Breaston wide open and dufus throws it behind him

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There is lots to bag on Anderson for -- but to pick this pass as an example of awful QB play is beyond ridiculous


Nope.

It is a terrible throw by an NFL quarterback. It's worse than overthrowing a guy on a deep route, because it's not a hard throw to make for 99% of NFL quarterbacks, and all the starting NFL QBs save one.

Just because a guy "could" have made the catch does not trump the fact that it was a horrid throw on an extremely important down, and it was thrown behind a guy running a slant with momentum to the left, forcing him to have to twist and turn to "drop" the catch. I expect a little bit more from my quarterback...in high school.
 
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Nope.

It is a terrible throw by an NFL quarterback. It's worse than overthrowing a guy on a deep route, because it's not a hard throw to make for 99% of NFL quarterbacks, and all the starting NFL QBs save one.

Just because a guy "could" have made the catch does not trump the fact that it was a horrid throw on an extremely important down, and it was thrown behind a guy running a slant with momentum to the left, forcing him to have to twist and turn to "drop" the catch. I expect a little bit more from my quarterback...in high school.

He put the throw on the wrs' body. Breaston never broke stride. The throw was well within "acceptable".

I think people are confusing "Anderson is really inaccurate" with "Anderson was inaccurate on that throw". there is a difference.

In the attribution of fault on that play: 95% Breaston / 5% Anderson

If the above is the standard: "a WR should never have to adjust on a crossing route, even a little" --is a standard no QB in the league could meet.
 

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He put the throw on the wrs' body. Breaston never broke stride. The throw was well within "acceptable".

I think people are confusing "Anderson is really inaccurate" with "Anderson was inaccurate on that throw". there is a difference.

In the attribution of fault on that play: 95% Breaston / 5% Anderson

If the above is the standard: "a WR should never have to adjust on a crossing route, even a little" --is a standard no QB in the league could meet.

Breaston never broke stride, but yet he turned his body parallel with his running legs, to the point where you see both his numbers in that image, in order to try and catch a ball that is thrown to his right side as he's running to the left. That is not "on the WR's body." What the screencaps don't show is the motion of the play.

I don't think my posts in any way suggest "a WR should never have to adjust on a crossing route, even a little" as you say. But they also shouldn't have to contort their body in order to make a catch on a crossing route.

In the attribution of fault on that play: 50% Breaston / 50% Anderson. It is an issue with me however because it isn't a one time thing on Anderson. He throws it with terrible placement more often than not. In fact, it's not the first time he's made a similar bad throw on the crossing route, behind the player. He did it in the Rams game, I believe and I was upset then too. He does it almost every time he throws to a RB. The dude seems to lack the understanding of momentum and direction of a player's route...be it timing or not thinking players are as fast as they are or just flat out sucking, whatever the reason, he just can't make that throw very well. Hell, I don't care if he misses the throw in front of Breaston, by the way...that's excusable IMO, but constantly throwing behind recievers and forcing them to adjust is not ok, ever. And that's absolutely NOT the definition of "hitting him in stride."

Anderson was terribly inaccurate ON THAT THROW. Breaston still could have made the catch, but if that is your argument for one of Scud's accurate passes, then we are in more trouble than I think and your expectations for quarterback play are very low.
 

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Breaston never broke stride, but yet he turned his body parallel with his running legs, to the point where you see both his numbers in that image, in order to try and catch a ball that is thrown to his right side as he's running to the left. That is not "on the WR's body." What the screencaps don't show is the motion of the play.

I don't think my posts in any way suggest "a WR should never have to adjust on a crossing route, even a little" as you say. But they also shouldn't have to contort their body in order to make a catch on a crossing route.

In the attribution of fault on that play: 50% Breaston / 50% Anderson. It is an issue with me however because it isn't a one time thing on Anderson. He throws it with terrible placement more often than not. In fact, it's not the first time he's made a similar bad throw on the crossing route, behind the player. He did it in the Rams game, I believe and I was upset then too. He doe it almost every time he throws to a RB. The dude seems to lack the understanding of momentum and direction of a player's route...be it timing or not thinking players are as fast as they are or just flat out sucking, whatever the reason, he just can't make that throw very well. Hell, I don't care if he misses the throw in front of Breaston,
by the way...that's excusable IMO, but constantly throwing behind recievers and forcing them to adjust is not ok, ever. And that's absolutely NOT the definition of "hitting him in stride."

Anderson was terribly inaccurate ON THAT THROW. Breaston still could have made the catch, but if that is your argument for one of Scud's accurate passes, then we are in more trouble than I think and your expectations for quarterback play are very low.

Who is this SCUD you speak of?
 

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Anderson was terribly inaccurate ON THAT THROW. Breaston still could have made the catch, but if that is your argument for one of Scud's accurate passes, then we are in more trouble than I think and your expectations for quarterback play are very low.

Theres no arguement that DA has had many bad throws but his receivers need to help him and I thought there were several catchable balls in this game that the receiver just didn't make.

I come down on the side of Breaston has to make that catch. It was an acceptable throw and he should have caught it.

I have noticed watching him in person that with DAs height and arm length the ball seems to come out at a funny angle. There were times when seeing the throw I thought that it would be far off the mark and it ended up on the money.

Kind of like Randy Johnson with that wide arc that fools batters. DA fooled me a couple of times and receivers may be having trouble adjusting to that wider arc compared with the much shorter more compact stroke of Kurt Warner.
 

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Think what you like about DA but Breaston should have made this catch. That's why receivers get paid. The ball is not always on the money.

You know, that's what I thought up to this game and was giving him the benefit of the doubt. But when you keep seeing it again, and again, and again ... behind him, too in front, too low, too high. C'mon ....
 

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