Boldin Hurt, Whiz Is A Feeb.

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A coach can't pull everyone, this isn't college where you have a 70 man roster.

Could have pulled Boldin, Fitz and CC. Why keep them in? Kept the entire OL in? Why not let some backups get some time? We got crushed anyway.
 

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And we must cut Leinart immediately. I've seen so much more than enough, I can't take it.

it can get way worse than that. i've seen Tom Tupa and Stan Gelbaugh play QB for this team. You need to toughen up.
 

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Saturday, Jan. 9

AFC: 4:30 p.m. ET — NY Jets/Houston at Cincinnati (NBC-TV)

NFC: 8 p.m. ET — Philadelphia at Dallas (NBC-TV)

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Jet vs Cincy back to back...Cincy gets Killed That coach is no dummy, thats the way he played it!

Who could think that after all is said and done 6 squads will play the same team in the opening game of the playoffs!!!!!

Philly vs Dallas Cowguys shut out Phillys? The great philly team. No this is just a dumb coach. Fire them all.

I wish we didn't have to play our WR at all. But Q needed some yards for 1000 and made them. Fits wanted catches. Breaston rotated out with Urban and Doucet. Patrick, morey, not dressed. Hopefully we will have DRC and Q for next week. I totaly believe we will win next week and they wont be ready for us.

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So you blame Warner for almost ending Boldin's career?

Warner's pass was an accurate one that is thrown every game. It was unfortunate that both the defenders met him at the same time.

Leinart's passes are innacurate causing the WRs to move into positions that can be highly prone to injuries.
 

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Warner's pass was an accurate one that is thrown every game. It was unfortunate that both the defenders met him at the same time.

Leinart's passes are innacurate causing the WRs to move into positions that can be highly prone to injuries.

That pass was exactly what you are calling Leinart out for. The pass took to long to get there, allowed the defender to adjust.

You think Warner contemplating retiring because he threw Boldin a perfect pass? Please....
 

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Fine, then play all of the backups and save the starters. I am commenting on the plan more than the effort. Makes no sense to make a partial go at it in a game like this.

Bad move in my opinion.

With a 45 man game day roster you can't sit all of your starters, I suggest.
 

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With a 45 man game day roster you can't sit all of your starters, I suggest.

Not all but I consider CC, Boldin and Fitz key starters that could have been pulled out. If you aren't going for the win then at least protect yourself from injury to your key players. The OL played the entire game also. Not sure why.

I hope the coach has the final say in this. If the players are deciding we have other problems.
 

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"Fitz would not come out" He refused!
Are you over it now?

That's funny - Fitz was quoted as saying:


“Coach didn’t ask me to come out,” Fitzgerald said. “That’s my job to play ball until he tells me to come out. You’ve got to be committed to the cause.”​

Said Whisenhunt, “Fitz, we couldn’t get out. I think he wanted the opportunity to get the touchdown. … You can’t sit everybody, so we tried to do it the best way we could. In Anquan’s situation, I wish he’d come out one play earlier.”​
 

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Coach should have pulled them at the end of the 2nd. Coach needs to step it up and demand they hit the bench. ESPECIALLY after watching DRC go down.
 

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I love Fitz as much as anybody but if Peyton Manning has no say in whether he has to take a seat or not why should Fitz? Bottom line is it's the HC's call. When the score is 26-zip and we are already playing pure scrubs on defense there is zero reason for Boldin and Fitzgerald to still be in the game.
 

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So. matt should never hang a WR out to dry like that. Especially on a throw that shouldn't be especially difficult for an NFL QB.

Matt hung more than one guy out to dry. Some of those throws over the middle were high and some behind the receiver. He would get a piece of my mind when I got back to the huddle. Q is one who likely to do just that. It is sad enough you cannot hit an open receiver but when you endanger other receivers it is totally unacceptable. As far as I am concerned we should be on the look for a QB as soon as the season is over and just pray that Kurt comes back for another season. We got our butts seriously kicked but did have a lot of second string players in there on offense. If I were a Cards player I would be a little p.o. as I thought they were rubbing it in. We had given up when they took Warner out and the game was as good as over at that point. Apparently GB had an entirely different philosophy as they came not only to win but to kick some serious butt. One always has to think the rest of the team saw Whiz take Kurt out and more or less gave up themselves at that point. Like the rest of you if you are going to give up then take out all your key players. I do not know what was going through Whiz's head? I think he may have left some of this up to the OC and DC. The DC, so they said, was going to play his guys. I have no idea who is going to show up next weekend and how they are going to play. I know I would be personally very angry that these guys kept on pounding away while we played guys who had never played and even had a QB throw his first ever completion and TD. This game still has me confused as to what the h--- was going on out there?
 

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You guys can think I'm "smug" all you want.

Im a Cards fan first and foremost! I root for Matt and root for him hard. Him succeeding is only HUGE benefit to us. I certainly don't root for him to fail.

But the blind support he gets on here after all the miserable performances is mind numbing.

He should be able to manage a game at this point in his career. I dont expect him to be Warner. But I do expect him to make accurate throws and not turn the ball over.

We have a history of "blind support" for a QB. Why I do not know. I don not dislike ML but I do like his history of playing QB for the Cards. I borders on miserable and is out there for all to see. I am a Cards fan first and a player fan second. If Matt were better than Kurt I would be screaming for him to be in there. Matt is just what you see. We had guys cheering for Kent Graham to get hurt so our local hero could play. Apparently seeing our local hero play was more important than winning a game. That is not just the case here in AZ but common in the NFL. Fans will turn on you on a dime. It goes with being a QB. They get paid big bucks for this. Matt started off in the dog house of his own accord by becoming the playboy. He got past that. He will not get by that easy with his on the field performance. You know this has to be a major topic of discussion among the coaches, owner and even the players. If we are terrible unhappy then it is a good bet they will be unhappy.

What is the status of DRC? Apparently Wilson is good to go which will help us a lot with that big receiver. Their QB had all day and was on the mark all day. Obviously Whiz did not show anything of our plan for next week. No blitzes to speak of. Plain vanilla offense. At least I hope that was what I was seeing.
 

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So you blame Warner for almost ending Boldin's career?

Absolutely not. Watch this video and especially Q's position as hes catching it in the slow motion replays. Kurts throw was not slow. It was not high and it didnt leave Q hung out to dry. The throw was perfectly placed leading him ACROSS THE MIDDLE where his route took him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9eZM_FcoQ

Thats just one of the dangers of being willing to go across the middle in football. Something Q is willing to do. It was a freak hit where he had a guy in the back pushing him into the guy in the front causing more force than usual. He most certainly wasnt hung out to dry.

Matts throw yesterday while in the middle of the field where his route was designed the throw was WAY high and left Boldin completely unprotected and defenseless as he went up to get it. Not really the same IMO.
 
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Calais Campbell hurt too? I'll never forgive Whisenhunt for this. Yes, he turned the franchise around. And yes, I'm still supportive of him. But on this particular point, I won't ever forgive him.
 

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Whisenhunt's plan to go half ass in an NFL game was a straight rookie mistake.

If you aren't going to show anything and you are only concerned about next week, then you pull all your starters and don't risk anything.

If you are going to play to win the third seed then you play to win the third seed consequences be damned.

Pick a side and stick with it. Playing half assed meant that we got the worst of both sides. We had injured players AND got embarrassed at home.

Further it was clear that we didn't give a damn about this game and the play was lackadasical, which only increases the chances of our players getting hurt. If the coach isn't trying to win, why the heck would the players?

So yeah...this week Whis is a feeb (whatever that means).

True or not I have often heard the best way to get hurt is to play and try not to get hurt. I would Whiz is second guessing himself more than any of us know and probably hurting more than any of us know. A lot of teams played all out this week. Granted some had something to play for but nevertheless they risked injury. Whiz played it like he thought it best for the team. It could have gone either way. There was no way to know all those injuries would occur. As we get older we gain wisdom which only comes through experience. You cannot read wisdom in a book. You learn it with real life experiences. Next time around in a similar situation the chances are Whiz will recall what happened Sunday and it will very much factor into his decision. He threw the dice and they came up snake eyes. He could have rolled a seven but it was not to be. The season is not over. Things look very bad. Who would ever have thought we would have come within a minute of winning the super bowl last year? We won the division going away. As Yogi said it aint over til its over. Time to start thinking good thoughts as we cannot change the past. Hope the players do not read this board as they would be in full revolt. Go Cards.
 

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Whisenhunt's plan to go half ass in an NFL game was a straight rookie mistake.

If you aren't going to show anything and you are only concerned about next week, then you pull all your starters and don't risk anything.

If you are going to play to win the third seed then you play to win the third seed consequences be damned.

Pick a side and stick with it. Playing half assed meant that we got the worst of both sides. We had injured players AND got embarrassed at home.

Further it was clear that we didn't give a damn about this game and the play was lackadasical, which only increases the chances of our players getting hurt. If the coach isn't trying to win, why the heck would the players?

So yeah...this week Whis is a feeb (whatever that means).

Maybe this why his contract hasn't been extended yet...??? I call him "Whizenstupid" for playing all of his PRO BOWL players. Now he may have lost us another chance at the Super Bowl.

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Calais Campbell hurt too? I'll never forgive Whisenhunt for this. Yes, he turned the franchise around. And yes, I'm still supportive of him. But on this particular point, I won't ever forgive him.


I agree. Whis should be on the first greyhound out of Phoenix. I have had season tickets since the early 90's and I can tell you we absolutely never had any of these problems before he got here. We never had a single guy sit injured on the sidelines for a playoff game before the Feeb. Not once.
 

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Maybe this why his contract hasn't been extended yet...??? I call him "Whizenstupid" for playing all of his PRO BOWL players. Now he may have lost us another chance at the Super Bowl.

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Really? Adrian Wilson didn't play.

I didn't realize that playing your players who are paid to play resulted in losing a chance at the Super Bowl.

So with your logic, Green Bay, Dallas, Philly, Minnesota and every other team will have all lost a chance to play in the Super Bowl.
 

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Absolutely not. Watch this video and especially Q's position as hes catching it in the slow motion replays. Kurts throw was not slow. It was not high and it didnt leave Q hung out to dry. The throw was perfectly placed leading him ACROSS THE MIDDLE where his route took him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9eZM_FcoQ

Thats just one of the dangers of being willing to go across the middle in football. Something Q is willing to do. It was a freak hit where he had a guy in the back pushing him into the guy in the front causing more force than usual. He most certainly wasnt hung out to dry.

Matts throw yesterday while in the middle of the field where his route was designed the throw was WAY high and left Boldin completely unprotected and defenseless as he went up to get it. Not really the same IMO.

I'll respectfully agree to disagree and leave it at that.
 

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Really? Adrian Wilson didn't play.

I didn't realize that playing your players who are paid to play resulted in losing a chance at the Super Bowl.

So with your logic, Green Bay, Dallas, Philly, Minnesota and every other team will have all lost a chance to play in the Super Bowl.

They had something to play for we really didn't Green Bays Coach was as stupid as ours was. All of the others had someting to do with. Bad analogy.

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