Bruce Arians' Coachspeak

[Southpaw]

Hiring Ron Turner as your OC is a great way to kill a QB, Tampa Bay. He is terrible.

Ummmmmmmm.......... Ron Turner is the HC of FIU. The team that was just blasted by Louisville.

 

[Mulli]

Ummmmmmmm.......... Ron Turner is the HC of FIU. The team that was just blasted by Louisville.

Oops.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/04/bucs-tab-ron-turner-as-josh-freemans-position-coach/

 

[Cheesebeef]

Agreed about cutting scho and keeping RW when we arent using him but hindsight is 20/20.

As far as bowles, ill reserve judgement until the end of the year while installing scheme and etc. Also hard to beat on him with the safeties he has and powers not playing well like ever.

k...true...but then who's to blame for the pathetic safety play and CB play opposite PP. Do we lay that blame at Arians feet or Keim?

Bowles was whiz #2 behind horton when horton was hired.

Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but Bowles was really his number 4 behind LaBeau, Butler, then Horton. And to be honest, with the way Wiz picked coordinators before Horton with Clancy and Billy Davis, looks like Wiz was more of a blind squirrel finding a nut with Horton. Thus, the above doesn't do much for my faith in him.

A lot of people lamented the hiring of the inexperienced horton and it worked out well but not until near end of year one.

this is true, but the big difference here is that Horton took an atrocious defense, with no off-season and in 8 games turned them into a very good unti. Bowles on the other hand has taken a very good unit and with a full off-season has turned them into a pretty atrocious unit. I hope he can turn it around, but I've never really seen anything from him in the past, whether it was brief stints as a DC where he's done that, nor has he ever had a dominating unit like Horton had crafted as a assistant coach like he did at Pittsburg.

Anyway, good comments, I agree but I also want to give them time before I am willing to pull out a pitchfork.

yeah...I hope to be proven wrong, but in watching the replay of last week's game it was galling to see how little adjustments were made on defense. stuff that announcers and fans alike were screaming for before the end of the first quarter that were seemingly never made.

hopefully Washington coming back and a couple more weeks under the system right the ship. but I'm pretty skeptical..obviously!

 

[BigRedRage]

k...true...but then who's to blame for the pathetic safety play and CB play opposite PP. Do we lay that blame at Arians feet or Keim? Or lack of a market. I think it is a wash when comparing to William Gay being there last year. I would rather have toler still but w.e



Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but Bowles was really his number 4 behind LaBeau, Butler, then Horton. And to be honest, with the way Wiz picked coordinators before Horton with Clancy and Billy Davis, looks like Wiz was more of a blind squirrel finding a nut with Horton. Thus, the above doesn't do much for my faith in him. So he was next in line besides a steeler D guy. Same difference Still, the guy has some respect to even be in the lines. Maybe he sucks and I want him gone in a year, maybe not. I am willing to give him time to prove himself.



this is true, but the big difference here is that Horton took an atrocious defense, with no off-season and in 8 games turned them into a very good unti. Bowles on the other hand has taken a very good unit and with a full off-season has turned them into a pretty atrocious unit. I hope he can turn it around, but I've never really seen anything from him in the past, whether it was brief stints as a DC where he's done that, nor has he ever had a dominating unit like Horton had crafted as a assistant coach like he did at Pittsburg. I think the D horton had was more talented then our D now, Adub just got old, rhodes denied our offer, DD is older, CC is not performing. Time hopefully fixes it, if not he can get outa here!



yeah...I hope to be proven wrong, but in watching the replay of last week's game it was galling to see how little adjustments were made on defense. stuff that announcers and fans alike were screaming for before the end of the first quarter that were seemingly never made.

hopefully Washington coming back and a couple more weeks under the system right the ship. but I'm pretty skeptical..obviously!

Hope so. Washington will def help but we need better safeties, bad.

 

[Duckjake]

Sure we have holes, but don't act like Arians & Keim are inheriting the roster from the Jags...cause there was & still talent here.

I agree 100%. The only serious holes in the roster last year not related to injuries were RG and QB.

While our defense was solid our offense was atrocious last year. So what do we have Sunday? 9 of the top 12 players from the offense last year still playing, only QB, RB, and LG have changed, but only 4 of the top 12 on Defense and that's counting Dan Williams.

You gotta love Cardinal football.

 

[DeAnna]

I think he was just saying those thing publicly to instill confidence in his players.

I guess now he realizes it's not just a confidence problem.

 

[Shane]

Yes he keeps sticking foot in mouth and sounding like an idiot. I don't buy the New Jersey angle. The guy has been in the nfl 23 years he knows better!

 

[BigRedRage]

Yes he keeps sticking foot in mouth and sounding like an idiot. I don't buy the New Jersey angle. The guy has been in the nfl 23 years he knows better!

Hes speaking how he feels, the team hasnt adapted it all yet, its cool.

Would you prefer "the system works"

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I don't mind BA, he speaks his mind. But my favorite is Harold Goodwin, who is pretty much a play harder, play better or get replaced coach.

http://bit.ly/goodwin_92613

 

[BigRedRage]

I don't mind BA, he speaks his mind. But my favorite is Harold Goodwin, who is pretty much a play harder, play better or get replaced coach.

http://bit.ly/goodwin_92613

Goodwin sounds good on radio interviews, Bowles sounds like hes sleeping.

 

[Duckjake]

Yes he keeps sticking foot in mouth and sounding like an idiot. I don't buy the New Jersey angle. The guy has been in the nfl 23 years he knows better!

Whis gets bashed for never saying anything and now Arians gets bashed for speaking his mind. It's one of my pet peeves, for lack of a better term. Fans and media complain about coachspeak but if a coach is outspoken they bash him for not keeping his mouth shut.

And God forbid some coach should say something that upsets some overly sensitive nanny from California. He'd lose his job.

 

[BigRedRage]

Whis gets bashed for never saying anything and now Arians gets bashed for speaking his mind. It's one of my pet peeves, for lack of a better term. Fans and media complain about coachspeak but if a coach is outspoken they bash him for not keeping his mouth shut.

And God forbid some coach should say something that upsets some overly sensitive nanny from California. He'd lose his job.

Imagine the stuff Horton would be saying

 

[Mulli]

Goodwin sounds good on radio interviews, Bowles sounds like hes sleeping.

Whis gets bashed for never saying anything and now Arians gets bashed for speaking his mind. It's one of my pet peeves, for lack of a better term. Fans and media complain about coachspeak but if a coach is outspoken they bash him for not keeping his mouth shut.

And God forbid some coach should say something that upsets some overly sensitive nanny from California. He'd lose his job.

Imagine the stuff Horton would be saying

It is so funny. Don't speak your mind, but don't keep saying the same things or say a lot without saying anything. Unless you win, then people don't care.

 

[Duckjake]

Imagine the stuff Horton would be saying

What the )(*(*%*&(^&*%% did you do with all my players?!?!?!?

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/with_the_offense_reeling_cleve.html

Where's the hair?

 

[BigRedRage]

What the )(*(*%*&(^&*%% did you do with all my players?!?!?!?

Or, when he said how NE was tipping plays or etc..

He always said stuff that was like...woah, did he say that?

 

[Chopper0080]

I agree 100%. The only serious holes in the roster last year not related to injuries were RG and QB.

While our defense was solid our offense was atrocious last year. So what do we have Sunday? 9 of the top 12 players from the offense last year still playing, only QB, RB, and LG have changed, but only 4 of the top 12 on Defense and that's counting Dan Williams.

You gotta love Cardinal football.

I agree with this. Arians made his job much more difficult when he chose to throw away a top 15 defense instead of trying to keep that unit together.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I agree with this. Arians made his job much more difficult when he chose to throw away a top 15 defense instead of trying to keep that unit together.

Break what's fixed, try to fix what's broken...one step sideways, one step back.

 

[Darkside]

Well done is better than well said. I've heard a lot about better coaching, more discipline and what a task master and detail oriented coach Arians is. All I see is the same old crap - missed blocks, missed tackles, dropped passes.

Show me, don't tell me.

This is how I feel. The results aren't much different so far than last year. And if you didn't know BA was the coach I think people could easily think Whis was still here. Same issues on offense and a worse defense. Whis had Kolb, BA has Palmer. Cardinals are beating Cardinals.

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[cardpa]

Schofield is really tearing it up in Seattle. In three games he has 3 tackles, 1 assist and one of those tackles being a sack.

Does anyone really think he would be doing any better here? He is a marginal player and these guys are a dime a dozen. Sometimes I feel players who get jettisoned from the team get more love than the players on the team. I have the feeling that if Scho was still in Cardinal red people would be ripping him for lack of production yet now that he is in Seattle he is getting some kudos for having 1 sack. Are we short at OLB, absolutely but I don't think anyone on any team would have anticipated losing 3 OLBs in one week. That many injuries and season ending ones like that are unheard of. No GM or HC on any team would plan for a disaster like that. It's just not practical. That would be akin to losing your two centers in one week in basketball or losing two of your starting pitchers in one week in baseball.

I can understand it with Boldin but I don't hear anyone talking about missing Rolle anymore since he isn't doing much of anything in NY.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Yes he keeps sticking foot in mouth and sounding like an idiot. I don't buy the New Jersey angle. The guy has been in the nfl 23 years he knows better!

How many times you been to NJ ?



Not saying he is not putting his foot in his mouth, just stating where the bravado comes from.

"Knows better" - That term doesn't exist in NJ. Even if we "know better" more times than not it is going to be said anyway.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Hope so. Washington will def help but we need better safeties, bad.

I would imagine if we give more than 3 games for Matheui to develop we will have at least the FS position covered, IMO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Schofield is really tearing it up in Seattle. In three games he has 3 tackles, 1 assist and one of those tackles being a sack.

Does anyone really think he would be doing any better here? He is a marginal player and these guys are a dime a dozen. Sometimes I feel players who get jettisoned from the team get more love than the players on the team. I have the feeling that if Scho was still in Cardinal red people would be ripping him for lack of production yet now that he is in Seattle he is getting some kudos for having 1 sack. Are we short at OLB, absolutely but I don't think anyone on any team would have anticipated losing 3 OLBs in one week. That many injuries and season ending ones like that are unheard of. No GM or HC on any team would plan for a disaster like that. It's just not practical. That would be akin to losing your two centers in one week in basketball or losing two of your starting pitchers in one week in baseball.

keeping only 3 OLB when you run a 3-4 defense simply isn't practical. That's why cutting Scho didn't and doesn't make sense.

 

[Mulli]

keeping only 3 OLB when you run a 3-4 defense simply isn't practical. That's why cutting Scho didn't and doesn't make sense.

Acho, Abraham, Okafor, Alexander. That is four.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Acho, Abraham, Okafor, Alexander. That is four.

Matt Shaughnessy makes 5.

Kenny Rowe on the practice squad and roster at the time makes 6, and Dan Giordano on the PUP makes 7.

 

[Mulli]

Matt Shaughnessy makes 5.

Kenny Rowe on the practice squad and roster at the time makes 6, and Dan Giordano on the PUP makes 7.

Wow, bring back the 4-3.