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Arizona Cardinals Final Projected 53 Man Roster: Take 3 & Official Prediction Thread

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by cgolden on Aug 27, 2008 11:23 AM MDT in News
With just a couple of days before the big cut down day, what better way to spend the day than taking one last stab at the 53-man roster. In case you missed the first two installments (First and Second), we've been fairly accurate considering we correctly predicted Marcel Shipp getting cut but somehow how Bo Schobel making the roster. This is the last chance though so here goes:
QBs: (3) - Matt Lienart, Kurt Warner, and Brian St. Pierre

No change and I'd still try and keep Morelli for the practice squad.
RBs: (3) - Edgerrin James, JJ Arrington, Tim Hightower
No change on the roster but Chris Vincent was brought back for a reason and he looked really good against the Raiders. If he outperforms Steve Baylark then he'll win the practice squad job.
FBs: (2) - Tim Castille & Terrelle Smith

I feel like a politician flip-flopping on this one but I've finally come around to the idea of keeping both. Not many teams do but Smith is too good of a blocker and Castille is too versatille.
WRs: (5) - Fitz, Q, Early Doucet, Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban
Adding a fullback means that one of these guys has to go so Rector's the odd man out. Lance Long is practice squad material though.
TEs: (3) - Leonard Pope, Ben Patrick, Jermane Tuman
No change again.
OL: (9) - Levi Brown, Deuce Lutui, Al Johnson, Reggie Wells, Mike Gandy, Elton Brown, Lyle Sendlein, Brandon Keith, Elliot Vallejo

Meet Elliot Vallejo. He's stood out with the second team and he's broke into my top 53. He's still practice squad eligible but I'm not sure some other team wouldn't scoop him up.
DT/NT: (2) - Gabe Watson & Alan Branch
No change. Keep in mind that Bryan Robinson is playing more NT right now.
DE: (5) - Darnell Dockett, Antonio Smith, Bryan Robinson, Calais Campbell & Kenny Iwebema
No change and I still think that Keilen Dykes will end up on the practice squad.
OLB: (4) - Chike Okeafor, Bertrand Berry, Clark Haggans & Travis LaBoy
No change here. It's a risk trying to slip Harrington through to the practice squad because he's looked pretty good for a rookie the past two games but there are just too many guys ahead of him. They try to keep him on the practice squad though.
ILB: (5) - Karlos Dansby, Gerald Hayes, Brandon Moore, Matt Stewart & Ali Highsmith
There's a serious log-jam at ILB with Beisel, Stewart, Moore and Highsmith all vying for two or three jobs. In the end, I'm going with 5 spots here and Moore gets the nod because he's versatile enough to play inside and outside. Stewart beats out Beisel because he's younger and has more starting experience. Highsmith is the youngster but I'm not risking trying to slip him through to the practice squad.
CBs: (5) - Roderick Hood, Eric Green, DRC, Ralph Brown & Micheal Adams
The only change is adding Ralph Brown back to the mix and bumping Ware to the safety spot.
FS/SS: (4) - Adrian Wilson, Antrel Rolle, Aaron Francisco & Matt Ware
Ware gets bumped to safety because I think Ralph Brown has outperformed Oliver Celestin. Dennis Keyes has made plays the past two games and he's earned himself a year on the practice squad.
Specialists: (3) - Neil Rackers, Dirk Johnson & Nathan Hodel
No change.

 

[CardinalsFan11]

Pretty solid...I don't think I have a problem with any of the positions.

 

[Shane]

Wow when you look at the CB's and you see Ralph Brown and Michael Adams you really see how terribly thin we are there IMO.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Wow when you look at the CB's and you see Ralph Brown and Michael Adams you really see how terribly thin we are there IMO.

Have to agree with you on this. An injury or 2 and our our CB talent takes a big hit. We definitely could use some quality depth. Hard to believe someone decent will get cut, but you never know.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Have to agree with you on this. An injury or 2 and our our CB talent takes a big hit. We definitely could use some quality depth. Hard to believe someone decent will get cut, but you never know.

Yup. An injury or two and we will likely see Rolle back at CB.

 

[HookemCards]

Ty Law still available??

 

[Garthshort]

What happens if the team keeps Pat Ross as Center insurance?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The guy seems to be having the same questions as the rest of us.

Vallejo
Morey
Highsmith
Beisel
Stewart
Harrington

You only get 3 out of the six.

Highsmith, Harrington & Vallejo are practice squad eligible but all three might not make it through the waiver wire.

What happens if the team keeps Pat Ross as Center insurance?

Now you are talking 2 out of the six.

Sidenote: Didn't the Cardinals play aroud with giving Wells a little time at center......why didn't they continue doing that? It would be nice to have him as an emergency center.

 

[English on tour]

not bad work.

agree on most of those - dont know about FB and also would have gone with Biesel.

 

[Garthshort]

If Wells CAN play center, that would be hugh.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

not bad work.

agree on most of those - dont know about FB and also would have gone with Biesel.

Think about Castille more of a 4th RB....that is the vibe the coaches are giving out per Urban.

 

[Totally_Red]

The guy seems to be having the same questions as the rest of us.

Vallejo
Morey
Highsmith
Beisel
Stewart
Harrington

You only get 3 out of the six.

Highsmith, Harrington & Vallejo are practice squad eligible but all three might not make it through the waiver wire.



Now you are talking 2 out of the six.

Sidenote: Didn't the Cardinals play aroud with giving Wells a little time at center......why didn't they continue doing that? It would be nice to have him as an emergency center.

I take Vallejo and Beisel for sure. If Harrington or Highsmith won't make it to the practice squad, I take them for the third. If both will, I take Morey. I cut Stewart, gambling that if a season-ending injury hits the LBs, he is either still available, or I can elevate Ali or Chris.

 

[cgolden]

Thanks guys. The decision at ILB was the hardest one to make for me. Beisel's a solid backup but I had him a Stewart pretty close so I went with the younger guy. If they only carry one FB though then I could see them carrying all five ILBs, especially considering that Moore can play outside.

 

[CarterAZ]

Thanks guys. The decision at ILB was the hardest one to make for me. Beisel's a solid backup but I had him a Stewart pretty close so I went with the younger guy. If they only carry one FB though then I could see them carrying all five ILBs, especially considering that Moore can play outside.

I can see why… I watched Matt Stewart (#51) a little more closely last night against the Raiders, and I have to say the guy seems to have a nose for the ball… he was in on, or close to a lot of plays, and I hadn’t really noticed up until yesterday when I singled him out.

Beisel for me, is sort of a sentimental favorite though, he came through nicely I thought when not many really expected it... plus, if I’m not mistaken he played through some pain (injury) after he was inserted into the lineup, which is always a soft spot for me.

I think this next paring is the toughest round of cuts I’ve seen around this joint in quite some time. Nice problem to have, but definitely sad too because I’m a big “underdog” guy.

 

[CaptTurbo]

How are we thin at CB? This always perplexes me. We have 3 solid corners. No team can afford to lose their starting 2 corners to injury and not have a serious drop in talent.

Also I think Beisel makes it.

 

[earthsci]

How are we thin at QB? This always perplexes me. We have 3 solid corners. No team can afford to lose their starting 2 corners to injury and not have a serious drop in talent.

Thank you. If Seattle gets an injury or two they are starting Josh Wilson & Kevin Hobbs. For the 49ers its Shawntae Spencer & Donald Strickland. The Broncos go from Bly & Bailey to Domonique Foxworth & Karl Paymah.

Dallas has it good though. If Terrance Newman & Anthony Henry get hurt, they trot out Adam Jones & Mike Jenkins.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'd certainly risk Highsmith to the PS, and keep Beisal.

(I have a hard time imagining a guy going from UDFA (Highsmith) to getting on some team's 53 man roster after this cutdown)

 

[40yearfan]

How are we thin at QB? This always perplexes me. We have 3 solid corners. No team can afford to lose their starting 2 corners to injury and not have a serious drop in talent.

Also I think Beisel makes it.

I'm sure you meant CB swd and I agree with you. I don't know of many teams who have 3 solid CB's much less 4 of them.

 

[bg7brd]

I agree with Canuck that Highsmith probably needs a year on the PS. As far as corners go, Rolle and Ware can both play corner as well.

 

[CardLogic]

I agree with Canuck that Highsmith probably needs a year on the PS.

I don't disagree with that thought, however it has to be weighed against the odds of Highsmith clearing waivers, first-off. I am not so certain he would. And secondly, even if he makes it to the PS, it's possible another team picks him off of the PS at some point during the season when injuries start to mount on their active LB's. All I am saying is it's a risk trying to carry Highsmith on the PS.

Let's see if Highsmith sees much action vs. Denver this week. If he doesn't then it's a good bet that he will be headed to the PS.

 

[joeshmo]

I don't disagree with that thought, however it has to be weighed against the odds of Highsmith clearing waivers, first-off. I am not so certain he would. And secondly, even if he makes it to the PS, it's possible another team picks him off of the PS at some point during the season when injuries start to mount on their active LB's. All I am saying is it's a risk trying to carry Highsmith on the PS.

Let's see if Highsmith sees much action vs. Denver this week. If he doesn't then it's a good bet that he will be headed to the PS.

The odds of a UDFA being selected off of waivers are so high I am not sure it should be to much of an issue. Putting a UDFA no team in the league thought that highly of in the first on their 53 man squad without knowing their system is very bad odds.

Same goes for players being plucked off of their PS. Out of 256 PS players a year on average only 3 to 4 or taken from another teams PS. First reason being the team usual brings back a current street FA that was with them in camp and preseason and knows their system before they bring in one that does not. Second it is sort of an unspoken rule that teams dont cherry pick others PS players, plus teams are afraid that the team they do it to will get back at them and do the same thing to them like the Pats did last year with PS and waiver wire issues. They purposely picked a player up becuase of that.

Not saying it cant happen. But I wouldnt even put $5 on those odds.

 

[bg7brd]

I don't disagree with that thought, however it has to be weighed against the odds of Highsmith clearing waivers, first-off. I am not so certain he would. And secondly, even if he makes it to the PS, it's possible another team picks him off of the PS at some point during the season when injuries start to mount on their active LB's. All I am saying is it's a risk trying to carry Highsmith on the PS.

Let's see if Highsmith sees much action vs. Denver this week. If he doesn't then it's a good bet that he will be headed to the PS.

Crazy Canuck made this point earlier which I agree with and that is ....The odds are very slim that a team would take an undrafted player that gets released and place him on their active roster.

 

[Skkorpion]

Thank you. If Seattle gets an injury or two they are starting Josh Wilson & Kevin Hobbs. For the 49ers its Shawntae Spencer & Donald Strickland. The Broncos go from Bly & Bailey to Domonique Foxworth & Karl Paymah.

Dallas has it good though. If Terrance Newman & Anthony Henry get hurt, they trot out Adam Jones & Mike Jenkins.

I echo you and swd on this. Most teams would be knee deep in excrement if they lost 2 of their top 3 CBs.

Garth suggesting we might keep Pat Ross as a center agrees with Kent Somers' worry that Seindlein might need a backup because his knee is hurt and Al Johnson may not be ready for a while.

Good guesses, cgolden.

Count me aligning with joeschmo that nobody would pick Highsmith off the PS. Carter may be right about LB Stewert.

 

[phillycard]

Someone please tell me how Adams did in the Raiders and Chiefs game. I didn't see enough of either but he stunk up the Saints game somethin' serious.

 

[CardLogic]

In order to be placed on a practice squad the player first has to clear waivers. I know that if the player is named to a practice squad then he must be made one of the 53 active players by the team claiming him.

My question is if a player is picked up from waivers must he be placed on the active roster of the team picking him up? Could he be placed on the aquiring teams PS?