Cardinals at Bears gameday thread 12-24-23

[Dayman]

His QB was playing better in week 4 than his QB is playing now.

He is being outproduced by Rondale Moore in the same time period. No matter who is at QB, that's not good, even considering the injury.

 

[Chopper0080]

He is being outproduced by Rondale Moore in the same time period. No matter who is at QB, that's not good, even considering the injury.

Tough being a WR who uses his route running to gain separation while having a QB who can't read coverage and throw on time to his WRs out of their breaks.

 

[WisconsinCard]

It’s the new NFL. The mindset is go for 2 and the xp wins the game if you score again. If you don’t get it, you can make it up by getting the 2pt next time to tie. I don’t like it but that’s what it is now.

When Vrabel did it either last week or the week before and Tennessee won the game. I believe they said the analytics say it's 54% to make a two point conversion.

So the thought process is if you make it on the first try if/when you score next time you're kicking for the win. If you don't make the first one the odds are you'll make it the second time and go to overtime.

 

[Harry]

Can’t we still bungle that by somehow pulling out a miracle win on the last game of the season if the Skins lose out?

Yes

 

[jf-08]

We are #2 because we are 3-12. NE is 3-11 so their win percentage is better for now. We still need a win by them?

We need them to win because their strength of schedule is worse than ours and that is a tie breaker

 

[Arz101]

Can someone give a quick recap of Murray performance from today? I completely missed the game due to a family thing. TIA

 

[jf-08]

We need them to win because their strength of schedule is worse than ours and that is a tie breaker

Or a tie.

 

[Dback Jon]

Tough being a WR who uses his route running to gain separation while having a QB who can't read coverage and throw on time to his WRs out of their breaks.

Let me know when we get one of those

 

[Dayman]

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[kerouac9]

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Interesting insights from Mervin Bustanut

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Rondale could have prime Peyton Manning as his QB and he’d still suck.

Tough being a WR who uses his route running to gain separation while having a QB who can't read coverage and throw on time to his WRs out of their breaks.

 

[BritCard]

Yet people in here still expect this already untalented defense to perform week to week.

Makes me chuckle watching people criticise our run D with 3rd string D line street signing and 2nd and 3rd string linebackers.

 

[BritCard]

OMG I’m shocked Brit is done with Kyler lol dude you been hating for years…lol. Damn you Kyler for having no WRs to throw too m, just damn you! And your play calling omg it’s the worstest ever… Brit could play QB better in his humble opinion… lol

Nah. I said earlier this year. New regime, new attitude. Time to give Kyler a clean slate. I was looking forward to him coming back and even said people shouldn't expect too much of him after injury.

But he's sucked balls. He's as bad as last year. He's off time all the time. He's inaccurate. His vision is awful. He can't throw a pass that isn't to a guy 3 yards open or at a pinch throw it up for a guy in single coverage and hope they make a play.

He can't throw timing routes at all. He can't throw guys open with back shoulder throws or a ball only they can catch. There was an early pass to McBride where the pass should have been in front of McBride but was on his head where Johnson could break it up.

And the WR excuse is tired. I saw Wilson open a bunch but Kyler can't throw on time.

Look at what Zappe did last night with the ass he as at WR and tell me it's not Kyler.

He's ass.

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[BritCard]

Can someone give a quick recap of Murray performance from today? I completely missed the game due to a family thing. TIA

Mitch Trubisky

 

[juza76]

Nah. I said earlier this year. New regime, new attitude. Time to give Kyler a clean slate. I was looking forward to him coming back and even said people shouldn't expect too much of him after injury.

But he's sucked balls. He's as bad as last year. He's off time all the time. He's inaccurate. His vision is awful. He can't throw a pass that isn't to a guy 3 yards open or at a pinch throw it up for a guy in single coverage and hope they make a play.

He can't throw timing routes at all. He can't throw guys open with back shoulder throws or a ball only they can catch. There was an early pass to McBride where the pass should have been in front of McBride but was on his head where Johnson could break it up.

And the WR excuse is tired. I saw Wilson open a bunch but Kyler can't throw on time.

Look at what Zappe did last night with the ass he as at WR and tell me it's not Kyler.

He's ass.

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Are still a better group of receivers

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Can someone give a quick recap of Murray performance from today? I completely missed the game due to a family thing. TIA

Stats look better than he played

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Arizona Passing

Kyler Murray
team

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	SACKS	QBR	RTG
24/38	230	6.1	2	0	2-17	19.9	97.5
24/38	213	6.1	2	0	2-17	--	97.5

 

[wagon mound 464]

Due to a family dinner, I missed the entire second half but the first half was enough to see ahead, and know the outcome.

Week after week its a good thing that they have Prater's foot to put up pts on the scoreboard.

 

[gimpy]

I have come to the conclusion (hate to say this- but it hasn't changed) that K1 is not a very football smart quarterback.

 

[slanidrac16]

I have come to the conclusion (hate to say this- but it hasn't changed) that K1 is not a very football smart quarterback.

Consensus seems to be moving in that direction. He appears to be a sandlot qb. He appears jittery in the pocket and even looks to his outlet receiver to late.

 

[ajcardfan]

Makes me chuckle watching people criticise our run D with 3rd string D line street signing and 2nd and 3rd string linebackers.

Hey, Monti and the coaches put them out there right? They don't deserve no criticism because they are XFL players.

 

[DeAnna]

A couple years ago Murray was really good throwing the ball to the sidelines and now like 90% of the balls he throws in that area are flat out uncatchable... I don't get what happened to his mechanics.

Someone said (can't remember who) that coaches are trying to fix his footwork but it has messed with his accuracy.

 

[phillycard]

good lord, Dortch shouldnt even be a number 2

LOL! You say "even" like there was some argument for him to be a 1??!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Makes me chuckle watching people criticise our run D with 3rd string D line street signing and 2nd and 3rd string linebackers.

It’s like injuries and depth aren’t realities in your world.

 

[Phrazbit]

It’s like injuries and depth aren’t realities in your world.

When many of the starters are replacement level I am not sure if injuries matter.

 

[kerouac9]

When many of the starters are replacement level I am not sure if injuries matter.

If the starters are replacement level it shouldn’t be difficult to have or find equivalent starters/backups. It’s not like we lost Chris Jones and Aaron Donald.

It should be troubling that our front office has been stymied in their search for a replacement for Leki Fotu.