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First episode was FANTASTIC!
 
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i don't care what anyone says, this is the tv best show ever made.

I really like the season premiere, but last night was just sick. The entire convo between Walt and the gun dealer... "Walt, go home."... "20 million dollars" and watching Jesse need everything, all the time to keep his mind from the universe he now resides in post-Gale... just freaking intense.
 
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another great episode... Marie's meltdown, Hank getting back on the case Skylar getting deeper and deeper... Saul and his bodyguard (by far the funniest scene in the show so far this year)... and what can be said about everything happening in Jesse's storyline but WOW... "MONEY!!!!!!"

funny thing about this episode... it almost feels like Walt was AWOL for the most part. Still didn't miss a beat though which really says something about your show when the tour de force star power's role goes dim for an episode and it's still mesmerizing TV.

Gilligan said this will be the penultimate season. Show's only gonna run 5 seasons. Happy and sad about that. Happy because it means he KNOWS the ending, but I will miss the hell out of this show when it's gone. It's simply the best thing I've ever seen on TV.
 

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I've found that I enjoy this show a LOT more when I'm able to watch episodes one right after another. Still the best show on right now, by far. The pacing just feels a lot slower this season. But that's probably because I have to wait a week for the next episode.
 
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I've found that I enjoy this show a LOT more when I'm able to watch episodes one right after another. Still the best show on right now, by far. The pacing just feels a lot slower this season. But that's probably because I have to wait a week for the next episode.

it's definitely building. it usually seems like they build tension for the first 5 episodes, have two REALLY explosive episodes right in the middle of the season, let the audience catch their breath for an episode or 2 and then just start cranking the tension again till it hits 11.
 

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I've found that I enjoy this show a LOT more when I'm able to watch episodes one right after another. Still the best show on right now, by far. The pacing just feels a lot slower this season. But that's probably because I have to wait a week for the next episode.
I've finally caught up myself and I will definitely miss being able to watch 3, 4 episodes back-to-back. I think I managed to go through the first three seasons in two weeks or so. This show is extremely addictive.
 

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I love this show, but it's at its best when it's dark humor. When they focus on the drama, it's just freakin' dark. Darker than Dexter, which is always tongue-in-cheek and never actually challenges ones ethos. Breaking Bad ... they keep making it harder and harder to find someone to root for. For a time they even made RJ hard to root for, and that takes a lot of work to make a kid with Cerebal Palsy to be hard to root for. When Walter White killed those two gang bangers -- who killed a boy whom they recruited to kill a rival drug dealer -- I thought the show was *this close* to going off the rails. They brought it back by focusing on the faux-Daddy relationship WW has with Jesse, but that was a real close call, IMO. I guess they would argue it was something that had to be done to move WW's character forward, but it really muddied the water. Not only was it hard to accept a (former) science teacher could end up there, even after watching his transformation, but it made sympathy for any of the "good guys" almost impossible. I thought they did a better job with Jesse's struggle with taking a life than they did WW, who seemed (and this is probably on purpose) to have lost his conscience.

That said, I don't think the show's ever off. There's never a episode that looks like the writers or actors took a day off, and the casting has been spot on from the start. I've started watching this again after taking a long break (because it was really depressing me afterawhile with so much emotional investment required in WW), but I've found the new direction appealing again. Or maybe it's just my perspective. When you look at this as a show that shows how good people become bad people -- and how you simply can't be a good person who lives in that world -- it's not only acceptable, it's compelling. I can't think of another show that made it's whole premise about characters we probably all know and take them to such a dark place.
 
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I assume rehab. 0% chance they kill him.

i don't think it's either. i suspect Mike's got the guy who stole Jesse's money in his trunk and Mike's gonna force Jesse to either REALLY be the killer Jesse thinks he's become and kill that guy or make him realize he's not that guy so he can snap back in line. Mike kills that guy, Jesse gets back a little bit to normal and is back in line. Or Jesse kills that guy, but I REALLY don't see that happening because the audience would completely stop rooting for him if he killed someone he didn't absolutely have to, like he did Gale.

basically i think this is Mike's opportunity to scare Jesse straight... Jesse made a point to realize they wouldn't kill him because why bother putting a blind-fold on him. well, in the middle of the desert, if that guy is in the trunk and they remove the blindfold, they'll have to kill him and they question will be just how far has Jesse broken bad at that point.
 

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Will one of you please send me season 1 and 2. :) Netflix is still a very long wait. :(
 

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i don't think it's either. i suspect Mike's got the guy who stole Jesse's money in his trunk and Mike's gonna force Jesse to either REALLY be the killer Jesse thinks he's become and kill that guy or make him realize he's not that guy so he can snap back in line. Mike kills that guy, Jesse gets back a little bit to normal and is back in line. Or Jesse kills that guy, but I REALLY don't see that happening because the audience would completely stop rooting for him if he killed someone he didn't absolutely have to, like he did Gale.

basically i think this is Mike's opportunity to scare Jesse straight... Jesse made a point to realize they wouldn't kill him because why bother putting a blind-fold on him. well, in the middle of the desert, if that guy is in the trunk and they remove the blindfold, they'll have to kill him and they question will be just how far has Jesse broken bad at that point.


I think you may be correct on this. Good call. Can't wait to find out.
 

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I think Mike's gonna scare Jesse -- maybe make him decide if he wants to live or die by making him face death. Remember that story Mike told Walt about his days as a cop? Mike's gonna make the same mistake twice. I think. Deep down, I think Mike thinks of Walt as an innocent bystander, and maybe has a crisis of conscience every time Walt -- or Walt's faux-son Jesse -- gets in harm's way. Ultimately he'll do his boss' bidding, but it's a line he doesn't really want cross because Walt and Jesse aren't wholly tainted like the people he usually deals with. Old-school cop ethic.

No way they kill Jesse. Jesse is the hot button that keeps Walt moving. Walt feels totally compelled to keep Jesse out of harm's way, even though it's against his best interest to allow Jesse to stay alive.
 

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I think Mike's gonna scare Jesse -- maybe make him decide if he wants to live or die by making him face death. Remember that story Mike told Walt about his days as a cop? Mike's gonna make the same mistake twice. I think. Deep down, I think Mike thinks of Walt as an innocent bystander, and maybe has a crisis of conscience every time Walt -- or Walt's faux-son Jesse -- gets in harm's way. Ultimately he'll do his boss' bidding, but it's a line he doesn't really want cross because Walt and Jesse aren't wholly tainted like the people he usually deals with. Old-school cop ethic.

No way they kill Jesse. Jesse is the hot button that keeps Walt moving. Walt feels totally compelled to keep Jesse out of harm's way, even though it's against his best interest to allow Jesse to stay alive.

Obviously Mike is going to do something to Jessie but I don't think he is going to give him one more chance and threaten to kill him like the guy in his story since he made such a big point to Walt about never taking half measures.
 

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Obviously Mike is going to do something to Jessie but I don't think he is going to give him one more chance and threaten to kill him like the guy in his story since he made such a big point to Walt about never taking half measures.

Which is why it would be such a big reveal about Mike's story arc if he ignored his own advice.

I'm sticking to my guns on this. :D
 
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and... as usual... we were all wrong about Mike and Jesse. That's what I love about this show... it so rarely goes in the direction I expect it to. really enjoyed Walt's ego getting the best of him after Skylar started dictating how his life was going to be lead and excited that Hank's getting back on the case. This is one show where i think by the end, Hank WILL find out who Walt really is, as opposed to Dexter, where I don't think they'll ever have the balls to let his true colors ever come out to Deb. Last season was their opportunity and they completely punted there.

the season's been more a slow burn than any of the previous seasons, but it's still the best show on TV.
 

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This is a thought I had during the week, say Hank realizes Jesse is part of the Heisenberg case and he is closing in on him, who would Walt choose, Hank or Jesse? It gave me pause because I think Hank is really the one character Walt can have any kind of sincere conversation with (albeit leaving certain facts out). Would Hank find some way to let Walt get away or would he go full-bore after him? As you said Cheese, Hank is going to find out. Once he does it will either be the end of the show or the end of his life. Just wondering which one it will be.

Loved the montage they did of Jesse and Mike. You could just feel the pain Mike was in having to spend the day with this idiot.
 
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this show is starting to do a really good job of turning Walt into the bad guy and by bad guy, i mean, almost the guy I'm starting to root AGAINST. love watching the arc his character is going through. it's unlike any other i've ever seen on TV.
 
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