Boris Diawat Bought out by Charlotte (CHA)

[SweetD]

Hmmm I think he is done, poor work ethic when he is not getting his touches. Still might be a cheaper alternative to Warick or Childress to take up bench space next year.

 

[jagu]

Hell to the No.

 

[jbeecham]

On the Suns broadcast last night they were talking about the Spurs being interested in him. They also said he was cut because the coaches got tired of telling him to shoot the ball.

 

[Superbone]

Been there, done that.

 

[Budden]

Occasionally, I used to wonder what it'd be like if they made a movie with the same plot as "Juwanna Man", except where a WNBA star dresses up like a man and plays in the NBA. Then I watched Doris Diaw play. I no longer wonder what such a movie would be like.

(**Spoiler Alert** It turns out the movie would be more of a "digital short" than a "feature film", per say. Doris' character expresses interest in trying out for a bunch of NBA teams, but none of them even invite him to training camp for informal workouts. Bitter and disillusioned, he directs his frustration at the nationwide restaurant chain "Old Country Buffet" and spends the rest of his days trying to disprove the feasibility of an "All You Can Eat" meal. He is unsuccessful, because he is too lazy to get up from the table and go to the buffet to refill his plates enough times.)

On a related note, I would personally be against the Suns signing Diaw.

 

[jibikao]

I may be one of the few that actually really liked Diaw when he was here. I thought he was very versatile.

How come people say he has poor work ethnic? He gained weight? And...?

 

[FArting]

I may be one of the few that actually really liked Diaw when he was here. I thought he was very versatile.

How come people say he has poor work ethnic? He gained weight? And...?

He was inconsistent He would have a good game then disappear.

 

[Cheesebeef]

such a shame with Diaw. Dude had tons of tools.

I still think if we would have had him during Game 5 of that Spurs series we would have won that sucker. Amare's suspension I got... he fully charged the court, but Diaw rushed in to see if Nash was okay and then immediately retreated when he saw a fight like the frenchy he is.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I may be one of the few that actually really liked Diaw when he was here. I thought he was very versatile.

How come people say he has poor work ethnic? He gained weight? And...?

He had enough good games to raise expectations pretty high. As a role player, IMO, he can be a terrific asset. Unfortunately though, he's hard to count on because you never know when he'll turn passive. I'd probably bring him in if Nash had interest but I certainly wouldn't toss him into that locker room unless the leaders wanted him. As for the work ethic, his night time carousing became common knowledge and he did go from solid to Pillsbury while he was here. There is no denying his talent and versatility but what do you do with a guy whose performance ranges from best player on the court to average NBDL bench warmer?

Steve

 

[devilalum]

I heard Doris was going to pursue a career selling knit handbags.

Definitely one of the 5 best trades the Suns ever made.

 

[Mainstreet]

I've had my fill of Diaw. The Suns should be looking at younger players for the future.

 

[Mainstreet]

Sean Williams was waived by the Mavericks. He might be worth a look at age 25.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/220008/Mavericks_Waive_Sean_Williams

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sean_williams/career_stats.html

 

[AzStevenCal]

I've had my fill of Diaw. The Suns should be looking at younger players for the future.

I'm surprised you'd write him off considering you were in favor of bringing in Turiaf. Diaw is only 9 months older than Ronny and IMO fits our style of play better, is much more familiar with our style of play and on his good days is a much better player than Turiaf. If there's a young guy in the NBDL that looks like he can offer what we need I'd be in favor of going that route but if I had to choose between Turiaf and Diaw, I'd take Boris in a flash. I've been one of Frye's biggest supporters around here but he's really hurt us at times this year and Boris would give us an option that we currently lack.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm surprised you'd write him off considering you were in favor of bringing in Turiaf. Diaw is only 9 months older than Ronny and IMO fits our style of play better, is much more familiar with our style of play and on his good days is a much better player than Turiaf. If there's a young guy in the NBDL that looks like he can offer what we need I'd be in favor of going that route but if I had to choose between Turiaf and Diaw, I'd take Boris in a flash. I've been one of Frye's biggest supporters around here but he's really hurt us at times this year and Boris would give us an option that we currently lack.

Steve

As I viewed it, the Suns looking at Turiaf would have been based upon... if the Suns were wanting to make a legitimate playoff run. See by quote from another thread below.

If the Suns were wanting to make a legitimate run for the playoffs, Ronny Turiaf would make them stronger at the PF position. He can bang with the best of them and is a space eater. He was waived by the Nuggets.

Now it looks like the Suns would be better off forgetting the whole playoff thing. Mentioning Turiaf was a "what if" situation. Now Turiaf is off the market and Nash is doing his best Diaw imitation by his reluctance to shoot. Any players the Suns bring in now should be looking towards the future. The Suns winning streak was some nice tasting kool-aid.

Please no Diaw. Been there, done that. His reluctance to shoot appears to be one of the reasons he was waived. See what Silas had to say in the linked ESPN article.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...ats-waive-boris-diaw-agreeing-contract-buyout

 

[AzStevenCal]

As I viewed it, the Suns looking at Turiaf would have been based upon... if the Suns were wanting to make a legitimate playoff run. See by quote from another thread below.



Now it looks like the Suns would be better off forgetting the whole playoff thing. Mentioning Turiaf was a "what if" situation. Now Turiaf is off the market and Nash is doing his best Diaw imitation by his reluctance to shoot. Any players the Suns bring in now should be looking towards the future. The Suns winning streak was some nice tasting kool-aid.

Please no Diaw. Been there, done that. His reluctance to shoot appears to be one of the reasons he was waived. See what Silas had to say in the linked ESPN article.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...ats-waive-boris-diaw-agreeing-contract-buyout

Diaw can be frustrating, no doubt. Still, if you were entertaining thoughts of a playoff run just a few days ago I'd question why you've shelved those thoughts. I never really thought we could get a win in a back to back road trip against Miami and Orlando. I've never liked our chances to make the postseason but I'd give them the identical chance today for a playoff spot that I would've given them prior to the last two games.

IMO, at this point of the season, there really isn't much of a difference in where we'll draft no matter what we do. If we make the playoffs, we'll probably be one of the first playoff teams to pick and if we miss the playoffs we'll probably be one of the last lottery teams to pick. I don't really see much difference between selecting 13th or 16th. That said, we might as well do everything we can to make this season interesting. I think Diaw makes us a little stronger so I wouldn't have a problem bringing him back in.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

Given the rising cost of fuel, I think the added tonnage of Boris Diaw would make the teams travel expenses exorbitant.

And no to Sean Williams. The guy is a scum bag. If I have to root for a pure ****** they better be gushing talent, and not a scrub like him.

 

[Phrazbit]

As I viewed it, the Suns looking at Turiaf would have been based upon... if the Suns were wanting to make a legitimate playoff run. See by quote from another thread below.



Now it looks like the Suns would be better off forgetting the whole playoff thing. Mentioning Turiaf was a "what if" situation. Now Turiaf is off the market and Nash is doing his best Diaw imitation by his reluctance to shoot. Any players the Suns bring in now should be looking towards the future. The Suns winning streak was some nice tasting kool-aid.

Please no Diaw. Been there, done that. His reluctance to shoot appears to be one of the reasons he was waived. See what Silas had to say in the linked ESPN article.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...ats-waive-boris-diaw-agreeing-contract-buyout

If the Bobcats wanted Diaw to attack the basket more they should have just covered the rim in pastries.

 

[BC867]

Been there, done that.

Yup, ignorance (or stupidity) is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yup, ignorance (or stupidity) is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

If I had the power to outlaw one phrase it would be this one. It gets used almost daily here as if it had some special relevance to every situation. Sometimes, you have to keep doing the same thing so that you develop proficiency in it. Sometimes you do something like bringing Diaw back because even though he's been here before, the story has changed.

Steve

 

[devilalum]

If I had the power to outlaw one phrase it would be this one. It gets used almost daily here as if it had some special relevance to every situation. Sometimes, you have to keep doing the same thing so that you develop proficiency in it. Sometimes you do something like bringing Diaw back because even though he's been here before, the story has changed.

Steve

The song remains the same.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The song remains the same.

I can think of several reasons not to bring Diaw back in so I'm not wholly convinced we should sign him. The main reason that I would push to bring him back in though is if they felt he could play alongside Gortat. Frye is just killing us, especially on the road and I just can't see Diaw playing any worse than Channing has been. If Frye is hitting from the outside, you leave him in there but if not you let Morris and Diaw have his minutes. Diaw, as a key starter is a disappointment but Diaw as a 7th man might be a nice asset.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

If I had the power to outlaw one phrase it would be this one. It gets used almost daily here as if it had some special relevance to every situation. Sometimes, you have to keep doing the same thing so that you develop proficiency in it. Sometimes you do something like bringing Diaw back because even though he's been here before, the story has changed.

Steve

I'll go with the quote attributed to Albert Einstein on this one.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I've tried doing the above and I do believe (unless there are variables), Einstein was right.

Heck, if I had brains I'd be just like Albert Einstein.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'll go with the quote attributed to Albert Einstein on this one.



I've tried doing the above and I do believe (unless there are variables), Einstein was right.

Heck, if I had brains I'd be just like Albert Einstein.

I am very familiar with the quote and I've used it myself BUT it doesn't apply to every situation (far from it). Repetition is often the cornerstone of proficiency. If you broadly apply that quote you'd give up long before you mastered anything. The trick is knowing when to give it up.

Also, in the real world, you rarely do the same exact thing. There are too many variables involved to just assume that bringing back a player will produce the same results (positively or negatively). I think that quote makes a lot of sense in the controlled environment that scientists hope to function in but that's where it ends. It has more comedic value in the day to day world than anything else, IMO.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

I am very familiar with the quote and I've used it myself BUT it doesn't apply to every situation (far from it). Repetition is often the cornerstone of proficiency. If you broadly apply that quote you'd give up long before you mastered anything. The trick is knowing when to give it up.

Also, in the real world, you rarely do the same exact thing. There are too many variables involved to just assume that bringing back a player will produce the same results (positively or negatively). I think that quote makes a lot of sense in the controlled environment that scientists hope to function in but that's where it ends. It has more comedic value in the day to day world than anything else, IMO.

Steve

I did mention "variables." However, there are things which cannot be accomplished no matter how many times one tries. I do agree that repetition and hard work can accomplish most things given the ability.

 

[elindholm]

I'll go with the quote attributed to Albert Einstein on this one.

I won't debate the merits of the aphorism, but the "attribution" to Einstein is spurious. No reputable source confirms that he said or wrote this, but somehow it has become "common internet knowledge" that he's responsible for it. If you think a bit about what Einstein spent his life studying and read other (reliable) quotations of his, you can get a sense of what his mind was like, and it's pretty clear that he would not have said such a silly thing.