Breaking Bad (AMC)

[Shane]

Walt's pants from the pilot episode on the ground

Thanks

 

[sunsfan88]

But they wouldn't stick around and wait for a phone call. They would of taken a report and left.

Hell no they wouldn't. According to the police report, he attacked her with a knife and then ran off. If the police leave, who is to say that he won't come back and finish off the job?

Police would never just come and leave like that in a scenario like that. They wouldn't just abandon Skylar with 2 kids when the physical abuser is still out there.

He took her in the heat of the moment because she was the only family he had left at that point. His wife and son had just turned on him. Only after the bathroom scene where she starts crying for her mother does he realize that he can't keep her and he comes up with the phone call idea to get Skyler off the hook.

This seems more like it.

 

[Phrazbit]

Call me nuts. But that phone call in no way exonerates Skyler from anything.

I think it will depend on if Marie lets the cops know how long Skyler knew the truth. Or if Beneke speaks up about where his IRS money came from and the "beating" he took.

I think the police would buy that Skyler was only complicit out of fear for her life and her kids. They even have a bit of a record to back that up, when she called 911 in season 3 after Walt moved back in.

 

[CtCardinals78]

The flashback scene that opened Ozymandias was the final scene shot in the series.
More here:

http://www.vulture.com/m/2013/09/ri...d-ozymandius-interview.html?mid=twitter_nymag

 

[crisper57]

Not to nitpick but Walt's baldness is due to his shaving his head, not the chemo.

Right, but it wouldn't grow back if he was still on chemo. The flash-forward shows him having a pretty healthy hairline, which wouldn't work if he was using chemo to fight the cancer raging in his body. Either way, by his 52nd birthday, he isn't on chemo anymore.

So either he is finally cured, or he gave up the fight and it started to grow back.

 

[crisper57]

Which in any real reality it wouldn't

I am curious, since you are the real-life expert. How would the police proceed after hearing that conversation?

He clearly spells out that she knew for a long time, but he also infers that she remained silent out of fear for her safety. Is there anything plausible she can say or do at this point to confirm Walt's story?

I mean, he did kill 10 prisoners in custody within 6 minutes, so how could she feel safe going to the police?

Just curious, because Vince Gilligan has been known to take some liberties with reality from time-to-time.

 

[Southpaw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias



From wiki:
Analysis
The central theme of "Ozymandias" is the inevitable decline of all leaders, and of the empires they build, however mighty in their own time.

 

[crisper57]

Also, the bad guy from Watchmen, who basically destroyed his world in order to save it.

Nerd alert.

 

[D-Dogg]

It got the cops to the house and set it up so that he could make the phone call to exonerate Skyler.

I don't think he put that together so quickly. His first reaction was to have Holly as a child who would never see him weak, have some of his family still, until the "mama" moment in the bathroom (which were here first words on the show) which snapped him back into reality. Then he channeled Heisenberg, made the call, exonerated Skylar and left Holly to safety.

But when he first took her, he was taking her, until "mama...maaama. Mama."

BTW, cops were already coming to the house...Walt Jr. made sure of that.

 

[Phrazbit]

In the flash forward at the start of the season its pretty obvious he did not beat the cancer. After buying the gun he coughs and pops some pills. Given his notoriety with the case becoming public I think it would be hard for him to even try to treat his cancer without risking capture.

And I agree with D-dogg about Holly. Walt took her in a panic, trying to cling to someone who might not hate him already. He only returned her (and made the effort to get Skyler off the hook) out of guilt.

 

[Gaddabout]

He clearly knew the police were listening, so his words were definitely meant to throw himself on his sword to offer a safety net for his family.

 

[D-Dogg]

He clearly knew the police were listening, so his words were definitely meant to throw himself on his sword to offer a safety net for his family.

I think that's pretty clear, especially because he's telling lies in it.

However, I also think he channeled some of his inner true feelings in the call as well, and he's always craved the pride and recognition. Clearly, he was trying to isolate himself from the family to keep them in the clear, but at the same time, he built up his own ego/persona/accomplishment.

The writer and director have a nice interview out there about the phone scene...it's great.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think that's pretty clear, especially because he's telling lies in it.

However, I also think he channeled some of his inner true feelings in the call as well, and he's always craved the pride and recognition. Clearly, he was trying to isolate himself from the family to keep them in the clear, but at the same time, he built up his own ego/persona/accomplishment.

The writer and director have a nice interview out there about the phone scene...it's great.

agree with the above.

 

[sunsfan88]

I thought it was kind of weird how Flynn turned on Walt so fast. At first Flynn is listening to Walt, completely dismisses the drug story that Skylar told him and then Flynn even almost obeyed Walt to go pack.

Then Flynn sees Skylar use the knife on Walt and then Walt tries to get the knife away from Skylar and all of a sudden Flynn gets protective of his mom and threatens Walt?

 

[Cheesebeef]

I thought it was kind of weird how Flynn turned on Walt so fast. At first Flynn is listening to Walt, completely dismisses the drug story that Skylar told him and then Flynn even almost obeyed Walt to go pack.

Then Flynn sees Skylar use the knife on Walt and then Walt tries to get the knife away from Skylar and all of a sudden Flynn gets protective of his mom and threatens Walt?

Flynn had just listened to Walt talk about Hank being dead...pretty much at his hands. I think when he heard it from the horses mouth, he showed himself to really be the only incorruptable person in the entire show. the innocent who probably gets the hurt the most through all of this.

 

[Southpaw]

I thought it was kind of weird how Flynn turned on Walt so fast. At first Flynn is listening to Walt, completely dismisses the drug story that Skylar told him and then Flynn even almost obeyed Walt to go pack.

Then Flynn sees Skylar use the knife on Walt and then Walt tries to get the knife away from Skylar and all of a sudden Flynn gets protective of his mom and threatens Walt?

Never have seen the Jr. character as anything but an irritant and a target of Srs. desire to take care of his family.

 

[D-Dogg]

Calling my shot:

Spoiler

Uncle Jack and crew take out Marie, Skylar and Walt Jr. Maybe Holly too. They are all at Marie's, where the tape from Jesse is located and they want it gone because they are mentioned on it as the ones doing the prison hit. They eliminate Walt's family. This gets back to Walt, who guns for UJ and Todd, drops the ricin on lydia or whatever her name is, discovers Jesse, who flashes back to Gayle as he pulls the trigger on Walt, ending it.

Because at the end of Scarface, "everyone dies" which is why walt liked the show...and there have been too many Scarface references..including Saul wearing the white suit red shirt ensemble an episode ago. Jesse, like Hector, gets to take out former partner/nemesis who killed those close to him, just as Walt gets to take out the UJ crew who took out his family like Gus did to the cartel (and the dual scenes of Gus and Walt laying on the ground crying).

I'm probably 80% off.

 

[O]

Aaron Paul was on Kimmel last night and said something to the effect of:
"If you thought last week's episode was messy, the next two are even messier"

I can't wait.

 

[Southpaw]

BTW;

The final 2 episodes, "Granite State" and "Felina" will be 75 minutes long including commercials. Reprogram your DVRs accordingly.

Hmmm Granite State is the official state nickname of New Hampshire.

and

The title of the last episode, "Felina," has already been speculated on to no end. It's an anagram for "Finale." It's a Spanish word, meaning "cat like." Some have broken it up into elements Fe, Li, and Na (iron, lithium and sodium). So who knows?

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

BTW;

The final 2 episodes, "Granite State" and "Felina" will be 75 minutes long including commercials. Reprogram your DVRs accordingly.

Hmmm Granite State is the official state nickname of New Hampshire.

and

The title of the last episode, "Felina," has already been speculated on to no end. It's an anagram for "Finale." It's a Spanish word, meaning "cat like." Some have broken it up into elements Fe, Li, and Na (iron, lithium and sodium). So who knows?

The buildup is approaching Lost standards of speculation.

Purgatory anyone?

I really hope they don't go the "It was all a dream" angle, and have it all be something that Walt has go through his head as he dies on the operating table during surgery...or something along those lines.

 

[Superbone]

I really hope they don't go the "It was all a dream" angle, and have it all be something that Walt has go through his head as he dies on the operating table during surgery...or something along those lines.

No. Way.

 

[D-Dogg]

There is no effing way Gilligan goes out like that.

 

[D-Dogg]

BTW;

The final 2 episodes, "Granite State" and "Felina" will be 75 minutes long including commercials. Reprogram your DVRs accordingly.

Hmmm Granite State is the official state nickname of New Hampshire.

and

The title of the last episode, "Felina," has already been speculated on to no end. It's an anagram for "Finale." It's a Spanish word, meaning "cat like." Some have broken it up into elements Fe, Li, and Na (iron, lithium and sodium). So who knows?

First ep of season was Live Free or Die.

so Walt leaves New Hampshire and makes the choice of the state motto...the latter.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The buildup is approaching Lost standards of speculation.

Purgatory anyone?

I really hope they don't go the "It was all a dream" angle, and have it all be something that Walt has go through his head as he dies on the operating table during surgery...or something along those lines.

Man...by this point in that last season of Lost, all hope seemed literally lost for anything that made a lick of sense IMO. This shows has been charging full throttle with purpose.

And there ain't NO WAY Gilligan goes out with a dream. This show is a nightmare and, like a nightmare, it's ending is probably going to leave us all breathless.

 

[thirty-two]

Calling my shot:

Spoiler

Uncle Jack and crew take out Marie, Skylar and Walt Jr. Maybe Holly too. They are all at Marie's, where the tape from Jesse is located and they want it gone because they are mentioned on it as the ones doing the prison hit. They eliminate Walt's family. This gets back to Walt, who guns for UJ and Todd, drops the ricin on lydia or whatever her name is, discovers Jesse, who flashes back to Gayle as he pulls the trigger on Walt, ending it.

Because at the end of Scarface, "everyone dies" which is why walt liked the show...and there have been too many Scarface references..including Saul wearing the white suit red shirt ensemble an episode ago. Jesse, like Hector, gets to take out former partner/nemesis who killed those close to him, just as Walt gets to take out the UJ crew who took out his family like Gus did to the cartel (and the dual scenes of Gus and Walt laying on the ground crying).

I'm probably 80% off.

Sign me up, I'm down.