Breaking: Joey Porter arrested

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Moe deaths and accidents are atrubutited to texting and cell phones than DUI's .. No one should be drinking and driving, thats a given.. But DUI's are from a clouded mind .. Cell phones are from sober people..

What Im trying to say is this.. Anyone can make a bad decision in the wrong mind frame.. No excuse for cell phone addicts..


Absolutely. I know Porter has been a bit stupid in the past but this is the first real evidence that his attitude has led to him making a real stupid decision apart from the Levi Jones scenario which could in one sense be attributed to him getting involved because mob mentality at the time. At the end of the day i think Whisenhunt and the Cards should use this as a final warning again Porter to curb his attitude and if he does anything this stupid they should get rid of him.
 

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With the other chargers i firmly believe they are most likely gonna be dropped as it is almost impossible for a court to convict Porter of assaulting a police officer by ''slapping'' him.

That isn't even close to being true. Assault is a harmful or offensive act on a person, you don't even have to touch a person, even the threat of harm or offensive act could be considered assault. Slapping someone is without a shadow of a doubt an "assault". It just depends on if the DA wants to continue to press charges or hand out a lesser charge against a guy with high priced attorneys is another story.
 

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What will Godell look like if he suspends Porter, but has done to Roethlisburger for two alleged sexual assaults in less than on year>
 

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Nope, if you refuse they have to have sufficient evidence that your drunk to arrest you. If they already had the evidence you were drunk, then field sobriety or breathalyzer would just be to back up their case.

Citys make TONS of cash on DUI's. Cops WANT to arrest you for DUI.

That is completely bunk. There is a far higher % of cops that actually hate doing DD arrests. They are a complete pain in the ass. Police municipalities in no way shape or form instuct their officers to arrest because it's a cash cow either.

Oh and if you refuse FST's that in and of itself is enough for me to arrest you on suspicion of DUI. In fact it's the icing on the cake. What many of you are forgetting is not just the FSTs but the HGN test as well. It don't *** much more accurate than that.
 

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That isn't even close to being true. Assault is a harmful or offensive act on a person, you don't even have to touch a person, even the threat of harm or offensive act could be considered assault. Slapping someone is without a shadow of a doubt an "assault". It just depends on if the DA wants to continue to press charges or hand out a lesser charge against a guy with high priced attorneys is another story.

I think you misunderstood what i was trying to say. Because officers often put their hands inside the car and attempt to switch of the engine if the person is not co-operating, they often scare the person who regularly does more then just slap the hand of the officer. Porters lawyers would easily be able to argue that Porter was freaked out by the officer and therefore tried to slap the hand of the officer away. There is no judge or jury that could convict him of assault if that is the case. A friend of mine actually pushed the officer away from the car and still wound up having the charge dropped as it was deemed there was justifiable cause for the person to feel they need aggravated.

I perfectly understand that assault can come from a mere touch but its always relative to the situation and any potential provocation and believe me if Porter can get a half decent lawyer he'll be able to get that charge dropped.
 

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No because it is not a scientific test, it is biased on the officers opinion on how you performed. And an officer is ALWAYS going to say you smell of alcohol and your eyes are glassy. It gives them 'probable cause', it helps their case and its their 'judgment'.

But back on topic...Porter is an idiot

Who told you FST's ate based on an opinion?
 

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You can fail a field sobriety test by using mouthwash...

BTW how good are Cops' ofactories anyway, to be able to smell alcohol in the car?

When someone is drunk you can ABSOLUTELY smell it in the car coming from their breath. You don't need the senses of a dog.
 

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What will Godell look like if he suspends Porter, but has done to Roethlisburger for two alleged sexual assaults in less than on year>

Does he really care?


One is a franchise QB coming into the prime of his career for an elite franchise. The other has been a PIB LB who is ending his career for a team that is still on the fringes of the NFL. Thinking that these two situations will be equitable just isn't realistic IMO. :mad:
 

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From the sound of it, it seems like Porter may have intruded on a police investigation and the police were not amused. The use of the terminology of smelling alcohol on a person's breath or from a vehicle often give law enforcement a reason to investigate further. Police never like outside interference when they are doing their job. This sounds like something Porter could have completely avoided.
 

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From the sound of it, it seems like Porter may have intruded on a police investigation and the police were not amused. The use of the terminology of smelling alcohol on a person's breath or from a vehicle often give law enforcement a reason to investigate further. Police never like outside interference when they are doing their job. This sounds like something Porter could have completely avoided.

Absolutley, that is what angers all of us here. There was no need for Porter to get involved but im guessing his big ego felt the need to ''support'' his friend who was being questioned by the cops. Not only did he do nothing to help his mate but he landed himself in some deep s***t.
 

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That is completely bunk. There is a far higher % of cops that actually hate doing DD arrests. They are a complete pain in the ass. Police municipalities in no way shape or form instuct their officers to arrest because it's a cash cow either.

Oh and if you refuse FST's that in and of itself is enough for me to arrest you on suspicion of DUI. In fact it's the icing on the cake. What many of you are forgetting is not just the FSTs but the HGN test as well. It don't *** much more accurate than that.


Ok I'm dumb what is DD, FST's and HGN ???????
 

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Ok I'm dumb what is DD, FST's and HGN ???????

FST = field sobriety test

HGN = horizontal gaze nystagmus test

DD = drunk driving
 

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FST = field sobriety test

HGN = horizontal gaze nystagmus test

DD = drunk driving


Great he's ****ed and so are we for a few games...........:bang:

Has a white guy aver gottin a DUI siting in a parking lot? Sounds like a driving while black to me.
 
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Great he's ****ed and so are we for a few games...........:bang:

Has a white guy aver gottin a DUI siting in a parking lot? Sounds like a driving while black to me.

Ahhhhhh you better read that story again. According to reports JP went up to the officer that pulled over his buddy.
 

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Great he's ****ed and so are we for a few games...........:bang:

Has a white guy aver gottin a DUI siting in a parking lot? Sounds like a driving while black to me.

You can get a DUI if you safely pull off the road somewhere and go to sleep in the vehicle if you are intoxicated.
 

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Has a white guy aver gottin a DUI siting in a parking lot? Sounds like a driving while black to me.

another moronic statement. People of all colors get arrested for DUIs in a parking lot.
 

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You can get a DUI if you safely pull off the road somewhere and go to sleep in the vehicle if you are intoxicated.

Not really true. There must be other factors.
 

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Actually that last point does raise a fair question. Shane (im not sure if you'd know but its worth just asking) can you actually be arrested for DRIVING under the influence if you are actually stationary in a car park.
 
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Actually that last point does raise a fair question. Shane (im not sure if you'd know but its worth just asking) can you actually be arrest for DRIVING under the influence if you are actually stationary in a car park.

Yes depending on the circumstances. To long for me to type out on an iPod. Can give you better details when I get to a computer.
 

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Actually that last point does raise a fair question. Shane (im not sure if you'd know but its worth just asking) can you actually be arrest for DRIVING under the influence if you are actually stationary in a car park.

From what I understand if the keys are in the ignition and you are in the drivers seat yes you can even if stationary.
 

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That is completely bunk. There is a far higher % of cops that actually hate doing DD arrests. They are a complete pain in the ass. Police municipalities in no way shape or form instuct their officers to arrest because it's a cash cow either.

Oh and if you refuse FST's that in and of itself is enough for me to arrest you on suspicion of DUI. In fact it's the icing on the cake. What many of you are forgetting is not just the FSTs but the HGN test as well. It don't *** much more accurate than that.

You are correct that the majority of officers hate doing DUI arrests, but there most certainly are officers who love love love it, and departments who relish in the money that they bring in. Scottsdale, Tempe, Gilbert and Mesa come to mind immediately, especially Scottsdale.

And for everyone else, Shane is correct in that refusing FST is probably cause to arrest someone on suspicion of drunk driving when it is in combination with any of the other signs of being drunk, and subjecting the driver to breath/blood tests.
 
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