Breaston wide open and dufus throws it behind him

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That ball was tipped at the line by Seymor, I think.
 

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Very catchable is a better term. Its on both of them.

No, not VERY catchable. He could have got it, sure. But when you are going one direction, and a ball is thrown fast, behind you forcing you to adjust against your momentum, that is never "VERY" anything, much less VERY catchable.

The fact that B adjusted, and got his hands on it makes it catchable...but he never should have had to adjust like that if a merely competent QB was throwing to him. Instead, he's got to deal with Scud Anderson who throws too hard, to high, and too off for balls to be "very catchable" most of the time. Dude wouldn't be firing missles at a 50% rate if they were very catchable...and that pass was a prime example of Scud's passes. Away from momentum of the player and where the play is developing.

However, if he had been coming from the other side, the placement of that ball would have been spectacular, and would have led to great YAC. Maybe Scud can be reprogrammed to "flip" the firing of his missles...all those behind and high passes will be in front and in stride. Quick, get our smartest scientists on this!
 

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No, not VERY catchable. He could have got it, sure. But when you are going one direction, and a ball is thrown fast, behind you forcing you to adjust against your momentum, that is never "VERY" anything, much less VERY catchable.

The fact that B adjusted, and got his hands on it makes it catchable...but he never should have had to adjust like that if a merely competent QB was throwing to him. Instead, he's got to deal with Scud Anderson who throws too hard, to high, and too off for balls to be "very catchable" most of the time. Dude wouldn't be firing missles at a 50% rate if they were very catchable...and that pass was a prime example of Scud's passes. Away from momentum of the player and where the play is developing.

However, if he had been coming from the other side, the placement of that ball would have been spectacular, and would have led to great YAC. Maybe Scud can be reprogrammed to "flip" the firing of his missles...all those behind and high passes will be in front and in stride. Quick, get our smartest scientists on this!


I suggest publishing fake team flight schedules.

No scientist needed then.

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Never said he shouldn't throw the ball better. But they were both equally culpable on that play. It wasnt so far behind him to make it uncatchable. Not even close.
I HATE Anderson...wish he was GONE, but if it wasn't equally culpable, the blame leans slightly more towards Breaston. He should have caught it, no question. Not the greatest throw, but it definitely should have been caught.
 

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I HATE Anderson...wish he was GONE, but if it wasn't equally culpable, the blame leans slightly more towards Breaston. He should have caught it, no question. Not the greatest throw, but it definitely should have been caught.

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Have you guy's noticed how DA has turned Larry Fitzgerald into just an average WR in this league. 2 Catches today. Heck Q had 3 TD's today. Larry you should have backed Matt not cave into the old Bidwill Cheapness as you have this season. You are now reaping in all the rewards if you can now call them that.

All-Pro to now All Smooh...!!!
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Yeah, very catchable.

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Breaston is going to the left (right in this angle)...Anderson throws it BEHIND him. It is a third down play, 5 yards to go. Breaston has a step on his guy. Two steps, really. Convert and you can basically salt out the game. You are at midfield. And you throw it BEHIND HIM. So that he has to contort his body just to make the catch. In a spot where if he can't bring it in, it might pop up for a pick. AT MIDFIELD.

There is SO much wrong with that throw from a QB perspective that I can't even half defend it. Breaston bears no blame on that. A college QB could put the ball in front of him out of that break...going to the left side of the field with nobody in front of him.

I watched this play many times over...the ball did NOT look deflected..sorry, but I'm not taking Cross' word for it. Did not move from the spiral. Breaston was going to have HUGE YAC on that, at least 20-30 yards. NOBODY was there. A good throw gives us a first down and way more. We milk clock...kick a FG and win without having to have a fat kicker miss a chippie.

Defending this throw is ridiculous, IMO. It is the precise reason why we are struggling to beat crappy teams like the Rams and the Raiders, and are getting manhandled by good teams like the Falcons. And it isn't one throw...it's THE throw that Scud makes, 9 times out of 10. Oh sure, the 10th one is nice, but the first 9 will kill you.
 

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Yeah, very catchable.

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Breaston is going to the left (right in this angle)...Anderson throws it BEHIND him. It is a third down play, 5 yards to go. Breaston has a step on his guy. Two steps, really. Convert and you can basically salt out the game. You are at midfield. And you throw it BEHIND HIM. So that he has to contort his body just to make the catch. In a spot where if he can't bring it in, it might pop up for a pick. AT MIDFIELD.

There is SO much wrong with that throw from a QB perspective that I can't even half defend it. Breaston bears no blame on that. A college QB could put the ball in front of him out of that break...going to the left side of the field with nobody in front of him.

I watched this play many times over...the ball did NOT look deflected..sorry, but I'm not taking Cross' word for it. Did not move from the spiral. Breaston was going to have HUGE YAC on that, at least 20-30 yards. NOBODY was there. A good throw gives us a first down and way more. We milk clock...kick a FG and win without having to have a fat kicker miss a chippie.

Defending this throw is ridiculous, IMO. It is the precise reason why we are struggling to beat crappy teams like the Rams and the Raiders, and are getting manhandled by good teams like the Falcons. And it isn't one throw...it's THE throw that Scud makes, 9 times out of 10. Oh sure, the 10th one is nice, but the first 9 will kill you.
Yup, that throw and many of his throws are just flat out awful...

I don't understand how he can be so consistently inaccurate and it seems he is usually under throwing it, he should release the ball about a 1/2 sec before he normally throws it.

I just dont understand Whis when he says the team has to adjust the routes to fit DA's style.

Exactly what kind of route would that be? He is not good at any route...
 

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Yeah, very catchable.

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Breaston is going to the left (right in this angle)...Anderson throws it BEHIND him. It is a third down play, 5 yards to go. Breaston has a step on his guy. Two steps, really. Convert and you can basically salt out the game. You are at midfield. And you throw it BEHIND HIM. So that he has to contort his body just to make the catch. In a spot where if he can't bring it in, it might pop up for a pick. AT MIDFIELD.

There is SO much wrong with that throw from a QB perspective that I can't even half defend it. Breaston bears no blame on that. A college QB could put the ball in front of him out of that break...going to the left side of the field with nobody in front of him.

I watched this play many times over...the ball did NOT look deflected..sorry, but I'm not taking Cross' word for it. Did not move from the spiral. Breaston was going to have HUGE YAC on that, at least 20-30 yards. NOBODY was there. A good throw gives us a first down and way more. We milk clock...kick a FG and win without having to have a fat kicker miss a chippie.

Defending this throw is ridiculous, IMO. It is the precise reason why we are struggling to beat crappy teams like the Rams and the Raiders, and are getting manhandled by good teams like the Falcons. And it isn't one throw...it's THE throw that Scud makes, 9 times out of 10. Oh sure, the 10th one is nice, but the first 9 will kill you.


Your picture doesnt show the whole story. Here is the first picture right about when the ball hit him.
 

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Yeah, very catchable.

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Breaston is going to the left (right in this angle)...Anderson throws it BEHIND him. It is a third down play, 5 yards to go. Breaston has a step on his guy. Two steps, really. Convert and you can basically salt out the game. You are at midfield. And you throw it BEHIND HIM. So that he has to contort his body just to make the catch. In a spot where if he can't bring it in, it might pop up for a pick. AT MIDFIELD.

There is SO much wrong with that throw from a QB perspective that I can't even half defend it. Breaston bears no blame on that. A college QB could put the ball in front of him out of that break...going to the left side of the field with nobody in front of him.

I watched this play many times over...the ball did NOT look deflected..sorry, but I'm not taking Cross' word for it. Did not move from the spiral. Breaston was going to have HUGE YAC on that, at least 20-30 yards. NOBODY was there. A good throw gives us a first down and way more. We milk clock...kick a FG and win without having to have a fat kicker miss a chippie.

Defending this throw is ridiculous, IMO. It is the precise reason why we are struggling to beat crappy teams like the Rams and the Raiders, and are getting manhandled by good teams like the Falcons. And it isn't one throw...it's THE throw that Scud makes, 9 times out of 10. Oh sure, the 10th one is nice, but the first 9 will kill you.

Here is the 2nd one when the ball starts to bounce out of his chest a few frames before your pic.
 

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Yeah, very catchable.

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Breaston is going to the left (right in this angle)...Anderson throws it BEHIND him. It is a third down play, 5 yards to go. Breaston has a step on his guy. Two steps, really. Convert and you can basically salt out the game. You are at midfield. And you throw it BEHIND HIM. So that he has to contort his body just to make the catch. In a spot where if he can't bring it in, it might pop up for a pick. AT MIDFIELD.

There is SO much wrong with that throw from a QB perspective that I can't even half defend it. Breaston bears no blame on that. A college QB could put the ball in front of him out of that break...going to the left side of the field with nobody in front of him.

I watched this play many times over...the ball did NOT look deflected..sorry, but I'm not taking Cross' word for it. Did not move from the spiral. Breaston was going to have HUGE YAC on that, at least 20-30 yards. NOBODY was there. A good throw gives us a first down and way more. We milk clock...kick a FG and win without having to have a fat kicker miss a chippie.

Defending this throw is ridiculous, IMO. It is the precise reason why we are struggling to beat crappy teams like the Rams and the Raiders, and are getting manhandled by good teams like the Falcons. And it isn't one throw...it's THE throw that Scud makes, 9 times out of 10. Oh sure, the 10th one is nice, but the first 9 will kill you.

And another a frame or so before yours. These show the ball still hit him in the chest area and not as far to teh outside as you one pic makes it seem. It was certainly a catchable ball and should have been caught.
 

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Yeah Shane, every single one of those you know what you see? A full view of the 1 and the 5. A full twist of his torso. You also see his knees, both pointing DIRECTLY at the sidelines. As are his shoulders. Knees and shoulders parallel dude...and the ball BEHIND him. Bad news. BAD NEWS. But you term that as "very catchable??"

Stand up. Put your own body in this position. Knee up, running, back FULLY turned with arms behind you. Catch a ball.

Then wonder why in the ef the starting QB of your NFL franchise can't put the mothereffing ball in front of you where NOBODY is, in the direction you are running, where you can catch in stride and run for twenty yards at least.

Please bro. That pass is freaking terrible. Your pictures do nothing but show that it to be terrible.

Unless you have some magic frame where the ball is in front of Steve, and you only see the edge of the 5, I don't know why the hell you took the time to post some screen caps.
 

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Yeah Shane, every single one of those you know what you see? A full view of the 1 and the 5. A full twist of his torso. You also see his knees, both pointing DIRECTLY at the sidelines. As are his shoulders. Knees and shoulders parallel dude...and the ball BEHIND him. Bad news. BAD NEWS. But you term that as "very catchable??"

Stand up. Put your own body in this position. Knee up, running, back FULLY turned with arms behind you. Catch a ball.

Then wonder why in the ef the starting QB of your NFL franchise can't put the mothereffing ball in front of you where NOBODY is, in the direction you are running, where you can catch in stride and run for twenty yards at least.

Please bro. That pass is freaking terrible. Your pictures do nothing but show that it to be terrible.

Unless you have some magic frame where the ball is in front of Steve, and you only see the edge of the 5, I don't know why the hell you took the time to post some screen caps.

Again nobody is defending the pass. IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER! But it was in a place that Stevie should have still caught it. Its as simple as that. No ifs ands or buts about it.

BTW I would have caught it too :)
 

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You would not have caught that Shane! NO WAY! Damn it..I want to hire Scud Anderson to throw that pass to you.

Saying that pass could have been better is like saying the Bernie Madoff investors could have found a better place for their money.

By alleviating ANY guilt from Scud on that pass is absolutely defending it, bro. It was unacceptable from an NFL QB. Could Breaston have caught it? Yes. He should have. Because I expect mothereffing greatness. Q would have caught it. Larry would have. Or so we think...but so far, not many people are catching the bullcrap that Scud is tossing their way. I will NOT defend that pass. I've seen Steve, Larry, Q catch some ridiculous passes, but they were at least in the zip code. That was not.

Shane, the guy looks like he is about to go into a yoga pose. That's one thing, but the fact he's running a quick slant, and is going hard left with NOBODY in front of him, the placement of that ball is simply bush league. I've said a college QB could hit that throw..well a top H.S. QB will hit that throw 8 of 10 times. This is a freaking NFL starter. One of 31 guys that run a team. He can't make that throw. He can't make a screen pass. He can't hit our top 3 in the league WR half the time. I refuse to give him the bennie of the doubt on that terrible pass.

And no, you absolutely would not have caught that Scud!
 

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You would not have caught that Shane! NO WAY! Damn it..I want to hire Scud Anderson to throw that pass to you.

Saying that pass could have been better is like saying the Bernie Madoff investors could have found a better place for their money.

By alleviating ANY guilt from Scud on that pass is absolutely defending it, bro. It was unacceptable from an NFL QB. Could Breaston have caught it? Yes. He should have. Because I expect mothereffing greatness. Q would have caught it. Larry would have. Or so we think...but so far, not many people are catching the bullcrap that Scud is tossing their way. I will NOT defend that pass. I've seen Steve, Larry, Q catch some ridiculous passes, but they were at least in the zip code. That was not.

Shane, the guy looks like he is about to go into a yoga pose. That's one thing, but the fact he's running a quick slant, and is going hard left with NOBODY in front of him, the placement of that ball is simply bush league. I've said a college QB could hit that throw..well a top H.S. QB will hit that throw 8 of 10 times. This is a freaking NFL starter. One of 31 guys that run a team. He can't make that throw. He can't make a screen pass. He can't hit our top 3 in the league WR half the time. I refuse to give him the bennie of the doubt on that terrible pass.

And no, you absolutely would not have caught that Scud!


I love you like a bro man. But you gotta give me some credit for my athleticism and skillz. I sooo would have caught that damn ball.

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BTW i tried to take a picture of the other ball Breaston should have caught on the sidelines in the 2nd quarter where he sat there and grabbed his head in disgust.. But my damn TIVO bar gets in the way. :bang:
 

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Well, you dropped some lbs so maybe you also installed a swivel hip too. I will give you the bennie.

ONLY because Q dominated today.
 

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No, not VERY catchable. He could have got it, sure. But when you are going one direction, and a ball is thrown fast, behind you forcing you to adjust against your momentum, that is never "VERY" anything, much less VERY catchable.
That can still be "VERY" bad and "VERY" ugly ;)
 

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Your picture doesnt show the whole story. Here is the first picture right about when the ball hit him.

There is lots to bag on Anderson for -- but to pick this pass as an example of awful QB play is beyond ridiculous
 

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At the game, my first reaction was to cuss Anderson. Which is becoming my reaction to almost every incomplete pass. But, when they showed the replay, i said, 'Damn, Breaston should've had that one!"
 

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