under the scouting department's ass is going to do any good? It's not like they haven't tried for the past 6 years. They're just not that good.
Well,if they're just not that good then overhaul it.
Do i need to quote Albert Einstein again? :lol:
 

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Well thats not my reason for moving him.
Nash isn't ring-chasing,so i don't forsee the overwhelming backlash you're speaking of materializing here.
Nash would probably enjoy himself more in NY anyway.

Well,if they're just not that good then overhaul it.
Do i need to quote Albert Einstein again? :lol:

Disagree with the Nash part, especially now that he's getting a divorce. My guess is that he'll want to be wherever his kids are--and right now, that's in Phoenix. I can't imagine Alejandra moving to NYC with a newborn anytime soon. Believe me, that is a BIG deal for Nash.

I do agree that they should overhaul the scouting department, but with the new Blanks/Babby administration, maybe they feel they don't need to. Don't know.
 

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Didn't the owner state that they were going to spend less on scouting college players and more on scouting existing NBA players in order to bring in good free agents?

I can't remember exactly what he said, but it sounded like Sarver doesn't care much for draft picks...
 

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I'm still not sure what the SUNS were looking for in return.
Besides,i'm talking about addition by subtraction at this point. I'd take a pick and a player for Nash at this point.




Well thats not my reason for moving him.
Nash isn't ring-chasing,so i don't forsee the overwhelming backlash you're speaking of materializing here.
Nash would probably enjoy himself more in NY anyway.




Well,if they're just not that good then overhaul it.
Do i need to quote Albert Einstein again? :lol:

I think you should recite Albert Einstein's famous quote every time the situation warrants. If people still don't change their ways, then continue to educate them with his insanity quote. Surely they will learn from it eventually.

Steve
 

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