Breaking News: Cutler to Chicago!

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Will he really have flexability considering the #1 pick he got this year or their own pick will have to be used for a rookie QB most likely?

I dont think the #18 pick and if Cutler pans out a pick on 2010 at about the same spot massive. And it does not compare to the top 5 pick that Indy got in the George trade.

If I know the Patriots (McDaniels etc...) system.... They won't be looking for a new QB with the two picks. My guess is defense. If Sanchez is there (Which my guess is no) then take him. But the Bronco's made a stupid error turn into a shining pot o' gold IMO.

Now they have 3 more "top 90" picks at their disposal for areas of need.
 

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Bears just signed free agent Orlando Pace. My bet is they now go after Torrie Holt ( free agent, I think ). Of course Marvin Harrison is available.
 

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My brother's a huge Bears' fan, and he's ecstatic. He said that Erik Kramer was the best Bears QB of his lifetime before now. I had a tough time arguing. It will take a while to truly evaluate this trade, but I think both sides should be happy.

Agree with the tail end of your post. This was a good trade for both teams.

Chicago got their young big arm who has already played well and been well-coached. They already have a RB and a defense. Watch out NFCC.

Denver got a bonanza beyond their wildest dreams. A good young QB who matches their system and four draft picks to use mainly to build their horrible defense. A 1st this year and next and a 3rd and a 5th this year. Wow. Building blocks. Perfect.
 

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Where does Cutler fit on this list?

Mike Phipps, Purdue: The Bears traded their 1978 first and fourth-round draft choices to the Cleveland Browns for the eight-year veteran. Phipps started the 1979 season, yielded to Vince Evans and Bob Avellini, then started the team's final eight games to guide Chicago to a wild-card playoff berth. He started the first six games of the 1980 season before again giving up the job to Evans. His last season was in 1981. Traded for: 1977 Started in: 1978-1980 Released: 1981

Vince Evans, USC: Evans relieved Phipps in game two of the 1979 season, started the next three, then was lost for the year with a staph infection. The strong-armed, athletic signalcaller from USC was drafted by the Bears in 1977 in the sixth round. He would become just one of three Chicago quarterbacks in the 27 years between 1979 and 2005 to start all 16 games in a season (1981). After his Bears career ended, Evans played in the USFL then had a miraculous run in Los Angeles/Oakland for the Raiders, lasting until 1995. Drafted: 1977 (6) Started in 1978-1981, 1983 Released: 1983

Bob Avellini, Maryland: Avellini was part of the miracle draft class of 1975, picked in the sixth round. He became the starter that year, not yielding until the end of the 1978 season. Avellini sat on the bench from 1980-1981, but was given a shot as Mike Ditka's first starting quarterback in 1982. Perhaps he shouldn't have, as his nose was broken by the Detroit Lions in that season's opening game. He backed up Jim McMahon and Evans throughout 1983, but in 1984 he made his final start as a Bear against Seattle. Following the 38-9 loss, Mike Ditka said "good riddance" to Avellini. Drafted: 1975 (6) Started in: 1975-1979, 1984 Released: 1984

Jim McMahon, BYU: McMahon is heralded as one of the best two Chicago Bears quarterbacks in their 87-year history (along with Sid Luckman (1939-1950). Indeed, McMahon is the only Bear quarterback to be selected to a Pro Bowl in the modern era. McMahon was known for brilliant football smarts when he stepped to the line to look over the defense. His problem was not being able to stay healthy. From 1984-1987 McMahon won 21 straight regular season games as a starter. But he also missed 29 possible starts during that timeframe. Following a disappointing NFC Championship Game loss to San Francisco in 1988, McMahon was traded to San Diego. Drafted: 1982 (1) Started in: 1982-1988 Traded: 1989

Steve Fuller, Clemson: Fuller was acquired from the LA Rams via trade prior to the 1984 season to serve as insurance for the oft-injured Jim McMahon. Fuller promptly separated his shoulder in the preseason. He then played adequately in relief of McMahon from 1984-1986. He was on the roster but injured in 1987. Traded for: 1984 Started in: 1984-1986 Released: 1987
Rusty Lisch, Notre Dame: Not much to say here. Pressed into service in 1984, Lisch started against the Packers and lost. His performance was so dismal that day, Ditka had to sign an aged Greg Landry to play the final game against Detroit, which Landry won. Signed: 1984 Started in: 1984 Released: 1985

Greg Landry, Massachusetts: Landry completed 11 of 20 passes for 199 yards, 3 interceptions and a touchdown in his lone start (and appearance) as a Bears quarterback in the 1984 finale. He joined Mike Ditka's staff the following season, serving as quarterbacks coach and later offensive coordinator. Signed: 1984 Started in: 1984 Retired: 1984

Mike Tomczak, Ohio State: Tomczak was signed as an undrafted free agent in 1985. The Bears cut Rusty Lisch very shortly after acquiring Tomczak. He would get in for mopup duty in 1985, then actually started seven games in 1986 and six in 1987. In 1988, the good friend of McMahon's shared time with the veteran, starting Chicago's playoff victory in the Fog Bowl over Philadelphia. He entered 1989 as the starter, yielded to Jim Harbaugh briefly, then lost the starting quarterback battle to Harbaugh in 1990. Following that season, he was designated for Plan B Free Agency and picked up by Green Bay. Signed: 1985 Started in: 1986-1990 Designated for Plan B: 1991

Doug Flutie, Boston College: Flutie was deemed too small and short to play quarterback in the NFL. Ditka created an uproar when he started Flutie in the 1986 season finale and the playoff loss to the Washington Redskins. Flutie was traded to the New England Patriots during the 1987 player's strike, spent many years in the Canadian Football League (CFL), then found late success with the Buffalo Bills and San Diego Chargers. He retired following the 2005 season, when in his last play as an NFL player, he drop-kicked an extra point. Traded for: 1986 Started in: 1986 Traded: 1987

Jim Harbaugh, Michigan: Legend has it that Ditka threatened to quit when he was overruled in the draft room about taking Harbaugh with the 26th pick of the 1987 draft. Harbaugh was vilified at times by Bear fans, but is still the team's all-time leader in attempts, completions and ranks second to Luckman in passing yards. After Harbaugh's seven seasons in Chicago, he signed with Indianapolis where he was voted to the Pro Bowl following the 1995 season. Drafted: 1987 (1) Started in: 1988-1993 Released: 1994

Peter Tom Willis, Florida State: Like all other backup quarterbacks, Willis was a very popular backup to fans: until he played. He got his chance to start in 1992 when a frustrated Ditka benched Harbaugh. Willis played pedestrian at best, throwing eight interceptions and four touchdowns in two starts. Drafted: 1990 (3) Started in: 1992-1993 Released: 1994

Will Furrer, Virginia Tech: Furrer was a strong-armed left-handed quarterback with promise. The promise faded in his only start, Ditka's last game at Dallas. He completed 9 of 25 passes for 89 yards and three interceptions against the Super Bowl-bound Cowboys. Drafted: 1992 (4) Started in: 1992 Released: 1993

Erik Kramer, North Carolina State: Kramer would be known as one of the top three quarterbacks in Bears history, with McMahon and Luckman, if he could have done it for more than one year. Kramer piloted Ron Turner's first brilliantly successful offense in 1995, setting Bears season records for attempts, completions, yards and touchdown passes. But he was hurt in 1994, 96, and 98. His original three-year deal, inked in 1994, was extended for two more in '98, but he was cut after the first year. Signed: 1994 Started in: 1994-1998 Released: 1999

Steve Walsh, Miami: Signed as a backup to Kramer in 1994, Walsh took over after a Kramer injury and guided the team to its first playoff appearance since 1991. And its last playoff win since then. He lost the battle for the starting job in 1995 to Kramer and warmed the bench that season. Signed: 1994 Started in: 1994 Lost to free agency: 1996

Dave Krieg, Milton College: Kreig was so old when the Bears signed him in 1996 that the college he played for no longer had a football team as of that point. 1996 was his 17th season in the NFL, and he was signed strictly as a backup. With the Chicago Bears, however, that is an expectation to be playing by game five. That's exactly what happened when a struggling Kramer was lost for the season with a neck disc injury. Signed: 1996 Started in: 1996 Not re-signed: 1997

Rick Mirer, Notre Dame: Dave Wannstedt's Chicago epitaph says something about trading for Rick Mirer. Mirer's cost was a first-round pick, the 11th in the draft. He lasted one hideous, awful season in Chicago. He didn't even start the season, as Kramer was healed and Mirer looked terrible. Traded for: 1997 Started in: 1997 Released: 1998

Steve Stenstrom, Stanford: Stenstrom was one of several intriguing quarterbacks selected in the fourth round of the 1995 draft. Kansas City drafted him, then tried to quickly release him to re-sign him to a lower salary that year. The Bears jumped at the chance to steal the guy praised by Bill Walsh as a budget Joe Montana. Stenstrom was putrid in his 1998 starts, relieving an again-injured Kramer. Walsh then signed him in San Francisco and got to see how bad he was closeup. Signed: 1995 Started In: 1998 Released: 1999

Moses Moreno, Colorado State: Stenstrom was so bad that rookie seventh-round pick Moses Moreno started a game in 1998. He injured his knee, ending his career for the Bears. Drafted: 1998 (7) Started in: 1998 Released: 1999

Shane Matthews, Florida: Matthews was a third-stringer for the Bears from 1993-1995, then again in 1996, and was brought back for a third time in 1999. Following the release of Kramer, Matthews became the first starter for Gary Crowton's "razzle dazzle offense". Matthews played admirably from 1999-2001, but lacked a big-time arm. He struggled when he replaced Jim Miller following Miller's injury in the 2001 playoff game, and was not resigned. Signed: 1993, 1996, 1999 Started in: 1999-2001 Not resigned: 2002

Cade McNown, UCLA: Petulant, arrogant, smarmy, you name a few adjectives to describe the quarterback predicted to be the next Jim McMahon. Declared that he didn't drink, smoke or have premarital sex, but he was indicted for misusing handicapped parking placards. Angered his teammates so much that they reportedly threatened mutiny if he were started over Matthews in the final game of 2000. Had brief stops in Miami and San Francisco but never threw another pass in the NFL following a final completion against Detroit in the 2000 finale. Did pocket close to $20 million on his rookie deal. Drafted: 1999 (1) Started in: 1999-2000 Traded: 2001
Jim Miller, Michigan State: Miller was signed off the scrapheap in 1998 following Moreno's knee injury. He was a longshot to make the roster in 1999. He responded by throwing for huge numbers in Crowton's offense, then led the Bears to the playoffs in 2001. Almost as oft-injured as McMahon. Signed a five-year extension prior to the 2002 season, only completed one year on the deal. Signed: 1998 Started in: 1999-2002 Released: 2003

Chris Chandler, Washington: See Dave Krieg. Again, wasn't supposed to have to play for Miller. Again, had to replace Miller in week seven. Chandler was as injury-prone as McMahon and Miller, and was knocked woozy in Champaign against Philadelphia. Had to be dragged like an invalid to the medical trailer behind the Memorial Stadium scoreboard. Turned in gritty performances in 2003 in relief of Kordell Stewart, but it was for naught. Signed: 2002 Started in: 2002-2003 Not resigned: 2004
Henry Burris, Temple: Touted as the biggest surprise from the CFL since, and better than, Jeff Garcia. "Happy Hank" was his nickname. One pathetic start in Chicago is his legacy. Signed: 2002 Started in: 2002 Released: 2003

Kordell Stewart, Colorado: See Henry Burris, but with a better NFL resume. The Bears signed Stewart to a two-year deal over an available Jake Delhomme due to his experience, albeit bad experience. Finally benched for good after throwing game-changing interceptions at Green Bay, ending Chicago's dim playoff hopes. Signed: 2003 Started in: 2003 Released: 2004
Jonathan Quinn, Middle Tennessee State: Recommended by new Offensive Coordinator Terry Shea to help install his offense. Hoped to only fill mentor role. Was thrust into action when Rex Grossman blew up his knee in the season's third week. Absolutely abysmal: threw three picks and one touchdown with a 53.7 rating in 2004. Signed: 2004 Started in: 2004 Released: 2005

Craig Krenzel, Ohio State: Picked in the fifth round in 2004, ended up starting due to the utter misery that was Quinn's play. Became the starter on October 31st and won three games in a row--not bad for a rookie--but was helped immensely by his defense and poor competition. Injured on Thanksgiving at Dallas and was supplanted by Chad Hutichinson. Drafted: 2004 (5) Started in: 2004 Released: 2005
Chad Hutchinson, Stanford: Claimed off a surfboard following Rex Grossman's knee injury that ended his 2004 season. Defeated the Minnesota Vikings in his first start, looking like the answer to the Bears' quarterback problems of the past. Played very average in four straight losses to end the 2004 season. Looked to start in 2005 after Grossman's last injury, but was atrocious in the preseason. Cut. Signed: 2004 Started in: 2004 Released: 2005

Kyle Orton, Purdue: Pressed into duty when Grossman injured his ankle, and Hutchinson stunk, in the 2005 preseason. Became only the second rookie quarterback since 1970 to win 10 starts, but like Krenzel he was helped greatly by a great defense. Deserves a lot of credit for steadying the ship in 2005 prior to Grossman's return. Orton has also been installed as the third starter of the 2007 season, and has played remarkably well as the fulltime starter in 2008. Drafted: 2005 (4) Started in: 2005, 2007-2008

Rex Grossman, Florida: In 2006, Grossman became the first Chicago Bears quarterback since 1995, and only the third since 1981, to start all 16 games in a season. Alternately celebrated as a potential MVP and vilified as the team's worst problem, he led the 2006 Bears to the Super Bowl. Then generally stunk in that game. Entered the 2007 season with a goal of throwing 30 touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions, Grossman was benched after three games, then returned to start four more before suffering a season-ending knee injury. Final 2007 statistics: 4 touchdowns, 7 interceptions and a 67.1 QB rating. Drafted: 2003 (1) Started in: 2003-2008

Brian Griese, Michigan: Signed: 2006 Started in: 2007 Griese relieved Grossman as the Bears' starting quarterback in week four at Detroit. Griese put up fairly stunning numbers for a Bears quarterback, even winning two close comeback games at Green Bay and Philadelphia. But generally he played hot and cold, finishing with a 3-3 record in games he started, 3-4 in games in which he played a bulk of the snaps. Signed: 2006 Started in: 2007
 

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We just had to remove all the sharp objects from the office of the Vikings fan in the next cubicle.

:)

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As it pretains to the Cards I dont like it. Cutler makes the Bears better right away and we play the Bears this year on the road.
I don't know. Unless they upgrade at WR, I tink Cutler could have a fairly awful year in 09. Long-term he'll be fine, but he's learning a new system with crappy WRs and the coaches will be adjusting their gameplan as they learn to feel each other out. I think he could try to force a lot of passes this year that won't pan out because of poor route-running and inferior athletes at the other end of them.

Hopefully we'll play the Bears early in the season before the kinks are worked out and both Cutler and the coaching staff settle into a rythym that works for them.
 

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Good move for the Bears IMO.

Da Bears!

Urlacher finally has help.
 

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Excellent move for the Bears. You can't argue that the pick return was bad, because the haul was huge for the Broncos...BUT...unless you really, really like Orton, or any of the QBs after Stafford and Sanchez (I do not), then you're pretty much screwed on offense in Denver. Good luck filling Cutler's shoes, McDaniels!
 

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Good move for the Bears IMO.

Da Bears!

Urlacher finally has help.

Until he starts having his first problems there and is not coddled.
Watch when things start to go wrong and Cutler goes haywire. The Chicago media won't tolerate a headstrong whiner. Maybe I'm wrong and he's more of a team player than I think, but I don't believe so.
 

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Outstanding acquistion and gutsy move by da Bears. I agree with the hope that we play Chicago early on. The consensus of the analysts I've seen over the last couple of hours, excepting Broncos homer Mark Schlereth, is that this not only catapults the Bears into the NFC North favorites, but long-term makes them Super Bowl contenders.

Jay Cutler grew up a Bears fan, now he gets to play for the team he rooted for. Talk about a dream come true. Ironically Bears offensive coordinator Turner passed on the Jay Bird when he was coaching the Illini. Cutler desparately wanted to play for Illinois coming out of high school in Indiana.

As one commentator put it, there is joy in KC, Oakland, and San Diego. Not so much in Minnesota and Green Bay.

Charlie Casserly applauded the Bears, said they gave up a lot, but got a pro-bowl player versus prospects.
 

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This is a very good trade for the Broncos... All things considered.

Kyle Orton is a Josh McDanials type of guy... I heard "experts" on NFL radio this afternoon claiming the Broncos NEEDED to trade both #12 AND #18 to move up to Get Sanchez.. No way that happends..

If Sanchez falls to them at 12.. maybe, but Orton, while not a Franchise QB, is more than adequate to be the Broncos starting QB in 2009...

What no one is mentioning is NEXT year Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow, and more than likely one or two more will be coming out... I really believe the Broncos will more than likely wait and get a QB later...

Use the picks this year on D, (Rey Malauga at #12, Aaron Maybin at #18)... and the Broncos will be a better TEAM going forward...

And I don't buy the whole "This makes the Bears SuperBowl Contenders"... They have no recievers, an OL who is highlighted by a 34 yearold OT that has missed 25 games the last 3 years, and an aging Defense, that CLEARLY lost a step last year... Just my opinion, but the 2010 pick will be in the top 15
 

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Eh, that QB depth chart doesn't do a darn thing for me. If I were a Denver fan, I wouldn't be very happy right now.
Most people I've talked to (I live in Denver) ARE happy. They like the value they got, and are rid of what they thought would be a cancerous lockerroom situation.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying Ortimms (orton/simms) is going to light the world on fire, but I think the'll be good enough to keep the offense in the top-half of the league and the draft picks should help the Broncos rebuild that swiss cheese they call a defense. They've taken from the their strength (the offense) to help them with their achilles heel (the defense).
 

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And I don't buy the whole "This makes the Bears SuperBowl Contenders"... They have ...an OL who is highlighted by a 34 yearold OT that has missed 25 games the last 3 years,
That OL is really pretty good. The Bears have a good running game and still have a good defense. I agree that Cutler's addition isn't going to make stars out of those WRs, but it IS going to make that team better.

...It will be interesting to see Hester run as fast as he can and Cutler to throw it as far as he can. I'll bet they try that at least once a game.
 

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Most people I've talked to (I live in Denver) ARE happy. They like the value they got, and are rid of what they thought would be a cancerous lockerroom situation.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying Ortimms (orton/simms) is going to light the world on fire, but I think the'll be good enough to keep the offense in the top-half of the league and the draft picks should help the Broncos rebuild that swiss cheese they call a defense. They've taken from the their strength (the offense) to help them with their achilles heel (the defense).

I grew up a HUGE Bronco fan, My father actually use to work for the organization, and I have to say.. I am very happy with it all things considered... they could have done a WHOLE lot worse... and I couldn't agree more with you, you are certainly taking away from the offense and taking a step back, but overall, the Broncos with be a better TEAM in 2010 assuming they don't screw up the Draft...
 
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That OL is really pretty good. The Bears have a good running game and still have a good defense. I agree that Cutler's addition isn't going to make stars out of those WRs, but it IS going to make that team better.

...It will be interesting to see Hester run as fast as he can and Cutler to throw it as far as he can. I'll bet they try that at least once a game.

That defense has been living off of reputation for a while now. This signing makes them much better, but I am not sure how much better.
 

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What was Denver thinking!? They have a young probowl QB that they took at 11 and they try to trade him for a QB that had one solid season with a super bowl supporting cast. Cutler could have handled it better but that is just ridiculous on Denvers part. Two first rounders for a probowl qb that has his entire career ahead of him!? No brainer.
 

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Bears had to do this. Their search for a Qb is worse than our search for a running game over the past 20 years. It's alot, but it's a solid roll of the dice for the bears. Is their search over? Well as pitiful as their Qb's have been, maybe yes.

Is it a year too late for the bears? We'll see.

We saw how Joe flacco revived the Ravens, another team that is good-great defensively year in and year out, who couldn't find a Qb. A team whose defense was also said to maybe be a little past its peak.

But honestly what would 2 first round picks bring the Bears that would place them in such a better position to win unless one of those picks was a homerun QB.

Looks like the Chargers will roll to the division title next year imo.

It doesn't make the Cardinals job easier to repeat as NFC champions, but something just feels right about this trade. Feels good for the NFL to have things balanced out right. I mean that as it's a shame sometimes when a team that is really good at a particular aspect, but always seems to be at a disadvantage because they lack something big. Like the Suns without a center, always being a high scoring team, but never wins the title. It just seems like a waste some of the time.

So I have to say this is a trade the Bears had to roll the dice on. With everything invested, with only a few more years left (potentially) of having that defense, with a 'in-his-prime' Urlacher, you might as well go for it. They should be fun to watch this year.
 

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My brother's a huge Bears' fan, and he's ecstatic. He said that Erik Kramer was the best Bears QB of his lifetime before now. I had a tough time arguing. It will take a while to truly evaluate this trade, but I think both sides should be happy.

The Bears haven't had a star QB since Sid Luckman retired in 1950.

If for no other reason... this is reason enough to make this trade.
 

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So I have to say this is a trade the Bears had to roll the dice on. With everything invested, with only a few more years left (potentially) of having that defense, with a 'in-his-prime' Urlacher, you might as well go for it. They should be fun to watch this year.
I completely agree that the Bears had to roll the dice and IMO hit a home run with this deal. They've already got Forte and Olsen who are solid if not really good already. Hester is perfect for stretching the field and even if, and that's a big "if" at this point, they don't add another WR Brandon Lloyd could break out with a real QB throwing him the ball.

Something else to consider is what did the Bears really give up? Look at their first round picks the last few years:
2008: Chris Williams
2007: Greg Olsen
2006: No pick
2005: Cedrick Benson
2004: Tommie Harris
2003: Michael Haynes, Rex Grossman

Over the last 4 years they're only 2nd to the Eagles in team wins with that less than stellar(and no pick) 1st round picks. I think two first rounders for a proven QB that's only 25 is a great move by the Bears.
 

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You're letting emotions cloud your judgment and his diabetes doesn't affect his play.

No.

I didn't say that his diabetes affect his play now. I believe that there is a good chance that it will in the future. Plus, he has proven to be a primadonna. He'll fit right in with Chicago.
 

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No.

I didn't say that his diabetes affect his play now. I believe that there is a good chance that it will in the future. Plus, he has proven to be a primadonna. He'll fit right in with Chicago.

Do you have MD at the end of your name? ;)
 

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