Can we all agree now Josh is NOT the QB of the future?

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Big props to Josh.

I've never understood the haters.

All Josh has needed was a chance. He was the QB in all of our wins last season, yet still got benched for Shaun King who was just awful.

Hopefully, Josh gets to keep playing this season.
 
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Even on that drive, Josh runs into a sack when there's no real pressure, and then he throws the ball when he's a good 4 yards beyond the LOS. As Theismann said you have to have SOME football sense to play this game.

he's having a huge statistical night but when you see how many plays were there that he's missed it's mind boggling.
 

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Russ Smith said:
It was started in the first quarter down 14-0 with Josh having missed one open receiver after another because he can't see the field Rats.

Sf's defense is awful, Josh is finally taking advantage of it and playing quite well although they luckily just dropped the 3rd INT of the game.
Russ, I know your not a hater....just crappy timing for this IMO.
 

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Duckjake said:
Way to go Rats. You jinxed him.
I know your superstitous Duck....but the D will win it for us...mark it down!
 

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Russ Smith said:
Even on that drive, Josh runs into a sack when there's no real pressure, and then he throws the ball when he's a good 4 yards beyond the LOS. As Theismann said you have to have SOME football sense to play this game.

he's having a huge statistical night but when you see how many plays were there that he's missed it's mind boggling.

Right...and we're playing the 9ers might I add.
 

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Even on that drive, Josh runs into a sack when there's no real pressure, and then he throws the ball when he's a good 4 yards beyond the LOS. As Theismann said you have to have SOME football sense to play this game.

he's having a huge statistical night but when you see how many plays were there that he's missed it's mind boggling.
Whatever....dude. Whatever
 

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Russ Smith said:
Even on that drive, Josh runs into a sack when there's no real pressure, and then he throws the ball when he's a good 4 yards beyond the LOS. As Theismann said you have to have SOME football sense to play this game.

he's having a huge statistical night but when you see how many plays were there that he's missed it's mind boggling.

It's his first week this season as a starter. You can expect a little rust. :shrug:

If he was the starter from day one and getting all the snaps, maybe I could understand your negativity toward him. Nah, I probably still wouldn't understand it. :D
 

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Not that Shipp's fumble was his fault but he had 2 guys wide open for TD's that he didn't see on that drive and if he finds either one of them, we never get to Shipp fumbling.

This is unreal, 2 TD's by the worst defense in the NFL, and the first quarter isn't even over yet.

Green might want to check with ESPN at the half if he can get his old job back after this debacle.

Oh well, fact is we can still win the game as we all saw we have WR's running WIDE open all over the field.
 

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Rats said:
I know your superstitous Duck....but the D will win it for us...mark it down!

:D Have you noticed that whenever a guy has been dissed on the board tonight he starts playing great.

I'm not getting too excited tonight though. It's just the Cards quarterly win.
 

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Duckjake said:
:D Have you noticed that whenever a guy has been dissed on the board tonight he starts playing great.

I'm not getting too excited tonight though. It's just the Cards quarterly win.
Im feelin ya Duck ....gotta get a few in a row to get to excited!!!
 

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jstadvl said:
******** thread I've read in a long time. Yea, he's missed a few receicers. The TD was as much his as fitz's. He's moved the team well.
He's looking to folow the playbook, just like Arrington.
If we win this game, and believe me McCowns mobility and arm will be two of the reaons, you should quit your stinkin' bitchin and get behind him.
If Warner fumbles it's the O line not Mccown.
Warner hasn't thrown anything near with the zip McCown has so far this year, but he's got a better arm.
He can't score in the red zone, but it was Fitz not McCown, who BTFW has done this repeatedly with these receivers because he knows they can go up, ala Moss.
Give it a rest.
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As I said, we had guys wide open all night, if not for the bad start this game would have been 45-0 or something similar.

As theismann said, 383 yards, 2 TD's could have had a few more but he settled down. I'll give him props, he DID settle down,but the first quarter he was just awful with wide open players.

What's even worse was Rattay, Josh did his damage against a team with it's top 2 CB's out the whole game and it's 3rd out the whole 2nd half, Rattay faced us with our top CB out(Rolle) and our 2nd and 3rd got hurt during the game, and Rattay still couldn't move the ball.
 

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LoyaltyisaCurse said:


The anti Josh thing pisses me off.

I'm all for upgrading to a better QB but heck, the kid plays his heart out and he does not suck.

He's not as good as I'd like but wth do people want?

Seriously tonight he did good against a team he should have done good against and Carolina will be much tougher but they are going to need all that confidence and more to get to 2-3.

It's a start.
 

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Is Josh the QB of the future? Again no idea

However he did look good against a bad team. He lead us to twice as many TDs as Warner had in the first 3 games (and the secondaries he went against weren't exactly special either).

Whether he is the QB of the future shouldn't be a question now (lets wait for the offseason for that one). What the question should be is "Is he the QB of the present?" and with this game that answer is a resounding "hell yes"

Leave the kid alone for now
 

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The question is will Josh be benched before Carolina like last year? Kind of ironic if McCown has a good game against the Panthers...
 

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As I said, we had guys wide open all night, if not for the bad start this game would have been 45-0 or something similar.

As theismann said, 383 yards, 2 TD's could have had a few more but he settled down. I'll give him props, he DID settle down,but the first quarter he was just awful with wide open players.

What's even worse was Rattay, Josh did his damage against a team with it's top 2 CB's out the whole game and it's 3rd out the whole 2nd half, Rattay faced us with our top CB out(Rolle) and our 2nd and 3rd got hurt during the game, and Rattay still couldn't move the ball.

Josh did well in the one category that I am concerned with, and that is the win/loss column. I would not be for this normally, but if he leads us to a win against Carolina; back to the bench Mr. Warner.
 

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Russ Smith said:
As I said, we had guys wide open all night, if not for the bad start this game would have been 45-0 or something similar.

As theismann said, 383 yards, 2 TD's could have had a few more but he settled down. I'll give him props, he DID settle down,but the first quarter he was just awful with wide open players.

What's even worse was Rattay, Josh did his damage against a team with it's top 2 CB's out the whole game and it's 3rd out the whole 2nd half, Rattay faced us with our top CB out(Rolle) and our 2nd and 3rd got hurt during the game, and Rattay still couldn't move the ball.

Ummmmmm, weren't OUR top 3 CB's out, too. And yet Rattey didn't have the game Josh did....
 
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imaCafan said:
Ummmmmm, weren't OUR top 3 CB's out, too. And yet Rattey didn't have the game Josh did....

Read what I wrote, I specifically mentioned Rattay couldn't move the ball against us with our 3 CB's out.

If you want to disagree that's fine but at least read what you're disagreeing with.
 

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Russ Smith said:
Read what I wrote, I specifically mentioned Rattay couldn't move the ball against us with our 3 CB's out.

If you want to disagree that's fine but at least read what you're disagreeing with.

Man, I read your whole post and missed that, somehow. Man, am I getting old...... :confused:
 

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Codeofhammurabi said:
Josh did well in the one category that I am concerned with, and that is the win/loss column. I would not be for this normally, but if he leads us to a win against Carolina; back to the bench Mr. Warner.

He is now 8-9 as a starter...
 

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LoyaltyisaCurse said:
He is now 8-9 as a starter...


At some point you start looking stupid trying to sell other alternatives to the team.

Now after the season is over it's all up for grabs again, but until he lays an egg there shouldn't be too much debate about it this season.

It just makes sense, he can run away from the jailbreaks a few times a game Warner just gets crushed every time by them.

All those anti Josh posters take heart, he most likely will screw up and your day is comming, just not today.
 

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Josh played a great 2.5 quarters of football. Really great stuff from him!

If he can play like that all the time, we're in business.
 
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