Breaking: Joey Porter arrested

[BullheadCardFan]

Just wish this guy could have been with Fritz learning what it is like to be a real leader and person.

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[BullheadCardFan]

Unfortunately, the thing many of these fools don't realize is that with the millions of dollars and the adoration comes extraordinary responsibility and scrutiny.

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I pity the fool...

 

[JeffGollin]

I'd like to know more -

Maybe more info has been published, but I'm wondering - Did they take a breathalizer test? What were the results?

It doesn't bode well for Joey (more later) but I can't help but wonder whether this was simply a matter of (a) a (very or mildly) drunk guy getting obnoxious with the cops and sticking his nose where he shouldn't have or (b) one of those cases of DWB (Driving While Black).

Until I know that, I'd be reluctant to pass judgment.

That said, call me a fossil, but I believe that "little if anything good ever happens after 1:30 am."

Joey or anyone else can say what they will about having the God-given right to cruise around wherever he wants at whatever time he wants to do it, but the reality is that he is paid a lot of money to represent a professional football team (& one that cares a lot about the image it projects to the public - especially kids). As a professional, he owes it to himself, his family and his employer to understand that actions have consequences and to think before he acts.

Regardless of "who struck John", at the very least, another red flag figures to be raised about Porter's character and his future status as a member of the Cardinals. But something greater is at stake:

Being arrested by the gendarmes at 1:30 am. Being shot & killed in a nightclub. Being killed by a jilted lover or your girlfriend's ex. Being accused of attempted rape - each deed is different, but each is a part of a common pattern: lacking the street-wisdom to avoid situations that can get you into trouble (or even worse, dead).

Memo to Joey - "If you dangle your hand out of the boat in shark-infested waters, you're likely to have it bitten off. Think."

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I almost always side with the police but my question is, and this will probably be Porter's defense, why is the cop reaching into the car and grabbing his arm? Porter is going to say he thought the cop was going after him. Probably not the case but his likely response. Still, is it a normal action for the police to reach into a driver's car and grab the drivers arm? Especially, going by the article, before he was under arrest.

Porter was not cooperating. First he pulls up to where the police are conducting a traffic stop which already puts the officers on edge (always does). Then when one approaches him he smells alcohol and asks for identification. Instead of complying Porter tries to close himself in his car. If I read it right, the officer first reached in to unlock the car door from the inside and had his hand/arm slapped away. Then he decided to grab Porter. Seems logical to me and Porter was in the wrong for not simply complying.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Porter was not cooperating. First he pulls up to where the police are conducting a traffic stop which already puts the officers on edge (always does). Then when one approaches him he smells alcohol and asks for identification. Instead of complying Porter tries to close himself in his car. If I read it right, the officer first reached in to unlock the car door from the inside and had his hand/arm slapped away. Then he decided to grab Porter. Seems logical to me and Porter was in the wrong for not simply complying.

It takes 14 pages on this pathetic topic to get to your summation that, astoundingly some can't seem to grasp. Wow...

People. Porter F'ed up. And when you eff up, there should be consequences - period! Life is about choices... you make the right choice and typically non-bad things happen. You make the wrong choice and typically you suffer the consequences. Porter was drinking and driving. BAD choice. Porter drove up to get close to a policeman conducting a stop. BAD choice. Porter failed to hand over his drivers license. BAD choice. Porter slapped/pushed away the officer's arm. BAD choice.
It's a sad statement that this topic needed 14 pages (and will probably be more)...

 

[BullheadCardFan]

That said, call me a fossil, but I believe that "little if anything good ever happens after 1:30 am."

Then I am a fossil also.

I live in a 24 hour city because of Casinos. People are out all hours of the day and night. But you still take a chance of being pulled over late at night and I am sure the later it gets the more chance of being pulled over is.

Bakersfield is not a 24 hour city so a person has very little reason to be out that time of night. Coming home from work, not likely. Out partying, very likely.

 

[Shane]

I'd like to know more -

Maybe more info has been published, but I'm wondering - Did they take a breathalizer test? What were the results?

It doesn't bode well for Joey (more later) but I can't help but wonder whether this was simply a matter of (a) a (very or mildly) drunk guy getting obnoxious with the cops and sticking his nose where he shouldn't have or (b) one of those cases of DWB (Driving While Black).

Until I know that, I'd be reluctant to pass judgment.

That said, call me a fossil, but I believe that "little if anything good ever happens after 1:30 am."

Joey or anyone else can say what they will about having the God-given right to cruise around wherever he wants at whatever time he wants to do it, but the reality is that he is paid a lot of money to represent a professional football team (& one that cares a lot about the image it projects to the public - especially kids). As a professional, he owes it to himself, his family and his employer to understand that actions have consequences and to think before he acts.

Regardless of "who struck John", at the very least, another red flag figures to be raised about Porter's character and his future status as a member of the Cardinals. But something greater is at stake:

Being arrested by the gendarmes at 1:30 am. Being shot & killed in a nightclub. Being killed by a jilted lover or your girlfriend's ex. Being accused of attempted rape - each deed is different, but each is a part of a common pattern: lacking the street-wisdom to avoid situations that can get you into trouble (or even worse, dead).

Memo to Joey - "If you dangle your hand out of the boat in shark-infested waters, you're likely to have it bitten off. Think."

Oh jesus here we go again. Another claiming possible "DWB" when Porter idiotically put himself in this position. WOW.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

I'd like to know a LOT more. Like Porter's side of the story. (Which will, obviously, be his attorney's version.) Any bystanders who witnessed this event to tell us what they saw?

Right now all I've heard is what the cops are saying happened. That's not enough information for me to convict/suspend Porter. Not at all.

 

[Mulli]

It takes 14 pages on this pathetic topic to get to your summation that, astoundingly some can't seem to grasp. Wow...

People. Porter F'ed up. And when you eff up, there should be consequences - period! Life is about choices... you make the right choice and typically non-bad things happen. You make the wrong choice and typically you suffer the consequences. Porter was drinking and driving. BAD choice. Porter drove up to get close to a policeman conducting a stop. BAD choice. Porter failed to hand over his drivers license. BAD choice. Porter slapped/pushed away the officer's arm. BAD choice.
It's a sad statement that this topic needed 14 pages (and will probably be more)..

agree. I would just like to say what the what is the cop putting his hand inside the car for? (did he really do that?)

also, I already forgive Jeezey peezy so long as he gets 10 sacks. That is really all I want from the guy. Pass rush.

 

[Lefty]

I hope the Cardinals let Porter go. We all knew before the signing he was not a model citizen and could be a problem, especially in the lockerroom. I say he is not worth the hassle and use the money on elsewhere.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I hope the Cardinals let Porter go. We all knew before the signing he was not a model citizen and could be a problem, especially in the lockerroom. I say he is not worth the hassle and use the money on elsewhere.

WHERE has he had locker room issues?

 

[Arizona's Finest]

WHERE has he had locker room issues?

Let it go mon ami. I have realized this isn't a worthwile fight.

He who cast the first stone.......

 

[Cheesebeef]

i can't believe some are immediately jumping to DWB. You know if he had signed with Washington a week ago people would be CRUSHING Porter right now.

funny.

 

[Lorenzo]

I always figured dallas would try to sign joey this offseason...i knew he would have been a fit lol. glad jerry didn't make another impulsive decision.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Interesting article on arrests in the NFL From San Diego Tribune

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/apr/11/1s11nfltally224029/

Looks something like 1/4 of these actually resulted in league action.

Here is Sando's take...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/16181/nfl-discipline-can-be-tough-to-predict

The league suspended then-Seahawks defensive tackle Rocky Bernard for the 2008 regular-season opener even though a court never convicted him on a domestic-violence charge. Bernard agreed to undergo domestic-violence training as part of an agreement that can result in charges being dropped after two years.

The NFL did not suspend Seahawks linebackers Lofa Tatupu or Leroy Hill over DUI arrests last offseason.

 

[AZCardsWin]

The NFL did not suspend Seahawks linebackers Lofa Tatupu or Leroy Hill over DUI arrests last offseason.

I think this thread took over as a "venting" session of all the Cardinals off-season changes. Having worked in law enforcement now for almost 19 years (6 more and I'm out-LOL) ive done & now supervise a ton of these types of arrests. In CA the charges are called misdemeanors - which I believe means "non indictable" in New Jersey terms.

Porter will easily plea this out- unless we are not hearing something else. His defense team will say the area he was in is a high crime area and he didnt realize "at first" the hand coming in his window was that of an officer. Charge will be dropped.

He is suspected of DUI (per the article I read on TMZ) but im guessing no breath test was ever done meaning the "smell of the odor of alcohol" in the car could of been from his friend and not him- hence that charge will be dropped.

The assault on the officer is tricky. A good defense attorney will argue that his client (Porter) wasnt meaning to resist and if he did there would of been a worse outcome. The situation took place late, there was a big misunderstanding in what Porter heard or something. I think this charge gets dropped too.

Hope this makes some of feel a little better. Hopefully at worst we lose Porter to only a 2 game suspension.

Go Cardinals!
~Tim in NJ

 

[WildBB]

His OFF THE FIELD ISSUES will have carry over affects.

Being beligerant in his personal life (towards authorities) at his age is not a good start.

Hopefully he wakes up and straightens "hisself" out - quickly. An apology is in order - and probably some alcohol abuse couciling.

 

[overseascardfan]

I bet the Bidwills are furious, guy signs 2 weeks ago and goes and pulls this crap.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The cop was reaching in to unlock the door before JP rolled the window up and JP supposedly slapped the cops hand away.

Yes, but i don't understand why he was reaching in the car in the first place. Couldn't he have ordered him out of the car and ,if Porter refused, take action from there? I don't know the protocol and am asking but it seems odd that he just reaches into the car to try and unlock the door.

 

[Duckjake]

http://autos.aol.com/article/dui-car-wouldnt-start/

For example, in a prior case, the meaning of "physical control" was stretched to include the possibility that a vehicle available to an intoxicated person could easily be pressed into service, irrespective of intent.

Wow. That's nuts. It could mean you could be arrested for DUI sitting in your living room or backyard if your car were in the garage or parked out front.

Probably more to the case than what the writer included.

 

[Renz]

Hope this makes some of feel a little better. Hopefully at worst we lose Porter to only a 2 game suspension.

Go Cardinals!
~Tim in NJ

Thanks, Tim. Like you said, any attorney worth his salt will get at least two of those charges dropped and most likely all three. At worst, he will get some community service for making contact with the officer.

No way will the DUI or resisting charges stick.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The NFL did not suspend Seahawks linebackers Lofa Tatupu or Leroy Hill over DUI arrests last offseason.

Thanks for posting that info. Would be nice if he did not get suspended.

 

[AZ Native]

Actually that last point does raise a fair question. Shane (im not sure if you'd know but its worth just asking) can you actually be arrested for DRIVING under the influence if you are actually stationary in a car park.

I was on a jury in Arizona on a DUI case. The defendant had been drinking and decided to pull off the road and sleep it off. He parked the car safely and got in the back seat to sleep it off. However, he left the keys in the ignition allegedly to listen to the radio. When the police approached him he was sound asleep in the backseat. The keys were in the ignition and the radio was playing. He was arrested for DUI.

If any of you have ever been on a jury, you know that your opinion is irrelevant. They read you the exact working of the law and you have sworn to apply it as it is written, regardless of your personal feelings.

Based on the law at that time in Arizona, over 20 years ago, we found him guilty of DUI. It was a sobering experience for me.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I hope the Cardinals let Porter go. We all knew before the signing he was not a model citizen and could be a problem, especially in the lockerroom. I say he is not worth the hassle and use the money on elsewhere.

It's been reported from many sources that he is a good teammate and is good in the locker room.

Where did you get this info?

The model citizen part may be close to the truth. His actions outside the locker room in his personal life have had ?'s attached to some.

If he pleas out and does not do this again then he learns a lesson (hopefully) and we move on.

 

[cardsfanmd]

He is a public figure and put himself at risk not only by getting involved in a situation when he shouldn't have, but assaulted an officer and "allegedly" was driving under the influence. I love the attitude that it's "not nearly as big a deal as some are making it out to be"

Have you read the police report? Were you there? You have no idea what happened. For all we know what he did was much worse than what was reported. One would think after the horrific damage that our media-darling super-celebrity Commander-in-Cheif has done to this country, Americans would be slightly less inclined to take the media's propaganda for scripture.

and the BS that this was somehow racially motivated. Talk about a total lack of responsibility, although I'm not at all shocked. Some fans are dumb enough to excuse any behavior.

While others are moronically gullible enough to believe anything they hear.