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Unless Levi is re-signed before he becomes a free agent he is gone. Levi should have never been put at LT. That was a huge mistake. He finally was playing very well as a RT and then was moved. I still say we have an idiot for an O-line coach. There is a reason why nobody offered Russ Grimm a head coaching gig. I just wish anyone would offer him anything to get out of Arizona.
 

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Unless Levi is re-signed before he becomes a free agent he is gone. Levi should have never been put at LT. That was a huge mistake. He finally was playing very well as a RT and then was moved. I still say we have an idiot for an O-line coach. There is a reason why nobody offered Russ Grimm a head coaching gig. I just wish anyone would offer him anything to get out of Arizona.

.... and there just may be a reason he's paid $1.5M a year as an O-line Coach, that you may not fathom. ;)
 

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I thought Levi looked much better this year than in previous years, especially when he was blocking for anyone other than Kolb. We'll probably have to overpay to keep him but the alternative is downright disgusting.

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It really is baffeling to me that people are OK with LB leaving. Look, he is no Orlando Pace, but he is a legit starting LT in the league. When you consider his possible replacement (see draft pick) and the impact a new LT will have on the continuity of this Oline, its really going to be a bad loss.

Sometimes the grass isnt always greener and I think this is one of those cases. Pay Levi, because once he hits FA he is not coming back. Someone will show him the money.
 

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I wonder what tubby high school tackle the Cards will reach for in the 1st to replace Jonathan Martin when they dump his underachieving butt in 5 years.
 

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The Bleacher Report is essentially a discussion forum. Those guys get paid to write about football exactly as much as I do. They're probably less qualified than I am to do so, and my qualifications are extremely limited.

That being said, you saying that Levi Brown is the Jamarcus Russell of LTs just shows how little you know about the situation, or how easily you're willing to exaggerate your point. Levi Brown has been better than Robert Gallery.

Jason Smith is the Jamarcus Russell of LTs. Chris Williams is the Jamarcus Russell of LTs.

I get that it's super-frustrating to see Levi Brown be awful to begin the season year after year, but every year he's improved as the season went on. But he's still a legitimate starting offensive lineman in the NFL, and that's more than what you can say about all but two of the other players in this free agent class.
what makes you say he's a legitimate starting LT? Yes, it was an exaggeration to say he's the Jamarcus of LTs. Levi isn't a complete moron off the field too. I wish Levi Brown was good, he has been healthy his whole career, stays out of trouble, and seems to have a decent attitude. But you don't hire somebody just because they show up to work on time and have a good attitude if they can't do the job
 

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what makes you say he's a legitimate starting LT? Yes, it was an exaggeration to say he's the Jamarcus of LTs. Levi isn't a complete moron off the field too. I wish Levi Brown was good, he has been healthy his whole career, stays out of trouble, and seems to have a decent attitude. But you don't hire somebody just because they show up to work on time and have a good attitude if they can't do the job

He was a pro bowl alternate at RT in 2009.
 

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He was a pro bowl alternate at RT in 2009.

While I am on the "Levi is not as bad as people say" side, I will point out that D-Rock Andersuck was a pro bowl alternate once, and he is the worst of the worst.
 

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so was DRC. Now he's not even starting

All I'm saying is put him back on the right side where he can be a good RT. Going into the draft with no starting tackles is a recipe for failure.
 

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It really is baffeling to me that people are OK with LB leaving. Look, he is no Orlando Pace, but he is a legit starting LT in the league. When you consider his possible replacement (see draft pick) and the impact a new LT will have on the continuity of this Oline, its really going to be a bad loss.

Sometimes the grass isnt always greener and I think this is one of those cases. Pay Levi, because once he hits FA he is not coming back. Someone will show him the money.

It all comes down to money. Brown's agent already has an idea what he would command in free agency. It is probably more than what the Cardinals think he's worth, and they've seen him up close and personal for several seasons. The Cowboys overpaid for Leonard Davis in my opinion. Some other team will do the same for Levi. He isn't a core player, so the Cardinals aren't going to break the bank to keep him.

Nothing baffling about it to me, it is just dollars and cents and the value placed on a player. Rod Graves said as much at the combine.
 

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It all comes down to money. Brown's agent already has an idea what he would command in free agency. It is probably more than what the Cardinals think he's worth, and they've seen him up close and personal for several seasons. The Cowboys overpaid for Leonard Davis in my opinion. Some other team will do the same for Levi. He isn't a core player, so the Cardinals aren't going to break the bank to keep him.

Nothing baffling about it to me, it is just dollars and cents and the value placed on a player. Rod Graves said as much at the combine.

I agree with this but I wouldn't be surprised if the Cards matched any other offer.
 

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what makes you say he's a legitimate starting LT? Yes, it was an exaggeration to say he's the Jamarcus of LTs. Levi isn't a complete moron off the field too. I wish Levi Brown was good, he has been healthy his whole career, stays out of trouble, and seems to have a decent attitude. But you don't hire somebody just because they show up to work on time and have a good attitude if they can't do the job

Well, there are people with millions to invest who believe he can do the job.
 

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All I'm saying is put him back on the right side where he can be a good RT. Going into the draft with no starting tackles is a recipe for failure.
going into the season with the worst OT duo in the NFL is a bigger recipe for disaster. A lot needs to be addressed on offense before SF needs to check for us in their rearview right now sadly. The OT positions are the most pressing IMO
 

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It really is baffeling to me that people are OK with LB leaving. Look, he is no Orlando Pace, but he is a legit starting LT in the league. When you consider his possible replacement (see draft pick) and the impact a new LT will have on the continuity of this Oline, its really going to be a bad loss.

Sometimes the grass isnt always greener and I think this is one of those cases. Pay Levi, because once he hits FA he is not coming back. Someone will show him the money.

Do you really believe #75 is worth more than $5 mil/yr? Showing him the money doesn't mean he's a better than average OT. He simply has no reason so sign with us for that rate when everyone knows he's probably going to get $7-8 mil. Average player who deserves average wages.

He's going to get more in the open market...so see ya!!! Cut your loses & don't reach for an average player...again.
 

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going into the season with the worst OT duo in the NFL is a bigger recipe for disaster. A lot needs to be addressed on offense before SF needs to check for us in their rearview right now sadly. The OT positions are the most pressing IMO

Okay... so let's keep Levi Brown in-house and improve the other tackle position. I'd rather keep Levi Brown at $8 million per year than Brandon Keith at the veteran minimum plus a $3 million signing bonus.

Otherwise, you're hoping that you can improve in TWO positions through free agency and the draft, as well as adding on at WR, holding on to Richard Marshall or getting another cornerback, and adding more pieces at OLB.

That's a tall bill for any front office, much less this one.
 

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Do you really believe #75 is worth more than $5 mil/yr? Showing him the money doesn't mean he's a better than average OT. He simply has no reason so sign with us for that rate when everyone knows he's probably going to get $7-8 mil. Average player who deserves average wages.

He's going to get more in the open market...so see ya!!! Cut your loses & don't reach for an average player...again.

So... you're willing to go in to the 2012 football season with D'Anthony Bapiste at starting left tackle because you can then send Levi Brown a message that he's "not worth" the $7-8 million per year that he'll get on the open market?

How does that make sense?
 

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