Buccaneers at Cardinals gameday thread 12-25-22

[Harry]

Watt wore down and no other defensive force.

 

[Zalixar]

Go NFC South winner!

Nah. NFC S is gunna put a terrible team in the playoffs. I want to be entertained.

 

[eastcoastDave]

Recordwide, tied with Denver for 3rd pick. I think we can get 3rd pick, maybe 2nd. Only fear is who’s making the pick. Hope there is a new GM in place, one who knows how to build a team through the draft instead of handing out large contracts to marginal, old guys who can’t stay healthy. We need offensive and defensive linemen, big, aggressive guys who can either open holes or plug them.

 

[Jetstream Green]

no, but it didn’t win it either.

It should have, but our guys cannot execute simple assignments. Don't get me wrong, I want Kingsbury gone along with Joseph, but I do not see what else they could have called in this game to give the team any better chance of winning with the limitations this team obviously has

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

win or lose, you gotta like the effort. That is a very positive thing for the future. We played with basically our 2nd and 3rd string guys, like most of the year. Who do you blame for that? Hard to blame anyone.

Only complaint I have is same I have had in several games. You can't just keep dinking the ball on pass plays. You have to air it out to loosens up the D. How a coach doesn't know that is beyond me. One of the deep passes we threw was completed and the other would have been a TD if the QB would visualized the route and have thrown it to the inside.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Watt wore down and no other defensive force.

I cannot see why Golden is in there. He might know where to go but arriving late makes his knowledge irrelevant and what is Gardeck doing

 

[Hoodhero]

I'm only starting to recover from a vicious viral infection and Kliff still might look more worse for wear them myself. Damn!!!

 

[Jetstream Green]

Dortch and Cooper better be on this team next season

 

[Jetstream Green]

I'm only starting to recover from a vicious viral infection and Kliff still might look more worse for wear them myself. Damn!!!

I am recovering from a crappy flu myself, and unlike Keim I actually prepared with a shot to no avail

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Recordwide, tied with Denver for 3rd pick. I think we can get 3rd pick, maybe 2nd. Only fear is who’s making the pick. Hope there is a new GM in place, one who knows how to build a team through the draft instead of handing out large contracts to marginal, old guys who can’t stay healthy. We need offensive and defensive linemen, big, aggressive guys who can either open holes or plug them.

There are only 3 guys I like with that pick and don't have reservations about, Carter, Ringo, or Skoronski. And we could trade back a few spots and still get Ringo or Skoronski. I would be okay with either of those scenarios. I think Carter would put our D on another level.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Our defense is playing with 5th string corners

They played a hell of a game for who they are

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The pitch was the right call and by no means was that a crazy call. Whether Sorley is not smart enough to not pitch that hard or Ingram cannot catch a simple pitch

The pitch was behind the running back. Many make that play, but catching a back shoulder pitch isn’t easy.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

On that pitch, when RB is running away from the QB, the QB has to lead him. He can't throw the ball to his back shoulder when he is running away from it. That was on the QB.

Borg - exactly

 

[Dback Jon]

Coaching did not lose this game

It didn’t help. Same issues poor client management poor play calling.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Recordwide, tied with Denver for 3rd pick. I think we can get 3rd pick, maybe 2nd. Only fear is who’s making the pick. Hope there is a new GM in place, one who knows how to build a team through the draft instead of handing out large contracts to marginal, old guys who can’t stay healthy. We need offensive and defensive linemen, big, aggressive guys who can either open holes or plug them.

No. Denver won’t win either of last two games.

 

[DVontel]

There are only 3 guys I like with that pick and don't have reservations about, Carter, Ringo, or Skoronski. And we could trade back a few spots and still get Ringo or Skoronski. I would be okay with either of those scenarios. I think Carter would put our D on another level.

Ringo isn’t good. There’s 3-4 CBs better than him in the draft.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It should have, but our guys cannot execute simple assignments. Don't get me wrong, I want Kingsbury gone along with Joseph, but I do not see what else they could have called in this game to give the team any better chance of winning with the limitations this team obviously has

“It should have?”

What plays did you see left on the field? I didn’t see anything obvious.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The pitch was behind the running back. Many make that play, but catching a back shoulder pitch isn’t easy.

I just have certain expectations from professional players on fundamental plays, and just can't curb my perfectionism lol

 

[DVontel]

We’re big Chicago Bears fans next week. A win from them/loss from us, we’ll jump to 3 & they’ll drop to 4 due to their SOS being higher than ours. Pretty much guaranteeing us one of Anderson/Carter.

Just gotta hope Houston doesn’t go another direction & avoids a QB for some reason.

 

[Buckybird]

Coaching coaching coaching!!!

Reason #1 this team lost this game was Klownsbury getting cute & calling a toss play on 3rd & a 1/2yard!!! Especially to a rookie you rarely use. Stupid!!!

Reason #2 they lost was Blowseph who constantly plays soft zones (particularly with the game on the line) for the easiest of completions against the goat who was struggling to complete anything more than 10 yards downfield. Scored 3 of last 4 possessions. Stupid!!!

Coaching matters! Fire both of these inept coaches. Ugh

 

[Jetstream Green]

“It should have?”

What plays did you see left on the field? I didn’t see anything obvious.

Little things like if you are going to throw it up to Hopkins, put it in the field of play so he has a chance. I saw plays where Sorley had people open but as a coach what can you do when he is young and freaking out and you take what Dortch can get you and be glad they are not picks I guess. I would just like to see people make plays. Great catch by Brown but maybe stay in bounds and keep your balance, you are low enough to keep that balance. When the ball is tipped or in your direction, you intercept that pass

 

[Jetstream Green]

Coaching coaching coaching!!!

Reason #1 this team lost this game was Klownsbury getting cute & calling a toss play on 3rd & a 1/2yard!!! Especially to a rookie you rarely use. Stupid!!!

Reason #2 they lost was Blowseph who constantly plays soft zones (particularly with the game on the line) for the easiest of completions against the goat who was struggling to complete anything more than 10 yards downfield. Scored 3 of last 4 possessions. Stupid!!!

Coaching matters! Fire both of these inept coaches. Ugh

I just do not see that as cute for what to me is a basic football play, I see a reverse, a bootleg or a screen as being cute or throwing deep. It is a freaking pitch, I just think a professional football player should be able to execute a simple pitch and the yardage was there

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

we've had so many players hurt, and players shuffling in and out over that last few years, I have no idea who our actual healthy starting 11 on offense and defense are. Do we even have a real starting lineup? When, if ever, did they all play together? I have no clue.

 

[Buckybird]

I just do not see that as cute for what to me is a basic football play, I see a reverse, a bootleg or a screen as being cute or throwing deep. It is a freaking pitch, I just think a professional football player should be able to execute a simple pitch and the yardage was there

Come on Jet a 1/2yard? We know damn well if it was a simple handoff or sneak & we gained nada Klownsbury was going for it anyway. It was a foolish decision. Hand the ball off to you best short yardage proven guy in Conner.

Imo Ingram would’ve got blown up & lost yards anyway.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Come on Jet a 1/2yard? We know damn well if it was a simple handoff or sneak & we gained nada Klownsbury was going for it anyway. It was a foolish decision. Hand the ball off to you best short yardage proven guy in Conner.

Imo Ingram would’ve got blown up & lost yards anyway.

No, he had space, probably would have had about five yards before getting contact. I do agree with you and the soft zone though