Buccaneers at Cardinals gameday thread 12-25-22

[BullheadCardFan]

i feel like Brady got 85% of his passing yards on WR or RB screens. Did any one of those throws go for less than 5 yards? So frustrating to see the Cards routinely throw those for 1 or 2 yards, yet other teams make them work

You would think that if we are running them in practice so often since we run them in games quite a bit that the defense would know how to defend them and read it when they are being run

 

[PACardsFan]

Yeah, MB is the same stupid ass clown that extended both time and Cliff for five years even though the Cardinals finished on a horrendous losing streak. MB is a bigger problem. Until he sells, this team is going nowhere. But since he likes being a big shot, NFL owner or condemned to years of this crap.

Sadly, no one can argue your point. At some point, one would think that consistently promoting from within might not be the answer. Especially when those being promoted were trained by the very people you’re firing. All we can do now is sit back & see what MB does. Knowing the family history, it’s hard to believe that a light will come on.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Here’s how the playoff picture looks heading into Week 17:

CURRENTLY IN
1. Eagles (13-2) One win away from clinching the NFC No. 1 seed.

2. Vikings (12-3) Clinched the NFC North, but would need to win out and have the Eagles lose out to get a first-round bye.

3. 49ers (11-4) Playing the best football in the conference right now.

4. Buccaneers (7-8) Win Sunday and they win the division.

5. Cowboys (11-4) Need to win out and have the Eagles lose out to win the NFC East.

6. Giants (8-6-1) Win on Sunday and they’re a wild card.

7. Commanders (7-7-1) Beat the Browns and Cowboys and they’re in the playoffs.

OUTSIDE LOOKING IN
8. Seahawks (7-8) Own the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Lions.

9. Lions (7-8) Own the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Packers.

10. Packers (7-8) Playing well, but their recent surge may be too little, too late.

11. Panthers (6-9) If they win out, they win the NFC South.

12. Saints (6-9) Need to win out while the Buccaneers lose out to win the NFC South.

NO CHANCE OF GETTING IN
13. Rams (5-10) Mathematically eliminated.

14. Falcons (5-10) Mathematically eliminated.

15. Cardinals (4-11) Mathematically eliminated.

16. Bears (3-12) Mathematically eliminated.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[BritCard]

But Kyler was the problem…

Well yeah. He conveniently didn't mention had he played all 17 games he was on track for a whopping 21 TDs.

 

[Russ Smith]

The weird thing watching that, I missed the first half watching the Warriors game, was how bad Brady looked and how it seems like the WR's were just getting fed up with him. I had Mike Evans on my fantasy team so I was focusing on him, he's been putting up nothing for weeks now and I can see why. Over and over he's blocking on screens, a half dozen times he didn't even bother to run a pattern because he knew the ball was coming out so fast it wouldn't go to him. If you're a downfield threat WR and the QB is afraid to hold the ball because of the OL, you're not getting it.

I don't like Collinsworth but he was dead on we were playing 5 or 6 guys up at the LOS to defend those short passes and it took ages before Brady finally faked out Mathew and completed a long pass over the top. I know his WR's aren't healthy but this is on Brady he's just finally gotten to where it appears he can't make those throws. I mean their OL isn't great but it's not THAT bad, he is really limiting that offense IMO.

If they wind up winning the division I expect they will get blown out.

 

[BritCard]

The weird thing watching that, I missed the first half watching the Warriors game, was how bad Brady looked and how it seems like the WR's were just getting fed up with him. I had Mike Evans on my fantasy team so I was focusing on him, he's been putting up nothing for weeks now and I can see why. Over and over he's blocking on screens, a half dozen times he didn't even bother to run a pattern because he knew the ball was coming out so fast it wouldn't go to him. If you're a downfield threat WR and the QB is afraid to hold the ball because of the OL, you're not getting it.

I don't like Collinsworth but he was dead on we were playing 5 or 6 guys up at the LOS to defend those short passes and it took ages before Brady finally faked out Mathew and completed a long pass over the top. I know his WR's aren't healthy but this is on Brady he's just finally gotten to where it appears he can't make those throws. I mean their OL isn't great but it's not THAT bad, he is really limiting that offense IMO.

If they wind up winning the division I expect they will get blown out.

Brady has been awful. There has been a lot of parallels with Kyler and our O.

Bad QB play. Frustrated WRs. Poor run game. Beat up O line.

 

[gmabel830]

Why don´t these guys listen to me?

Perhaps it was your thread on what inanimate object most reminds you of the Cardinals? Or your thread on what two animals humping most remind you of the Kliff/Kyler relationship?

 

[PJ1]

I cannot see why Golden is in there. He might know where to go but arriving late makes his knowledge irrelevant and what is Gardeck doing

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This was long overdue and they should play even more. If I never see Golden or Gardeck take another snap I would be fine with it. They do nothing.

 

[PJ1]

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Another bad coaching decision. Dortch does nothing but produce.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

With a new inexperienced QB making his first career start & a seldom used rookie RB? A chance to basically clinch the game? Did it work or did it backfire? Nuff said

So what should they do? Just be extremely predictable and only run vanilla stuff to the vets every play? Ingram a professional football player, he should catch that ball and probably does 99/100 times.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Well yeah. He conveniently didn't mention had he played all 17 games he was on track for a whopping 21 TDs.

And you’re conveniently failing to mention that the Mcs would’ve been on track for ZERO had they each played 17 games. This is fun!

 

[Cheesebeef]

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10 combined snaps the last two games… even with Mr. Glass Rondale sitting in civies.

Makes total sense.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Can Thomas looks the part for me more than Myjai. I don’t think he has the size to be an NFL DE

 

[PJ1]

Well yeah. He conveniently didn't mention had he played all 17 games he was on track for a whopping 21 TDs.

Agreed. So KM is better than a third string QB who was a sixth round pick and has been in the league four years without a start till last night. I guess KM has that going for him. Lol

 

[Jetstream Green]

I got you both beat. I have pneumonia and been in hospital most of last week. Think I will be going back since I still can´t get my breath and have little if any oxygen circulated to my extremities. My legs are so weak I can barely take two steps, and then can´t seem to get a breath of air. Each time I start to fall asleep I am not sure I will wake up. I am very curious at this point as to what awaits me on the other side. I am actually anxious to find out. I wonder if I should bring my own utensils?

Hope you heal and get out of that scary funk soon. You are not the Cardinals, you only root for them, you got this

 

[Dback Jon]

A gimmicky QB will never get you where you need to go.

I don’t see him as a gimmicky WB

 

[Dback Jon]

Kyler definitely was a part of the problem.

I think Kyler could be very good with the right coach/personal

 

[Harry]

I'm only starting to recover from a vicious viral infection and Kliff still might look more worse for wear them myself. Damn!!!

Caution: watching Kingsbury can be hazardous to your health!

 

[Harry]

You cannot minimize just how much it pisses MB off that this team cannot win at home. Are they really 1-12 in their last 13 home games? Just wow! That alone is reason to fire someone. Even crappy teams tend to win about half their home games. When your franchise is in a transient area, it’s an absolute must that you win home games.

Bring pissed off is not the same as being an effective owner! I’m certain Dollar Bill spent most of his time pissed off if he had to spend money!

 

[Harry]

Can Thomas looks the part for me more than Myjai. I don’t think he has the size to be an NFL DE

I think starting Sanders on the line may be a mistake. With his speed and agility you want to make it harder to tie him up.

 

[Harry]

So what should they do? Just be extremely predictable and only run vanilla stuff to the vets every play? Ingram a professional football player, he should catch that ball and probably does 99/100 times.

He’s only a professional because the Cards say he is.

 

[football karma]

Can Thomas looks the part for me more than Myjai. I don’t think he has the size to be an NFL DE

i think Thomas has potential to be an every down player, but Sanders is a passing down specialist

one place to take your lumps playing younger players: they both got abused on wide running plays -- too many times jumping inside and doing the blockers work for him

 

[Stout]

I think Kyler could be very good with the right coach/personal

...and big self-improvement. Unless you're talking every position on the offense is solid to great, and deep, he won't be very good until he improves. He has been that bad individually.