Cardinals' Camp: 3 Burning Questions

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Bruce Arians always talks about the players' and the team's aspirations to get better each and every day. The preparation that BA and his staff put into each practice and every game has made the Cardinals the most competitive team on a day-to-day and week-to-week that the organization has ever had.

In the past, even during the good Warner years, one could count on a handful of no-show performances from the Cardinals---which is why pundits like Cris Collinsworth would make statements like the Cardinals are "the worst playoff team ever." In the past, it seemed as if the Cardinals could get blown out at any time. It made the fans leery and the pundits skeptical.

In the 33 games that Bruce Arians has been head coach, the Cardinals are 21-12 and the only games that the Cardinals have lost by more than 12 points were Week 3 (2013) at the Saints, Week 4 (2014) at the Broncos, Week 12 (2014) at the Seahawks and Week 16 (2014) home versus the Seahawks---and note that starting QB Carson Palmer did not play in the latter three losses.

Arians' Cardinals seem to play in a bunch of close games. This is why he teaches and practices "situational football" as much and as effectively as he does.

However, this year, can the Cardinals actually start to pull away from teams earlier?

One thing about Kurt Warner was that he was not only win-hungry, he was points-hungry and stats-hungry, to boot. He loved to put the pedal to the metal and keep it there---and, boy oh boy, could he.

Arians has tended to get very conservative with the lead and in close games, he has relied on his defense to carpe the diem as much as his offense.

That's good because up until now it has worked far more than it has failed.

But---now that the team is more talented and experienced in his system---will Arians become more consistently aggressive?

Arians and his offense need to start blowing some teams out. Not only for the sake of ascending to the next level---but for the necessary sake of being able to give some of the starters some much-needed rest in the 4th quarters of some of the games. Let's face it----the 16 game season is a grueling marathon and last year the Cardinals as a team hit a wall after the 14th game.

In thinking about how the Cardinals can takes those necessary steps to get to become one of the NFL's most feared and elite teams, there are three burning questions to pose:

1---(offensive personnel): Would the Cardinals be more explosive on offense if they ran the spread offense early and then go to the double TE offense once they have established comfortable leads? Here's the crux---the Cardinals' offense is loaded at the skill positions and it is now the fastest, quickest offense they have had since the days of Mel Gray and Terry Metcalf. The Cardinals' TE situation is not a strength---nor do the Cardinals have the big, hammer RB that a run between the tackles in 2 TE sets requires.

The key here is Andre Ellington and having a similar RB behind him now in David Johnson. They are "bounce off the edge" talents. The problem is---with 2 TE sets---the edge is widened and thus takes longer to bounce. In a spread offense, the edge is closer and much more accessible.


BA has said that he plans to pound the ball this year more with Robert Hughes. But---can anyone see Hughes getting the bulk of the carries in the first half of games?

Hughes might be a good situational hammer RB late in games when the team is trying to pound the ball and run out the clock. Save him and the steady diet of 2 TE sets for those situations and short-yardage situations.

Most importantly---what you do not want to do versus the Seahawks and Rams is allow them to load the box. Look at what the Patriots did to the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. They made SS Cam Chancellor try to play in space, because they spread the defense out. And when the Seahawks were playing tight, sticky coverage on the slots, the Patriots exploited their coverage by passing out of the backfield to their RBs. The Cardinals have the personnel to do exactly this---if they spread the Seahawks out.

When the Cardinals tried to run 2 TE sets versus the Seahawks, Cam Chancellor was able to play in the box which allowed him and Bobby Wagner to have field days. Same thing in the playoffs versus Carolina---the Cardinals played right into the strength of their prolific defense by allowing them to load the box with Thomas Davis and Luke Kuechly, both of whom put on tackling clinics.

Getting the quartet of Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Floyd, John Brown, Jaron Brown ( J.J. Nelson, Brittan Golden and Jaxson Shipley) out in the spread with Andre Ellington or David Johnson in the backfield is very apt to cause defensive matchup nightmares. There are times BA could put Ellington or Johnson in the slot---or motion them out of the backfield---to get them the ball quicker in space---which would pose quite a challenge for any defense.

BA has been grooming the offense in the hurry-up this off-season. This offense is being groomed to play faster than it ever has.

2---(defensive personnel): This year, can the Cardinals finally get good pressure on the QB from a 4 man rush, and thus not have to rely on blitz pressures as much?

What a luxury it is in the NFL to be able to pressure the QB with a 4 man rush. Todd Bowles blitzed more than any other DC in the NFL the past two seasons. But---that was as much out of necessity, as anything else. Why? Bowles did not have the personnel to be able to count on a 4 man rush.

As one looks at the Cardinals' options this year for their 4 man rush on passing situations, the most promising looking quartet might be LaMarr Woodley, Cory Redding, Calais Campbell and Alex Okafor. The best second team 4 man rush may well be Kareem Martin, Frostee Rucker, Rodney Gunter and Markus Golden---although Matt Shaughnessy, Josh Mauro and Shaq Riddick might emerge in pass rushing roles.

Clearly the Cardinals have a number of options---but can they find a fearsome foursome?

Dwight Freeney---who had over 40 QB hurries last year as a situational rusher---is still unsigned. If the Cardinals could add him and his explosiveness to the mix---imagine what that could do for the pass rush.

By the end of the year last year the opponents seemed to know exactly where the Cardinals' blitzes were coming from, and thus, even when selling out on blitzes, the QB pressure was not strong enough. James Bettcher is going to have to disguise the blitzes better---but it sure would be nice for him to have a good 4 man rush so that he wouldn't have to lead the NFL in blitzes, like his predecessor.

Plus---when you can pressure with 4---it makes it easier and safer to keep a "spy" on the likes of Wilson and Kaepernick.

3---(special teams personnel): Can Patrick Peterson, in key situations, step back up to be the elite, game-changing punt returner he was as a rookie? The Cardinals' return game has floundered the past two years, despite the fact that they have one of the top three punt returners on the planet. What a bonus it would be for the Cardinals and their Super Bowl hopes to be able to turn to Peterson when they need a home run. The pressure a rejuvenated Peterson would put on the opponents would be immense.
 
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Mitch I think the Cards offense will be dynamic the next few seasons!!!

The Oline appears to be much better in both the running game & passing game...I bet nobody realized the Cards were the best at sacks allowed in the NFC last season:) Those days of Hart, Gray, Metcalf were great because of the Oline & as you say their team speed, which allowed Coryell to call up those bombs to #85, Ike Harris & Earl Thomas.

You're right about the defense I'd luv to see less blitzes out of necessity with more pressure from the front 4. But relying on 2 rooks may be a stretch or maybe not, because Bettcher may just say sic 'em with those youngsters? No mention of Okafor? I think Woodley might have a rejuvenation if the new DC shows he can run the show as a 1st time coordinator at any level. That my biggest concern going for the Lombardi.

Maybe this is the Cardiac Cards of the 70's where putting up huge points from the passing game, though this defense does have much more talent defensively than that team.

Let's roll :newcards:
 

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Mitch-----I believe that we WILL see the spread offense much more than the 2 TE sets this year, especially early in games. While our newly revamped O-line is not yet elite, it IS very solid and very deep. Using our speed receivers in a fresh rotation, would be wonderfully augmented by our two top running backs, Ellington and Johnson, who are both not only talented runners, but excellent receivers out of the back field. This would provide for great mobility and receiving options, but would also be great in allowing for RB targets without tipping off the defense because of personnel changes in our offensive looks. With our O-line now looking to be more run effective, it would also lend itself to having a nice rotation of running backs without tipping anything off to the defense. As you said, the crunch time, late in games, could be augmented by using the 2 TE sets and Hughes at RB. I believe that BA will be taking full advantage of our speed packages early and often. I seriously doubt that he would tend to follow his predecessor, and use a part of his game plan early even though it was seriously flawed with suspect key players being injury prone, as our TE unit looks to be yet again this year. BA has been very good at putting the best players in position to make plays, and healthy ones are always better than oft injured ones.

I too wonder about our defense this year. There are a lot of new moving parts to this unit, and many are not yet proven to be solidly healthy. The depth is good in most instances, but keeping key players healthy will be tough in my estimation. That is not to denigrate from the performance of Steve Keim in any way, as I believe that he has done a remarkable job despite not having ideal selections to choose from in his endeavors. Then too, there is the new DC to consider, as he too is an unknown although his pedigree appears to be very solid. The return to health of play makers like Patrick Peterson and Tyran Matthieu should help tremendously.
 

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Mitch-----I believe that we WILL see the spread offense much more than the 2 TE sets this year, especially early in games. While our newly revamped O-line is not yet elite, it IS very solid and very deep. Using our speed receivers in a fresh rotation, would be wonderfully augmented by our two top running backs, Ellington and Johnson, who are both not only talented runners, but excellent receivers out of the back field. This would provide for great mobility and receiving options, but would also be great in allowing for RB targets without tipping off the defense because of personnel changes in our offensive looks. With our O-line now looking to be more run effective, it would also lend itself to having a nice rotation of running backs without tipping anything off to the defense. As you said, the crunch time, late in games, could be augmented by using the 2 TE sets and Hughes at RB. I believe that BA will be taking full advantage of our speed packages early and often. I seriously doubt that he would tend to follow his predecessor, and use a part of his game plan early even though it was seriously flawed with suspect key players being injury prone, as our TE unit looks to be yet again this year. BA has been very good at putting the best players in position to make plays, and healthy ones are always better than oft injured ones.

I too wonder about our defense this year. There are a lot of new moving parts to this unit, and many are not yet proven to be solidly healthy. The depth is good in most instances, but keeping key players healthy will be tough in my estimation. That is not to denigrate from the performance of Steve Keim in any way, as I believe that he has done a remarkable job despite not having ideal selections to choose from in his endeavors. Then too, there is the new DC to consider, as he too is an unknown although his pedigree appears to be very solid. The return to health of play makers like Patrick Peterson and Tyran Matthieu should help tremendously.

Excellent assessment, Catfish. Well stated.
 

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Everything I have read has suggested that the Cards weren't too keen on PP returning punts and that they specifically want him to focus on the CB position and finally become the consistently dominant CB he was initially projected to be. Now that he seems to have the health issues in check, there appears to be a good deal of optimism regarding his ability to fulfill the immense promise his physical gifts provide...
 

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Everything I have read has suggested that the Cards weren't too keen on PP returning punts and that they specifically want him to focus on the CB position and finally become the consistently dominant CB he was initially projected to be. Now that he seems to have the health issues in check, there appears to be a good deal of optimism regarding his ability to fulfill the immense promise his physical gifts provide...

There was a story that came out during OTA's that Peterson wants to be at least a situational PR, not sure if BA was yeah or nay on the idea.
 

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Mitch, in reference to your question about the offense. As we all know keeping CP healthy is the team's top priority, and I don't think starting with a spread formation, while exciting, is the best way to ensure CP's health. Unfortunately, while BA will give 'running the football' lip service, he's a passing coach at heart. But I am hoping that his mind will overrule his heart. We have three above average blocking TE's, and some pretty good RB's, so I am hoping that we'll start by running the football. And that should open up the passing game. Our new FA, Mike Iupati, is a better (supposedly) run blocker than pass blocker. JMO.
 

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Dwight Freeney---who had over 40 QB hurries last year as a situational rusher---is still unsigned. If the Cardinals could add him and his explosiveness to the mix---imagine what that could do for the pass rush.
I would like us to try to sign him.
 

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