Cam Newton will go in the top 7

[joeshmo]

Cecil should have paid for it. Newton has the physical ability but so do alot of people. I'm more worried if he can spell Cam even if you spot him the C and the M.

Of course he can spell his name. He has to sign over his checks to get them deposited doesnt he.

 

[lobo]

How is a project QB going to help this team next year, or the year afte that ?

short answer: can't
long answer: or the year after the year after that!!

 

[desertdawg]

I said that you can't take anything away from what he did today, I thought I made that clear. I'm not comparing him to Leaf, Russell, or anyone else. I'm just saying these things are pretty stupid and don't give you anything but a false belief.

And since you brought it up there has never been a QB over 6'5" who has been all that good. You can look it up. There was an article in SI earlier this year about the topic and how it would effect Ryan Mallett's draft stock.

Oh and I think Newton will be a bust in the NFL.

I was making a point about folks bringing up somewhat pointless similarities between players that can or have already "busted."
I think your point about there never being a very good QB over 6'5 is a good one. Newton is built a lot different than any other QB I've ever checked out, he's a freak, So I wouldn't hold his height as a red flag. The weight he has to go with it makes him pretty durable and tough to take down in the pocket, unlike Mallet.

 

[PDXChris]

I said that you can't take anything away from what he did today, I thought I made that clear. I'm not comparing him to Leaf, Russell, or anyone else. I'm just saying these things are pretty stupid and don't give you anything but a false belief.

And since you brought it up there has never been a QB over 6'5" who has been all that good. You can look it up. There was an article in SI earlier this year about the topic and how it would effect Ryan Mallett's draft stock.

Oh and I think Newton will be a bust in the NFL.

Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger are both 6'5" and Joe Flacco is 6'6". Close enough.

 

[desertdawg]

Of course he can spell his name. He has to sign over his checks to get them deposited doesnt he.

That's all you got homie? I figured you would be down with a kick ass first round QB not named Leinart.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger are both 6'5" and Joe Flacco is 6'6". Close enough.

One inch is huge. Think about all the QBs that have slipped because they are an inch too small. Flacco is going against the grain right now but the vast majority of history has shown that being 6'6" or taller is a major knock against you in the NFL.

 

[Southpaw]

Cecil should have paid for it. Newton has the physical ability but so do alot of people. I'm more worried if he can spell Cam even if you spot him the C and the M.

If he can't spell his name he can always get someone else to write it for him. He's done that before.

 

[azsportsfan01]

I said that you can't take anything away from what he did today, I thought I made that clear. I'm not comparing him to Leaf, Russell, or anyone else. I'm just saying these things are pretty stupid and don't give you anything but a false belief.

And since you brought it up there has never been a QB over 6'5" who has been all that good. You can look it up. There was an article in SI earlier this year about the topic and how it would effect Ryan Mallett's draft stock.

Oh and I think Newton will be a bust in the NFL.

I may have had the wrong magazine. I found this from ESPN the Mag.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/preview10/insider/news/story?id=5497084

If you don't get insider here is the major takeaway.

In 90 NFL seasons, only 13 quarterbacks taller than 6-foot-5 have ever played a down. And none of them has ever started 75 games or thrown for 100 TDs. If there were a Hall of Fame devoted to tall quarterbacks, the first-ballot selections would be 6-foot-6 passers Derek Anderson, Scott Mitchell and Marc Wilson.

 

[desertdawg]

I may have had the wrong magazine. I found this from ESPN the Mag.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/preview10/insider/news/story?id=5497084

If you don't get insider here is the major takeaway.

LOL, you remember I brought up 6'6 as a joke, and your running away with it. Cam Newton is not a skinny rail, he carries it well, dude is thick and ripped. His delivery is fast, faster than the 6'3-4 guys in the draft. This is fun though, he weighs 250 lbs, what do you got on that? Russell was a fat ass and you already brought him up so...

 

[joeshmo]

That's all you got homie? I figured you would be down with a kick ass first round QB not named Leinart.

Hey am not against the kid. I am so-so. You dont throw 10+ yards an attempt leading the nation in that category at a 70% completion percentage without having some skill. But we have seen a lot a great college QB's do similar stuff only to fail in the NFL. He without a doubt has the skill, I am just not so sure he has the mental make-up and other intangibles that seperate the superstar college QB's that make the transition and the ones that do not. Which means I want to hear what happens in his interview sessions with the white board in front of him, that IMO will be where he will make his money and draft status.

 

[desertdawg]

Hey am not against the kid. I am so-so. You dont throw 10+ yards an attempt leading the nation at a 70% completion percentage without having some skill. But we have seen a lot a great college QB's do similar stuff only to fail in the NFL. He without a doubt has the skill, I am just not so sure he has the mental make-up and other intangibles that seperate the superstar college QB's that make the transition and the ones that do not. Which means I want to hear what happens in his interview sessions with the white board in front of him, that IMO will be where he will make his money and draft status.

True that, a lot more microscopes to go under.

 

[Southpaw]

Hey am not against the kid. I am so-so. You dont throw 10+ yards an attempt leading the nation in that category at a 70% completion percentage without having some skill. But we have seen a lot a great college QB's do similar stuff only to fail in the NFL. He without a doubt has the skill, I am just not so sure he has the mental make-up and other intangibles that seperate the superstar college QB's that make the transition and the ones that do not. Which means I want to hear what happens in his interview sessions with the white board in front of him, that IMO will be where he will make his money and draft status.

What will Jon Gruden say. I remember how he ripped Jimmy Claussen a new one last year, during the skull sessions. One year later Gruden was right. Newton probably won't show for that scene. I am really looking forward to the Green Room at the draft.

 

[red desert]

I absolutely love Cam Newton.

Dude will redefine how the position is played. Well, maybe that expectation is a bit high, but he is still going to be a flat out stud.

Thing is, I just don't see the Cards pulling the trigger. Organization is just not forward thinking enough.

My choice for pick at number 5:

1. Cam Newton
2. Patrick Peterson
3. Von Miller
4. A. J. Green

I still think he has a legitimate shot at going number one. I really do.

 

[red desert]

How is a project QB going to help this team next year, or the year afte that ?

He would come in and immediately become our best "3rd and short" weapon. Not to mention our wildcat guy. That alone puts him in the game 6 to 8 times.

I'd draft him first overall. No question in my mind. Especially since neither Fairly or Bowers are that elite, can't miss, prospect that perhaps Suh was thought to be. Obviously, if and how he performs at the combine, pro day workouts etc... will ultimately tell the tale.

But looking at the tape... it's a no brainer IMO. Of course by tape I simply mean the couple of games I watched on the guy. Don't want to overstate that.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Cecil should have paid for it. Newton has the physical ability but so do alot of people. I'm more worried if he can spell Cam even if you spot him the C and the M.

.... as some said about 4-time Super Bowl Champion and member of the Hall of Fame... Terry Bradshaw.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

These guys look pretty similar to me:
Cam Newton
2010 NCAA Auburn Tigers 21 14 185 280 66.1 2854 30 7 10.7 2.5 203.9 10.2 182.0

Akili Smith
1998 NCAA Oregon Ducks 23 11 11 215 371 58.0 3763 30 7 8.1 1.9 342.1 10.1 166.1

the stat key is age strts cmp att % yds td in td% int% ypg ypa rating

 

[Stout]

Not a project QB, he can start and produce late in his first year. Year 2 no doubt. We still gotta see what Skelton has in the tank anyways. (I still like me some Skeletor, more so than Orton, McNaab, and the gang)
Again, there isn't any QBOF in free agency, I think we should go with the best QB in the draft like most of the teams you see in the play-offs did. Newton will be a star, does it have to be in game 1 or his first season.

Horton will be overhauling the D next year, our O-line isn't the best for old or fragile FAs to throw behind.
Both Skelton and Newton have the size and skill set. It's a great strategy for a QBOF. Start Skelton, give Newton all the #2 reps. See which one of these guys we one to ride with for a decade or so.

Bunk. Sheer and utter bubkus (sp?). We have absolutely no idea how quickly, if at all, he can come in and be an effective starter. The odds are certainly against him starting sooner rather than later, too. Not many QBs from non-pro style offenses step in right away, or even in their first season, especially not QBs that look at their primary option and then run.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

I'm just not sold on Newton as a top 10 pick.

However...

If the league ends up with a new CBA that has a rookie pay scale similar to the NBA's, then spending a top 10 pick on a talent such as his won't kill the Cards budget long term. If that were the case, I'd be all for it.

Short of that, I'd like to see Von Miller drafted at #5.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Bunk. Sheer and utter bubkus (sp?). We have absolutely no idea how quickly, if at all, he can come in and be an effective starter. The odds are certainly against him starting sooner rather than later, too. Not many QBs from non-pro style offenses step in right away, or even in their first season, especially not QBs that look at their primary option and then run.

Like Tebow, right?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Like Tebow, right?

Tebow has proved nothing.

 

[Broseph]

if he does well at the combine, people are going to be drooling over this dude. i would be pretty excited to see him as a cardinal to be honest, but i think we should get a vet in here as well like bulger. if cam continues to impress people, there is a really good chance he will be there at #5 for the cards to take.

 

[SuperSpck]

Great college QB, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he'd be able to win at the pro level. He isn't used to making multiple reads, his footwork would be a major hurdle (he reminds me over Plummer in this way, "backyard funtimes").

He's had enough off-field issues where you have to wonder where his head will be at when he gets Paid.

Skills don't equal success.

 

[desertdawg]

Great college QB, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he'd be able to win at the pro level. He isn't used to making multiple reads, his footwork would be a major hurdle (he reminds me over Plummer in this way, "backyard funtimes").

He's had enough off-field issues where you have to wonder where his head will be at when he gets Paid.

Skills don't equal success.

He has shown that he "off the field" issues don't affect his play. His footwork is better than Gabberts. He is the best QB available in the draft..
If going undefeated or winning a championship or being able to make all the throws or being able to scramble or being a true team leader or making good reads in important games or....maybe you just aint watching.
He is the best QB available in the draft. Don't people want a first round QB that can take a team deep in the playoffs?

Blah blah...I just don't like him doesn't fly.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Blah blah...I just don't like him doesn't fly.

In your opinion, perhaps.

 

[desertdawg]

In your opinion, perhaps.

Yamon.
The guy won every game including beating the University of Nike in the championship game.
He is a winner. Won games from behind, won games with his feet, won games with his arm too.
The part I really dig about his game is the third down plays he makes. He can zip the nice pass, he can tuck it and run it, he can fake doing either but he usually keeps the drive alive. Especially in the big games where other QBs in this draft have failed.
Just my opinion.