Cardinals announce they have released Hopkins - Signed with Titans

[Snakester]

He was the last star player we had. With him the offense had a chance to perform well. I have to say this is the first time I’ve ever seen this team go all out to be bad. They are the Joe Biden of pro football teams. 0-17 here we come.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

They are the Joe Biden of pro football teams.

So, winners? I'm down with that.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[THESMEL]

Team first ho-is not

 

[WisconsinCard]

The old “we don’t know” argument.

This is just silly Aren't you speculating on what you don't know? Pot meet kettle. Please share with us what you know.

I mean I clearly stated you could be right, but you fire back with snarky rebuttal. I don't get it

 

[Yuma]

We traded a 2nd for how many games? Less than two years? Awesome.

Part of that was Hopkins fault.

 

[schutd]

Monti wasn’t forced to cut bait. He just didn’t accept the true market value of Hop

I dont understand this viewpoint. He's been on the market for months. If no teams are able to take on his salary, its not overvaluing him. Its bad timing. Im sure before they released him, theyd have taken anything. but no one is in position to absorb his salary. Or am I missing something? There was no market not because he has no value. There was no market because he was too expensive. I dont think Id have absorbed his salary just to get a mid round pick in return, So in the end, what other options were there? Certainly not having him on the team. He burned that bridge. Hell, one could argue he lowered his own value.

 

[pemory09]

Perhaps this thread should have been titled “Cards announce they are officially tanking this season.”

 

[kerouac9]

So in the end, what other options were there?

Today? None.

In March, plenty (probably).

 

[BirdGangThing]

He was the last star player we had. With him the offense had a chance to perform well. I have to say this is the first time I’ve ever seen this team go all out to be bad. They are the Joe Biden of pro football teams. 0-17 here we come.

lol except for Joe Biden won

 

[Chris_Sanders]

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Ol Chuck and Suck ready to tell everyone about what's being a good fan

 

[CardsFan88]

What is this from?

Spoiler: Shhhhh

4chan QAnon
But then I altered it

It's an M drop

 

[TigToad]

Y’all still fans of this trash organization? Lol

I swear it’s comical how bad the cardinals are run. So it’s that bad between Hopkins and the Cardinals you couldn’t just keep him.

If you’re no longer a fan, why post on a fan forum?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Part of that was Hopkins fault.

Yup, at least 8 games. 6 with the suspension and 2 when he just said, Nah I'm good.

 

[AZ Native]

Yup, at least 8 games. 6 with the suspension and 2 when he just said, Nah I'm good.

Did you hear him say that? I heard they were already shopping him at that point and they wanted him healthy. The season was already lost.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Did you hear him say that? I heard they were already shopping him at that point and they wanted him healthy. The season was already lost.

One of the reports in this thread claim he chose to sit out the last 2 games.

 

[AZ Native]

One of the reports in this thread claim he chose to sit out the last 2 games.

Just saying that I heard otherwise. Who knows what is true? But it makes sense.

 

[schutd]

Today? None.

In March, plenty (probably).

This is fair.

 

[QuebecCard]

If nothing changes by Tuesday that means the Cardinals may have played chicken with the NFL’s other teams and lost (I know that sounds ornithologically wrong). If they haven’t changed the rules once Hopkins played a game the Cards were on the hook for his $9 mil salary. The option was to hold fast, hoping for a WR injury that would lead to a significant draft choice trade. It’s true it was a gamble. Bidwill would have to man up and risk the $9 mil, if he has it. If the injury happened the prorated salary would have moved to the acquiring team. The Cards would have been even stronger in 2024. Worst case scenario, Murray would have had a fair shot at success with a solid receiving corps.

???

$19m salary in 2023!

 

[QuebecCard]

cap hit was $19mm -- 2023 salary was $9mm, with the $20mm diff being the spread out of the bonus paid to Hop two years ago

$19m was his salary in 2023, with a total Cap hit of $30m.

 

[QuebecCard]

Today? None.

In March, plenty (probably).

Could you give us a few?

 

[82CardsGrad]

2-15 with him, 2-15 without him

I think we would’ve won more than 2 games with him, but likely less than 5…
Without him, this team will struggle to win 2, which… puts us squarely in a possible position to win the Caleb Williams race? Hmmmmm…

 

[BullheadCardFan]

DraftKings has Bills as the favorites to land DeAndre Hopkins

Bills quarterback Josh Allen could use some help.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[football karma]

DeAndre Hopkins's financial expectations, representation could be an impediment to a deal

Receiver DeAndre Hopkins is free to sign with anyone.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

give Hopkins credit: he knew that the best way to max his comp is to become an unrestricted free agent.

He had two non guaranteed salary years left on his contract and didnt want to be a one-year rental for some contending team

His $19mm 2023 salary is (semi) affordable -- and an acquiring team could give up a 3rd, get a year out of him by converting a giant chunk of the salary to a bonus, reduce his 2023 cap hit to ~$10mm, and then cut him next year. At that point, Hop would be a 32 year old WR with much lower demand.

He made clear to any team acquiring him in a trade that they would have to meet his contract expectations --

His position was "dont trade for me unless you are ready to pay me what I (think) am worth" -- which effectively killed his trade value.

so -- become a UFA and gets the best deal he can. We will see if that is better than the $10mm or so he was scheduled to get in 2023.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

DeAndre Hopkins's financial expectations, representation could be an impediment to a deal

Receiver DeAndre Hopkins is free to sign with anyone.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

give Hopkins credit: he knew that the best way to max his comp is to become an unrestricted free agent.

He had two non guaranteed salary years left on his contract and didnt want to be a one-year rental for some contending team

His $10mm 2023 salary is VERY affordable -- and an acquiring team could give up a 3rd, get a year out of him at a cheap cap hit of $10mm, and then cut him next year. At that point, Hop would be a 32 year old WR with much lower demand.

He made clear to any team acquiring him in a trade that they would have to meet his contract expectations --

His position was "dont trade for me unless you are ready to pay me what I (think) am worth" -- which effectively killed his trade value.

so -- become a UFA and gets the best deal he can. We will see if that is better than the $10mm or so he was scheduled to get in 2023.

The only issue for him will be that history also shows when players become UFA due to $$ issues and what THEY think they are worth, often they end up taking a lower 1 year deal, to try and reset their value...Don't need to look any farther than the Honey Badger. He has as much of a chance of not getting paid, as he does getting the $$ he thinks he's worth.