Booker injury

[95pro]

Hammy injuries are bizarre. You can be in great cardio and physical shape and still have them.

There’s no answer to why he had one.

KJ and Ken Griffey JR come to mind when it comes to hammy injuries.

Move on, he’s injured and he’ll recover from this minor injury.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Hammy injuries are bizarre. You can be in great cardio and physical shape and still have them.

There’s no answer to why he had one.

KJ and Ken Griffey JR come to mind when it comes to hammy injuries.

Move on, he’s injured and he’ll recover from this minor injury.

Agreed. Hamstrings strain and pop at random times all throughout the season. To try to pin a hamstring injury for a professional athlete on any given cause is an exercise in folly. The doctors don’t know, surely we can’t guess.

 

[BC867]

Of course you couldn't care less about the facts that don't support your ridiculous theory that somehow the Suns are to blame for random injuries. Naturally, you use Harden to support your claim, but ignore the other nine players. Outside of Barnes, there is no pressure on any of those players. Hamstring injury has nothing to do with the "pressure the Suns are putting on Booker", whatever the hell that is supposed to mean. He is a basketball player, one of the best ones in the league. There will always be pressure on him, and he is always going to play hard. What do you want him to do? Play in a protective bubble and stand at the three-point line, not moving the entire game?

Nobody is condoning anything, including "the mess the Suns have created", again- whatever the hell that means. We are not condoning anything. We simply live in reality and understand that it is what it is, and there are no 25 year-old John Stocktons and Karl Malones available that the Suns could sign to plug the holes at PG and PF spots.

You are entitled to your opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts. Booker's injury has nothing to do with his usage. Out of 11 players with similar injuries this year, only three are high-usage players. You are just making things up to support your perpetual whining about Sarver and the investors. We get it, you think that Sarver is the devil, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean that you can blame him for everything wrong in the world and not be called out on your crap.

Here is the Coach's take on Booker's injury and turnovers.

“We all know he’s our best playmaker, too. He’s our best scorer and he’s willing to make the right pass and find his teammates. It’s a little bit of getting tired, a little fatigued. Teams are overaggressive, doubling, trap him at times.”

It is what I've been saying. Four games into the season and Book is being overextended, with no relief in sight. Fatigue induces injuries and turnovers.

As far as Sarver, I resent that his leadership is running Book into the ground to cover up his inability to field a balanced and competitive team. Don't most of us?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...evin-booker-out-memphis-grizzlies/1775136002/

 

[Chaplin]

Here is the Coach's take on Booker's injury and turnovers.

“We all know he’s our best playmaker, too. He’s our best scorer and he’s willing to make the right pass and find his teammates. It’s a little bit of getting tired, a little fatigued. Teams are overaggressive, doubling, trap him at times.”

It is what I've been saying. Four games into the season and Book is being overextended, with no relief in sight. Fatigue induces injuries and turnovers.

As far as Sarver, I resent that his leadership is running Book into the ground to cover up his inability to field a balanced and competitive team. Don't most of us?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...evin-booker-out-memphis-grizzlies/1775136002/

Give it a rest. Him being doubled has NOTHING to do with playing point guard. He’s our best player and will be the focus of the defense every night regardless.

 

[taz02]

I don't know, I guess he's being over taxed but for 150m that's exactly what I would expect. Injuries happen, its part of the game.

Max contract guys are expected to do more. He's being paid to carry this team.

Having said that, its clear he needs more help and obviously ownership agrees and fired the GM because of it.

We need to immediately replace Anderson in the starting line up, offer our pick, mil. pick and one of JJ, Bridges or TJ for a top PG..

 

[BC867]

I don't know, I guess he's being over taxed but for 150m that's exactly what I would expect. Injuries happen, its part of the game.

Max contract guys are expected to do more. He's being paid to carry this team.

Having said that, its clear he needs more help and obviously ownership agrees and fired the GM because of it.

We need to immediately replace Anderson in the starting line up, offer our pick, mil. pick and one of JJ, Bridges or TJ for a top PG..

Or . . . the fired GM was the scapegoat of an overbearing Managing Partner. With another potential scapegoat, Jones, evidently next in line.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Him being doubled has NOTHING to do with playing point guard

he's doubled WHEN HE HAS THE BALL IN HIS HAND!
he'd be doubled less if he had the ball in his hand less.
he's TOP 6 of NBA players with the ball in their hand most!
if someone else competently handling the ball more, Booker would be pressured less!

no one is saying he got injured specifically BECAUSE HE PLAYED POINT
but it's logical he might not have been injured if he wasn't working so hard to compensate for the team's lack of balance (most significantly at the point)

Here is the Coach's take...“We all know he’s our best playmaker, too. He’s our best scorer...It’s a little bit of getting tired, a little fatigued. Teams are overaggressive, doubling, trap him at times.” Four games into the season and Book is being overextended, with no relief in sight. Fatigue induces injuries and turnovers.

BC, it doesn't matter how reasonable what you or i or coach says, there is a group here who are cranky about the injury and losses and will jump on anyone who dares suggest it's related to Booker's over exertion.

clearly they're in bully mode

 

[1tinsoldier]

I now just can’t understand how Magic Johnson injured his hamstring in the 1989 finals if he wasn’t really a point guard.

i really don't get the point?
did someone say you have to be a pg to get a hamstring injury?
and though it doesn't matter, Magic WAS playing point when he got the injury

it's not rocket science. there is a correlation between injuries and:
1. how hard you play
2. how much you play
3. how much defensive pressure is on you when you play,
and the more you have the ball, the more physical stress you're under

it's a game of Hot Potato
when you've got the potato your risk increases!

if you pretend you don't get the significance of the ball,
you're just ball-busting for the fun of it

 

[AzStevenCal]

BC, it doesn't matter how reasonable what you or i or coach says, there is a group here who are cranky about the injury and losses and insist on jumping on anyone who dares suggest it's related to Booker's over exertion.

don't waste your breath. clearly they're in bully mode

I think you're being too quick to play the victim card. First off, I'm pretty sure the comments from Koko were about Booker's 9 turnovers, he wasn't suggesting the injury came from Booker having to do what every other star has to do. I do agree he needs help but it's a huge stretch to lay this injury on his lack of support. IMO. He works hard on offense, most good players do - he frequently rests on defense, most good players don't. So I don't see the overwork.

 

[Chaplin]

Booker is going to be doubled every time he touches the ball. What is funny is that BC and tinsoldier think that he will have the ball mich LESS if he’s the playmaker. It will be marginal at best.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Booker is going to be doubled every time he touches the ball. What is funny is that BC and tinsoldier think that he will have the ball mich LESS if he’s the playmaker. It will be marginal at best.

how MUCH difference a pg would make, is a more reasonable debate than what has been taking place. also, the more scoring we get from the pg position, the MORE of a difference it will make

BC and tinsoldier didn't say he'd "have the ball mich less", so i don't know why "what we think is funny"?

 

[Western Font]

i really don't get the point?
did someone say you have to be a pg to get a hamstring injury?
and though it doesn't matter, Magic WAS playing point when he got the injury

it's not rocket science. there is a correlation between injuries and:
1. how hard you play
2. how much you play
3. how much defensive pressure is on you when you play,
and the more you have the ball, the more physical stress you're under

it's a game of Hot Potato
when you've got the potato your risk increases!

if you pretend you don't get the significance of the ball,
you're just ball-busting for the fun of it

Just a joke on board history. One poster famously claims/claimed that Magic wasn’t a PG. Another poster likes to bring it up. I was just joking that if Booker injured his hammy because he’s playing PG, how did Magic injure his when he “wasn’t.”

Maybe it was a stretch (ha).

 

[AzStevenCal]

Just a joke on board history. One poster famously claims/claimed that Magic wasn’t a PG. Another poster likes to bring it up. I was just joking that if Booker injured his hammy because he’s playing PG, how did Magic injure his when he “wasn’t.”

Maybe it was a stretch (ha).

Well, I thought it was funny.

 

[Yuma]

I just dropped my sandwhich. That wouldn't have happened if the Suns had a real PG.

 

[Suns_fan69]

Honestly the thing the Suns need more than a PG is consistent shooting from the outside. There's a reason we looked so good against Dallas, and it wasn't because we had a PG. That and not turning the ball over, which I concede would be improved with a better PG.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Honestly the thing the Suns need more than a PG is consistent shooting from the outside. There's a reason we looked so good against Dallas, and it wasn't because we had a PG. That and not turning the ball over, which I concede would be improved with a better PG.

Yeah, Ariza and Warren made a huge difference in that first game and we haven't seen much of it since then. Booker and Ayton can only do so much, those two need to be a positive factor.

 

[1tinsoldier]

I just dropped my sandwhich. That wouldn't have happened if the Suns had a real PG.

Yuma wants a piece of the action from Bullyhead City

 

[Superbone]

I just dropped my sandwhich. That wouldn't have happened if the Suns had a real PG.

I'm surprised you didn't strain your hamstring as well.

 

[sunsfan88]

Booker has not looked the same physically since coming back from injury and his numbers reflect that.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'd rather him sit out till he's actually comfortable moving around and running around before coming back.

 

[sunsfan88]

And Booker, the team’s desired closer, acknowledges he’s recently been “a step slow,” hindered by a lingering hamstring injury that still requires him to wear a heating pad coming out of the halftime locker room. Booker went 0-for-4 from the field during Saturday’s fourth quarter (but did record eight of his 12 assists during that period), about a week after missing four consecutive overtime shot attempts to close a crushing loss to Boston.

https://theathletic.com/660928/2018...swing-as-suns-lose-to-thunder-for-third-time/

This is just piss poor management by the Suns of their franchise player to not force him to sit till he's completely recovered and gets back his speed and athleticism. Granted he's not some athletic freak that relies on it all that much but it's just obvious that he doesn't look right when he's on the court.

He needs rest. If sitting him for a game or two or even a week or however long to rest and get him back healthy then that's what they need to do. It's not helping anyone by him going out there like this and it will only worsen him imo.

 

[95pro]

Booker did miss some wide open shots, he should be able to nail those injury or not. But the guy needs to sit out, I'm not sure what he's trying to prove.

 

[BC867]

This is just piss poor management by the Suns of their franchise player to not force him to sit till he's completely recovered and gets back his speed and athleticism. Granted he's not some athletic freak that relies on it all that much but it's just obvious that he doesn't look right when he's on the court.

He needs rest. If sitting him for a game or two or even a week or however long to rest and get him back healthy then that's what they need to do. It's not helping anyone by him going out there like this and it will only worsen him imo.

In response to this suggestion, they should, but the Suns backed themselves into a corner. Without Booker in the lineup as their top scorer and top playmaker, we'll lose every game by 30-40 points.

Warren can't carry the offense by himself and, with them playing Ayton so far from the basket, he's been reduced to a Point Center on offense and rebounder on defense.

 

[leclerc]

Well Philly is a crap team that we should be able to beat, so let's give Booker this game and then see if there are 2-3 games coming up against top opposition that he won't mind sitting out. Playing through a hamstring is not a problem in Phoenix, just ask anyone in the front office who's been around basketball and remember that oh poo, that messed up KJ's career and many huuuuge opportunities for hanging championship banners in the purple palace. A healthy KJ and a healthy Sir Charles. (Jordan playing baseball.) We'd been a dynasty.

 

[leclerc]

Good thing about his hamstring injury is that it doesn't seem to slow down his defence.